Bethesda gets Fallout

[apocrypha]

Operation: Anchorage will be released for PS3 in late June, followed by the release of The Pitt and Broken Steel 4-6 weeks apart. Release dates will be forthcoming.

Bzzzzzt. Fail. 1st July today, no sign, no "forthcoming" release dates that I can find yet. Bastards!

[Azazel]

I see the Boxed-DVD editions are out, so I might us my EBGames gift card to pick up The Pitt/Anchorage tomorrow.

Has anyone else gotten these? Do they install where you fucking tell them to (ie, not the C: drive?) Can you run them just fine without using GFWL?

And are they ok to install and use if you're not max level/finished the main quest yet?

[Lantyssa]

Yes to all, though I manually installed by dumping the files into the proper directoy then selected their ESMs from the data window at launch.

[CmdrSlack]

Just finally got a chance to check out Point Lookout yesterday. Pretty nifty. Hoping that when the kid goes to bed, I can spend more than ten minutes with it and do a reasonable BIIF. From my ten or fifteen minutes played, I'm thinking that it may be more challenging if I wasn't going in with my endgame badass, but with my evil playthrough character.

[Azazel]

So I have a couple of questions about Brotherhood Outcasts, and the "reputation" system this game uses:

[CmdrSlack]

I haven't tried it, but I've never noticed long-term faction hits from killing other NPCs in the wasteland. You may loose karma...but that's it as far as I know. The psychic faction from Oblivion seems to not be in Fallout.

[Azazel]

Another question - my VATS work in melee, and when I am hidden, but they absolutely never work (as in, all to-hit options list as 0%) when the enemy is alert or in combat with me. And yes, I have enough APs for a couple of shots almost all the time - the percentage just comes up as 0%.

After reading the f13 threads, this appears to be illogically broken.. ?

[CmdrSlack]

Unless you're doing melee and out of range, or have somehow managed to unequip a weapon, I'm not sure why that would be.

[Lantyssa]

I haven't done a lot of melee since it doesn't let me target specific areas.  (I loved nothing more than stabbing people in the eyes with a ripper in the first ones.)  Occasionally I'll have what should be a clean shot with a gun give me 0% because I'm too close, or a corner that shouldn't be blocking me is.

For the faction hit, I've never had it last.  I've seen busses explode near Outcast patrols and, being blamed for it, had to defend myself from their aggression.  The main guy didn't mention it and they're still 'friendly' out in the wastes.  Be careful turning in tech with the Outcasts if you have their armor on you; kind of amusing what he says though.

[Azazel]

I'll go with illogcally broken, then.

[rattran]

I recently reinstalled this to try out Broken Steel and Point Lookout. More things seem broken with 1.6 Sneak seems to have a break just outside melee range, and the Sandman perk now wakes up the victim and lets them get a few shots off and shouts out before they die. 

Other stuff seems better, but a 2 steps forward and a drunken reel  to the side kinda patch.

[DraconianOne]

So I shouldn't have upgraded to 1.6 earlier then?

Questions about the DLC:

1. Is any of it worth getting?
2. Is any of it worth getting before completing the main game?
3. Will any of it work okay with a Steam bought version of the game?

[rattran]

So I shouldn't have upgraded to 1.6 earlier then?

Questions about the DLC:

1. Is any of it worth getting?
2. Is any of it worth getting before completing the main game?
3. Will any of it work okay with a Steam bought version of the game?

I've only tried Broken Steel and Point Lookout. Broken Steel expands the game to 30 levels, and makes play continue after finishing the main plot, adding a fairly large main-plot questline. I feel it's worth $10/800 microsoft funny money points. Point Lookout adds a separate land mass (can't bring any sidekicks) With a few short plotlines, and some really tough stereotype hillbilly-mobs. Like someone stole character design right out of Redneck Rampage. It feels very separate, and I think doesn't really add anything to the game. Sure, another couple hours of play, but unless you've exhausted all the out of the way places on the regular map, doesn't seem worth $10/800 blah blah

No idea how well they work with steam, gfwl is annoying, but does seem to work. Just had to restart the game after purchasing/downloading/installing each one.

[Lantyssa]

If you like power armor, the Alaska one lets you learn how to use it before you can in the main plotline.  It has a few neat toys, but I wouldn't say it adds all that much.  Broken Steel probably adds the most since it adds levels and items that can be found in the main world in addition to its continuation of the main plot.

[NiX]

I recently reinstalled this to try out Broken Steel and Point Lookout. More things seem broken with 1.6 Sneak seems to have a break just outside melee range, and the Sandman perk now wakes up the victim and lets them get a few shots off and shouts out before they die. 

Other stuff seems better, but a 2 steps forward and a drunken reel  to the side kinda patch.

Funny, it says the patch was only for adding achievements to Point Lookout.

[rattran]

I recently reinstalled this to try out Broken Steel and Point Lookout. More things seem broken with 1.6 Sneak seems to have a break just outside melee range, and the Sandman perk now wakes up the victim and lets them get a few shots off and shouts out before they die. 

Other stuff seems better, but a 2 steps forward and a drunken reel  to the side kinda patch.

Funny, it says the patch was only for adding achievements to Point Lookout.

I didn't play much with 1.5 so the Sandman thing may be from then. It could also be an artifact of either BS or PL. Or the patch note could simply be full of LIES!

[Trippy]

3. Will any of it work okay with a Steam bought version of the game?

It's supposed to, though I haven't tried it myself. Basically you have to copy/install the DLC files into the Fallout 3 directory that's under your Steam directory (e.g. C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\fallout 3)

[Lantyssa]

As I said, yes.

[Hawkbit]

I was rooting around IGN yesterday and noticed they had an October release of F3 with all the DLC included in a GOTY version on PS3. 

IGN information is generally correct about 50% of the time, so take it for what it is.  I'll buy it though for my PS3 if it's true. 

[NiX]

I didn't play much with 1.5 so the Sandman thing may be from then. It could also be an artifact of either BS or PL. Or the patch note could simply be full of LIES!

Don't take that as me saying you're wrong. It's BethSoft after all. I just think it's impressive if they broke that stuff in an achievement patch.

[Trippy]

I was rooting around IGN yesterday and noticed they had an October release of F3 with all the DLC included in a GOTY version on PS3. 

IGN information is generally correct about 50% of the time, so take it for what it is.  I'll buy it though for my PS3 if it's true. 

Bethesda announced the GOTY edition last year for release October of this year. Hence the reason why you can preorder a copy from places like Amazon.

[Venkman]

Wow, a Fallout movie!!.

Or, well, everything except the Fallout name anyway.

[apocrypha]

I hate the Apple trailer site, I can't get anything to download from it, only stream really slowly :(

In other news the DLC has started to appear for the PS3. Broken Steel out so far and trailers for the rest up now. From what you folks have said already Broken Steel is the only one really worth getting yeah?

[Azazel]

The Pitt isn't bad per se, but you will want to kill everyone in it.

Anchorage is pretty crap. Only good if you want a game-breaking stealth suit that lets you cloak anywhere in plain view (Think Predator, only more effective).

Haven't started in on Broken Steel yet (it starts after the main quest), nor have I done Pt Lookout.

[Bunk]

I found the Pitt to be interesting if you take your time and don't plow through the primary quest. If you ignore the side stuff, you can finish the main in probably two hours, which probably is why there were so many complaints about it's length. I also think it looks more interesting to do with mid/low level character.

[Sky]

Two "DLC" boxes at walmart for $20 each. We need a cow milking emoticon, Signe.

[Hawkbit]

Especially when GOTY versions are right around the corner, supposedly.

[raydeen]

Especially when GOTY versions are right around the corner, supposedly.

10/13 according to GameStop. And ironically, 1 day after Fallen Earth's new release date of 10/12. Lotsa post apocalyptic goodness this month. I think I won't be waiting for FF though and just getting it via Steam. It'll be my first digital purchase. Someone hold me. I'm scared.

Edit: I think I was bleary-eyed and got the FE date wrong. It's 10/1/2009. Not that it matters.

[Lantyssa]

It's okay.  Embrace the bits.  Let them spill upon your storage media in a torrent of bliss.  Soon its words will be assembled into new patterns of digital greatness.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of sillicon, I will fear no retailer: for thou art with me; thy RAM and thy stdio.h they comfort me.

[apocrypha]

It's okay.  Embrace the bits.  Let them spill upon your storage media in a torrent of bliss.  Soon its words will be assembled into new patterns of digital greatness.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of sillicon, I will fear no retailer: for thou art with me; thy RAM and thy stdio.h they comfort me.

In other news, Broken Steel on the PS3 is, well... broken    Lockups, refusal to load, followers broken, bugtastic. I'm so surprised.

[Azazel]

In equally-bizarre news, VATS, which has been broken since day 1 on my PC copy, now works with the addition of the Broken Steel/Point Lookout DLC and associated patch.

 

[fuser]

Arise!

FutureShop has the GOTY PS3/360 on sale for $29.99  (can still pricematch at bestbuy canada and get it down to like $26 before taxes).

[Venkman]

New trailer up for Fallout: New Vegas.

Direct link to movie

[Hawkbit]

I've had an itch to play F3 with all the DLC lately.  I was originally looking at PS3 so I could lounge around, but I'm reading that lots of people can't get the game to work with the DLC.  Anyone have experience with this?

Lots and lots of threads say that once the save game file reaches 8+mb it starts freezing.   

[veredus]

If you can I would go PC just so you can use mods.