Game Collection Idea

[schild]

So. Since people ask from time to time for recommendations from me (read: constantly), I figured I'd make some spreadsheets. I started with the PSP because it was the most recent request (like earlier tonight - and I was bored). This is what came out:

http://www.f13.net/collections/schild/psp.html

I made it with Open Office (newest version, version number: whatever), and I liked the HTML output. Anyway, here's what I figured.

1. Limited space for comments. Keeps things brief and visceral.
2. 1-10 score, no decimal points, scored in a vacuum UNLESS

• There is a version available on another system.
• There is a direct sequel.
• There are other games that are easily - read: VERY EASILY - compared to it
• I.E. Ridge Racer can not, in any way, be compared to Spectral Souls or Mega Man: Powered Up, etc

3. Dev house matters and deserves recognition.
4. IGN's collection shit is too ugly.

Now, what I was thinking is - would anyone else be interested in doing the same with their collections? It really puts some perspective on shit once you list everything. I figured we'd make a static page for it, and have the templates available for download. I'm sure there's other stuff that could be added to the templates to provide more information, but it would be neat to be able to compare and contrast thoughts. Would probably open up to a lot new conversation as well.

Anyway, discuss.

[Tebonas]

It sounds like fun, but I refrained from becoming a teacher because I hate rating things. With a vengerance. So i'm just looking forward to other peoples spreadsheets.

[schild]

That was the other thing. The real reason I have scores is because I want truly awful games to be recognized as that. I'm almost tempted to just give games an emoticon scale to express proper rage for Spectral souls.

[stray]

Powered Up is that good, eh?

[schild]

Yes.

[Yegolev]

I'm on board.  I love making lists and labeling things.  I'm like a slovenly Monk that doesn't solve crime... so nothing like Monk, I guess.  It is most likely AHDH instead of OCD, but you play the cards you are dealt.

[stray]

I'll make a PS3 one. I'm too lazy for listing PS2 games (don't have all the ones I've played/owned at one time anyways).

[Strazos]

I could go for something like this. It would give me a great excuse to properly compile every game I currently own into one discrete space.


But please explain what you mean by "Scored in a Vacuum," and what would violate that method.

[schild]

I really didn't compare games in a genre or subset unless they fell under port, sequel, or direct ripoff. While it would be easy to compare Valhalla Knights and Monster Hunter, I didn't - just because I can, doesn't mean I should.

I've already got my DS list compiled at home, and will probably get to PS2 tonight.

[stray]

Can we rate King of Fighters against Street Fighter? Or better yet, Virtua Fighter? 

[schild]

No.

[NiX]

I guess by collection you mean games you currently own. I've had an ass load of games, I just don't keep them around.

[schild]

Well start keeping track! What I'm thinking, is a page set up with usernames with a tree under each to each collection they've given to me.

It'll be a good way to see trends in taste and who knows, maybe WUA has the same taste in games as Sinij.

God, that would be awesome.

[schild]

Stray made an interesting comment. I'm going to add percent status to my spreadsheet to denote how far a game is from completion.

[Strazos]

So then what do you do for stuff like Castlevania, which goes to some dumb number like 210%?

[stray]

To point out the obvious: I'm not sure how I could even list a percentage if I didn't finish a game to begin with.

[schild]

You guesstimate. I know when I'm about 50% of the way through a game. It's an amount of completion, not the actually in-game completion #.

And if you don't know, you're probably in the first 25%.

[Azazel]

Stray made an interesting comment. I'm going to add percent status to my spreadsheet to denote how far a game is from completion.

You mean how unfinished the shipped game is, or how much you have left to play through?

And what about PC titles?

[schild]

The completion amount (of the core game). I.E. Under DDS2, I would list my completion as 99% because I'm at the last boss. It'll just give people an idea of how much time you've played.

And what about PC titles?

[Azazel]

Are those listable too? And do we have a release-date limit for old stuff?


Because, you know. M.U.L.E. and stuff.

[schild]

Oh, no. No limit reallly. Just make sure it runs on modern hardware. I don't want to see Loom on that list. It may be best btw, for PC stuff, to list the year of release. With console stuff, at least when we say PS2 or Dreamcast - we know the years it was out. Yes, I think year will be necessary for PC.

(i.e. Windows 98 or later, don't need to see no early dos shit, but really ,they're your lists, up to  you. I just feel like year should be a requirement.)

Edit: Also, shareware. Lol. Don't list shareware. See, I actually BOUGHT Snood. i don't know anyone else that did. :P

[stray]

Also, shareware. Lol. Don't list shareware. See, I actually BOUGHT Snood. i don't know anyone else that did. :P

Escape Velocity yo!

[fnddf2]

Can you still submit a list if it's not that big?  I ask because I don't get to play taht many games anymore, but I think it's a cool idea and would like to contribute.

Also, what is the preferred method of contributing, email?

[schild]

I'll get some templates made tonight.

And I'll setup an email address. I'm just busy with Pokemon at the moment :)

[Azazel]

Just checked the thread again, and Stray's post above about comparing is a pretty good point - maybe KoF can't be compared to VF, but surely it can to SF?

Or you want them kept to KoF series and SF series? SF2->SFA3 is a decent stretch in sequel-land, and then there's the Capcom vs SNK and the X-Men/Marvel Super Heroes/vs Capcom clusterfuck of inbred/sequel 2d fight-em-ups.. not to mention that Fatal Fury/AoF and the whole SNK gang pretty much started as SF2 ripoffs...

[stray]

Well, many in the SNK gang were originally Capcom employees. KoF, Samurai Showdown -- both started by ex-Capcom guys. Guilty Gear -- ex-Capcom and SNK guys.

Mentioning VF is a stretch, but I find it difficult to judge the 2D stuff in a vacuum.

[schild]

KoF 98 can be compared to Kof 2003.
Street Fighter 3 Zero Upper can be compared to Street Fighter 2 Hyper Fighting.
Guilty Gear Midnight Carnival can be compared to Guilty Gear XX Accent Core.

Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper can not be compared to Kof 2003.

Why? The point is to keep it pure. And as games come out and you add and change, you don't have to putz around remembering some sort of hierarchy in fighting games. Enough releases and it turns into a mess. Or rather, I plan on keeping mind updated.

Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting are 2 seperate - and coincidentally absolutely shitty series. Much like World Heroes. Garou is the only good thing that came out of it.

KoF's flow is completely different from Streetfighter by 1998 anyway.

[schild]

Oh, and I very much wanted to get this done last night, but I played some Pokemon while lying on my bed and I have issues with not falling asleep whenever I lie down... so I passed out for 10 hours. It was pretty great.

[Azazel]

I imagine these truckers are going to need a lot of regular updating.

Or initially, at least.

Actually, comparisons are kind of moot anyway, since the comments are pretty much a 1-liner, and people will subconsciously compare them to others in the same close-genre to a degree at least. Unless a comment for KoF is "buy SFA3x32 instead" it won't really make a difference.

[schild]

It's amazing how low a score you can give games a few months after they incubate in your brain.

[stray]

Here's my PS3 list. Pretty small for now. Maybe I'll get around to a PS2 or PC one later.

Link

[schild]

Ok. Here's my DS list. Added completion rate. Stray, you might want to left align the comments, developer, and title.

First thing I'm doing after dinner is making the templates for Open Office and putting them up. I'll also provide necessary links. Probably make a stickied thread.

[stray]

Fixed it.


I guess this could be a cool little document to update from time to time..

[Moaner]

Great idea, sounds like fun.  I'm actually looking forward to doing this once I get a few days off.

I think I'm going to feel bad once I list all the games I haven't finished though.

[schild]

Heh. I'd finished more than I thought. Just wait til my PS2 list. Ugh.