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Topic: Sony's depraved promotion stunt with decapitated goat (Read 10344 times)
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Xerapis
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Korean markets are better.
You can see the dogs hanging up on hooks instead :D
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..I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to...smell dark matter...and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me...
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Azazel
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I'm no goat-lover, or worse, PETA-lover, but I do find this particular publicity stunt fairly retarded. And I say this with complete confidence in myself, as both a carnivore who visits the supermarkets and butchers for my meat and as one who has actually gone out and shot animals, gutted them and eaten them afterwards.
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stray
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I'd agree that it's a "dumb" thing to do -- simply because Sony should know by now that the world is full of whiny bitches who are looking for anything to catch them on.
I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though -- I don't even know the story here. And neither do you. All we do know is that they themselves did not kill the goat. And that the entertainment industry in general has a history of using animals who've died of natural causes when they set them up as props like this (at least for the last 30 years it's been the case -- maybe Sony broke tradition, and got a butcher to kill a goat for the sole purpose of displaying it at a God of War II party.... But that's very unlikely).
Now, you can try to argue that just using a dead carcass is "animal cruelty" -- but you would lose that argument in the end. And besides that, you wouldn't even have the right to make that argument in the first place unless you ran or worked at Pet Fucking Cemetary, and actually do care about honoring the carcasses of animals in the general sense.
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Roac
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I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though Killing for entertainment is so civillized.
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-Roac King of Ravens
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Triforcer
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FYI: as funny as it is to some to mock conservatives when they see OMG ONE BOOB- it is equally funny for me to see people worked into a lather about one dead goat. Each side has their ridiculous hangups, I guess 
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stray
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I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though Killing for entertainment is so civillized. You are extremely self absorbed to even remotely consider that reply is applicable to anything I said. You need to read my post again. And then again.
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Roac
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You are extremely self absorbed to even remotely consider that reply is applicable to anything I said. You need to read my post again. And then again.
I could similarly suggest you reread the news article a half dozen times. My response was applicable to you. You just don't want it to be, and that's fine.
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-Roac King of Ravens
"Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don't learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us." -SC
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stray
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You are extremely self absorbed to even remotely consider that reply is applicable to anything I said. You need to read my post again. And then again.
I could similarly suggest you reread the news article a half dozen times. My response was applicable to you. You just don't want it to be, and that's fine. Don't play with me. You snipped the biggest part of my sentence in that quote JUST TO CONVENIENTLY TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT, and now you act like your post was the valid one? Not only do you not read, but what you do read, you disregard for your own selfish purposes. And then to top it off, you try to make me look like the one trying to distort things. Boy, you're nothing but a scoundrel. I don't need to read the article again because everything about my post was referencing the events as they were portrayed in that article. You, on the other hand, made references to this being about "killing for entertainment" -- and that has nothing to do with what took place in the article. Even worse, you tried to make MY POST about that. And I didn't state one opinion, either way, about whether I think "killing for entertainment" is cruel and barbaric or not. Your post was irrelevant to mine. And that's why you need to fucking read. My comment was this: I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though -- I don't even know the story here. Or in other words, I'm saying I can't comment either way -- so long as the story portrayed in that article is what I have to work with here. After that, I went on to explain the unlikeliness of Sony actually butchering a goat for a God of War party -- or even hiring someone to do it. I further opined that displaying an animal carcass is not the same thing as animal cruelty. All of these things sum up my post. If you want to comment on them fine -- but don't try to make up shit about me. Further, don't try to make me look like I've wronged you for not going along with the bullshit you made up about me.
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Roac
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I don't need to read the article again because everything about my post was referencing the events as they were portrayed in that article. You, on the other hand, made references to this being about "killing for entertainment" -- and that has nothing to do with what took place in the article. It's advertising for a game. Entertainment. My comment was this: I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though -- I don't even know the story here. You read the story and don't know the story. I'd again suggest you read it once more. And for what it's worth, my one line comment *was* with respect to what they mentioned in the article, which was nutty stupid on Sony's part. If you want to comment on them fine -- but don't try to make up shit about me. Further, don't try to make me look like I've wronged you for not going along with the bullshit you made up about me. I neither feel wronged, nor made up bullshit about you. I made one sarcastic comment. Sandy vaginas indeed.
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-Roac King of Ravens
"Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don't learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us." -SC
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stray
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nor made up bullshit about you. I made one sarcastic comment. Sandy vaginas indeed.
You misquoted me, projected a completely different point upon me than what I really said, and then keep on insisting that I'm the one misreading things. That's not sarcasm. That's just you being the rotten, selfish, contentious prick that you are. And not only are you rotten, but you're a coward too. You can't even embrace your rotten ways correctly. I'd almost be content with that. Instead, you have to try to cover it up, grasping for some way to save face here, by saying it was just "sarcasm". "Hee hee ha ha -- Look at me, Roac, the funny sarcastic guy. Look at Stray taking things too seriously. Hee hee ha ha. Sandy vaginas indeed." No.
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ajax34i
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You know, if you add "and boobs" to the title, this thread's view count will hit the thousands.
It was a stupid idea, in my opinion, to do this kind of event, both because of the goat and the nudity.
Shrug, I don't care. Moving on.
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Strazos
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Was I the only one who thought the girl in the PETA video had funny-looking hips or something?
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Hoax
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She used to be much heavier then she was during that video hence the odd hip shape I would guess.
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Calantus
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All I have to add is that I'd be pretty turned off by a dead goat lying on the table. Call me crazy, but it's just not really something I want to see at a party. The topless women are fine, however.
And people pulling offal out of the goat to eat? Yeah, I'll be in the other room where people are drawing on chalkboards with rusty nails.
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Roac
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Instead, you have to try to cover it up, grasping for some way to save face here, by saying it was just "sarcasm". Yes, because out of all the posters here, I consistantly feel a need to cover up my feelings on any given subject out of shame for expressing them. It was sarcasm. So was my last sentence, since your sensors seem broken. Sorry that you went apeshit over it, but it is what it is.
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-Roac King of Ravens
"Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don't learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us." -SC
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Gutboy Barrelhouse
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The Sony spokesman said the animal had not been slaughtered for the event but had been bought from a local butcher by the Greek company hired to stage the event.
The firm refused to say how the goat died. It is unusual for animals in modern Greece to be killed by having their throats cut, let alone by being decapitated.
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Rithrin
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I'm far too much of a germaphobe to be in the same room as a dead goat, but I like to go by the rule where people get to do whatever they find fun at their parties because I want to be able to do whatever I want at my own party (As long as either is legal, obviously).
Topless ladies feeding the guests grapes, though? Why don't we do this more often?
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Nebu
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I just love that people get more worked up over this crap than they do about Darfur or East Timor.
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stray
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[EDIT] My bad. Nevermind.  Postcount ++
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2007, 01:39:38 PM by Stray »
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NiX
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The firm refused to say how the goat died. It is unusual for animals in modern Greece to be killed by having their throats cut, let alone by being decapitated.
Doesn't it say somewhere that the goat was still warm? I don't care much about animals being killed, but I'm sure Sony could of done something more tasteful. Like had a man dress up as a minotaur, have Kratos battle him in front of everyone, pin him to the ground and stab him in the mouth with the Blades of Athena. Then in an attempt to further WOW the audience the minotaur man could get up screaming in pain and spray blood from the mouth by the gallons. Heck, even have Kratos decapitate him for shits and giggles. Maybe even throat fuck him right after. I should work for Sony's marketing department.
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