VA Tech Shootings

[bhodi]

Why are you pulling out statistics!

Freshman + Booze = Stupid

Firearms + Stupid = Dead

[Train Wreck]

It might be this guy.

http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/

[schild]

Too easy. Not a chance.

[Train Wreck]

It could be a hoax, but it's still psychotic.

[schild]

The guy likes guns like I like video games.

So I'm not really one to judge.

[Train Wreck]

The guns by themselves are fine, it's coupled with his recent break-up and obvious going to pieces.

He just posted a note that he's not the shooter, anyway.

[Righ]

The guns are fine. Its the fact that he likes Fall Out Boy that's fucking psychotic.

The release of the video for Porcupine Tree's new album had unfortunate timing (about 4 hours before the first shooting).

[Fabricated]

Out of tragedy comes comedy. The Stormfront (read: White Supremacists) communty's reaction: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/virginia-tech-shooting-380981.html

[schild]

Those people are broken.

[schild]

Stormfront:

Threads: 317,400, Posts: 3,793,690, Members: 107,167, Active Members: 21,984

Face it America, we're fucked.

[Yoru]

Gun control politics debate moved to here. Carry on.

[NiX]

Gun control politics debate moved to here. Carry on.

You moved me to politics. I am slain

[Llava]

Stormfront:

Threads: 317,400, Posts: 3,793,690, Members: 107,167, Active Members: 21,984

Face it America, we're fucked.

You know, I don't think I've ever had a sudden urge to try to burn down a website before.

[Yoru]

Gun control politics debate moved to here. Carry on.

You moved me to politics. I am slain

That's what you get for quitting Eve.

[Llava]

I read some more.

Now I somehow want to trap them all inside the website before burning it down.

[stray]

You never know though. Half of those 107,000 members could have been guys like you who only wanted to post "I'll burn your website down." 

[Fabricated]

More proof our world is more fucking wacky than any fantasy world you can think of:

Scientology! : http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/sick_celebrity_cult_of_scientology_attempts_to_capitalize_on_virginia_tech_tragedy.phtml

Also, the GodHatesFags people have commented as well. They don't deserve a link, or traffic, or air however.

Seriously people, this planet is fucking looney tunes. Who needs to get lost in fiction when this planet is so goddamn insane?

[MrHat]

Was reading some rumor somewhere where the shooter was a 22-25 year old Chinese international student who's girlfriend left him for a white boy.  He snapped and put his vest on and grabbed his two semi-auto' 9mm and went to gf's dorm room.  Roommate and RA wouldn't/didn't know where she was so he shot them (diversion).  While cops were on the wrong side of campus, he went to where he thought she was studying/learning and then proceeded through a couple of classrooms, lining people up and executing them.

Rumor of course.

[stray]

It really hits you when you can put just one face on it.....Even if it is a stranger's. 

http://www.myspace.com/super_sneaky_ninja

[stray]

Students of Liviu Librescu, 76, a holocaust survivor who was an engineering science and mathematics lecturer at Virginia Tech for 20 years, sent e-mails to his wife, Marlena, telling of how he blocked the gunman's way and saved their lives, said the son, Joe.

"My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee," Joe Librescu said in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."

Link

[Azazel]

That's fucked, but also a noble way to go out at 76.

[Triforcer]

Cho Seung-Hui, according to breaking news banners on cnn.com and msnbc.com.  A Korean national, aged 23. 

[Train Wreck]

He's been identified as Seung Hui Cho, an English major from South Korea.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1

[stray]

I guess we can blame video games then.

[Train Wreck]

You can learn a lot about urban warfare and police tactics from video games, actually.  Not that I'm blaming them, but they are good training tools for psychopaths.

[Big Gulp]

Interesting that he's a foreigner, considering that he had two handguns on him.  You can't legally purchase a handgun unless you're a citizen.

[Slayerik]

"A source familiar with the investigation said the weapons found at Norris were a Walther .22-caliber semi-automatic and a 9 mm Glock -- both with the serial numbers filed off"

Well, I was right about one of the weapons anyways.

Fuckin brutal to think what those people went through that day. The myspace link posted somehow does make it feel more real.

[bhodi]

It's a shame the threads split...

[HaemishM]

Not going to get into the gun debate.

What's fucked up, besides of course that this subhuman fuck decided to take out his rage on others, is how the campus authorities and local police seemed to have handled the first shooting. The email message was not enough. The school should have been closed, locked down, classes cancelled and no one allowed in (students who were driving into class and not able to get email) until they could figure out what went on. Shit, even if it had just been the two students in the dorm who shot and killed each other, you cancel class for the psychological impact alone, the whole day of mourning thing. But instead, they let classes go on, while it appears the cops tripped over their own dicks. Maybe if those classes were canceled, less would have been hit by the second shooting.

I could certainly be wrong, but as an outside asshole observer, it seems like some serious culpability lies on the school.

[Sky]

You can't legally purchase a handgun unless you're a citizen.

And? It's not like it's difficult to find handguns, I could probably go grab an illegal gun this afternoon if I wanted to. Part of that wonderfully effective War on Drugs.

It's crucial for the safety of private citizens to be able to get CCW permits imo. Because limiting the legal availability of guns means only criminals have them, and you're fucked. Criminals don't, you know, obey the law.

Police are only good for cleaning up the crime scene.

[Raging Turtle]

If classes had been canceled, the gunman would have gone to a dorm/cafeteria/faculty offices and done the exact same thing he did in the classrooms.

It's easy to blame the police in this but everything I read makes me think they did everything by the book.  A murder like the one that started the day aren't *that* uncommon on college campuses

[Righ]

The guns are fine. Its the fact that he likes Fall Out Boy that's fucking psychotic.

The release of the video for Porcupine Tree's new album had unfortunate timing (about 4 hours before the first shooting).

Video withdrawn
 
In view of the events yesterday in Virginia, the video clip for Fear of a Blank Planet has been withdrawn until further notice.

blog post

For those wondering, the video is of a bunch of detached kids, hopped up on prescription drugs waving handguns, setting fire to cars, etc. The album is thematic and based to a large part on the description of Bret Easton Ellis' son in the semi-autobiographical novel Lunar Park. It reminded me that in 1973 Hawkwind released their single to follow up on their chart-topping Silver Machine, a track called Urban Guerrilla. No sooner had they done so, the IRA restarted its bombing campaign on central London. The BBC refused to play the single, and the record company reluctantly withdrew it.

As for not legally purchasing a handgun unless you're a citizen - since when? Is that a 9/11 thing? You certainly used to be able to as a resident alien.

[Big Gulp]

You can't legally purchase a handgun unless you're a citizen.

And? It's not like it's difficult to find handguns, I could probably go grab an illegal gun this afternoon if I wanted to. Part of that wonderfully effective War on Drugs.

It's crucial for the safety of private citizens to be able to get CCW permits imo. Because limiting the legal availability of guns means only criminals have them, and you're fucked. Criminals don't, you know, obey the law.

Police are only good for cleaning up the crime scene.

Bingo.

When I bartended I had a CCW expressly because I carried a lot of cash on me, and frequently locked up alone.  When I start tattooing professionally I'll apply for a Michigan CCW as well for the same reasons.

A guy like me who legally purchased his handgun, and jumps through the regulatory hoops is not the problem, folks.  Gun control wouldn't have stopped this asshole since his guns were illegal to begin with.  All it does is interfere with people who know what the fuck they're doing with weapons.

[Abagadro]

Interesting that he's a foreigner, considering that he had two handguns on him.  You can't legally purchase a handgun unless you're a citizen.

"One law enforcement official said Cho's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol."

[Sky]

Let me get this out of the way: I feel heartbroken for these kids that were attending class and had some asshole end their young lives. It's horrific and inexcusable and pure tragedy.

That said. I think it's odd that they are postponing the Gonzales hearing due to this. What's up with that?