Bethesda gets Fallout

[bhodi]

It won't.  I posted like a tard last night because I was pissed off. 

Well, I won't be getting it legally. I use daemon tools on a daily basis I'm NOT doing system changes to play a game. Oh well.

[stray]

Any real benefit to getting a PC version anyways? Why not just go console? It's not like it's really a shooter.

[schild]

When I launch it from Steam, the Steam overlay doesn't work. How strange.

[Rasix]

Any real benefit to getting a PC version anyways? Why not just go console? It's not like it's really a shooter.

Close enough.  It has locational damage that depends on your aim.  I'm somewhat poor at thumbsticking.

Plus, you know, modding.

[bhodi]

Any real benefit to getting a PC version anyways? Why not just go console? It's not like it's really a shooter.

Visually it's better if you have a good PC, and I very VERY much prefer keyboard and mouse to thumbpad on console for first person anthing.

Plus, hopefully they'll release the modding programs and again PC will have the edge there. By this time next year I bet that fallout will be much more fun to play than out of the box, just like oblivion (apparently) was, just by including a few of the most popular mods.

:shakes fist at rasix for being first:

[schild]

If the game was all third person, I probably would've gotten the PS3 version. As it stands, third person is totally fucking beyond clownshoes. There's just no reason to not get the PC version really. 50% of the time you're actually aiming, mouse still > all, and I'm pretty damn good with a thumbstick.

[Rasix]

If the game was all third person, I probably would've gotten the PS3 version. As it stands, third person is totally fucking beyond clownshoes.

Yah, it's the same Oblivion third person.  Very, very clunky and not at all functional. Kind of a shame they really didn't make a bigger effort on this.

[Engels]

OMFG ROOTKITS!!1!one!

Would this also be the case with steam?

Has anyone answered this one yet?

[stray]

If the game was all third person, I probably would've gotten the PS3 version. As it stands, third person is totally fucking beyond clownshoes. There's just no reason to not get the PC version really. 50% of the time you're actually aiming, mouse still > all, and I'm pretty damn good with a thumbstick.

Fair enough. These drm issues just sounded like a headache, so i was asking.. I only have the ps3 version simply because I don't have a decent gaming PC (or the desire for one anymore, really). Seems OK so far. And graphically, not so bad.

One weird bug though: It freezes every time someone logs on to PSN (when the name pops up on the top right corner). It goes back to the normal once the name is gone.

[Rasix]

OMFG ROOTKITS!!1!one!

Would this also be the case with steam?

Has anyone answered this one yet?

All I've seen is unofficial comments posted on various sites.  All confer that the Steam version has no DRM. Well... other than Steam itsef.

[schild]

I just ran it, there's no DRM running in the background I can find. Still can't make the Steam Overlay work though.

[Morfiend]

I just ran it, there's no DRM running in the background I can find. Still can't make the Steam Overlay work though.

Is that the ingame chat thingie? If so, I have never managed to make it work with any Steam game. Shame really, its a great idea.

[Rasix]

Seems to work just fine for me.  I had to disable it in other games like VTM Bloodlines, where it would crash me. 

[schild]

[slog]

Is there anything going on with the Mine at Springfield elementary school?  I cleared it, but couldn't figure out if I should be doing something else...

[Morfiend]

I am doing the first round of side quests out of Megaton, and I am having HUGE problems with ammo. I am finding I have to run from most of the harder mobs, just to conserve. Any ideas?

[Rasix]

I am doing the first round of side quests out of Megaton, and I am having HUGE problems with ammo. I am finding I have to run from most of the harder mobs, just to conserve. Any ideas?

Blood lines quest will be very difficult right off the bat.  I'd suggest not doing that one initially.  It will take you to some tough areas. 

Doing the first set or two of quests of the survival line (Moira at Craterside supply)  should net you into some areas where you can scrounge up a decent amount of ammo/guns/caps.

Choosing the good path regarding the bomb in Megaton can net you with a nice weapon and some ammo. You can do this very early on.

[kildorn]

Assault rifle ammo was sparse for me in the beginning.

What I found was following the shopkeeper's quests gave me GREAT weapons and tons of ammo for them, as well as taking out raiders for 10mm and hunting rifles (sell all the rifles you don't need to repair with, use the profit to buy ammo for the rifle)

[Ingmar]

The SMG will blow through your ammo like crazy too, which is too bad. I find I have to spend way too many bullets on mirelurks and radscorpions at the moment. It makes me :(.

[Big Gulp]

The SMG will blow through your ammo like crazy too, which is too bad. I find I have to spend way too many bullets on mirelurks and radscorpions at the moment. It makes me :(.

The scoped .44 is currently my favorite weapon.  Of course, .44 ammo isn't very common, so I'm usually stuck with the Chinese assault rifle.

[Morfiend]

I am doing the first round of side quests out of Megaton, and I am having HUGE problems with ammo. I am finding I have to run from most of the harder mobs, just to conserve. Any ideas?

Blood lines quest will be very difficult right off the bat.  I'd suggest not doing that one initially.  It will take you to some tough areas. 

Doing the first set or two of quests of the survival line (Moira at Craterside supply)  should net you into some areas where you can scrounge up a decent amount of ammo/guns/caps.

Choosing the good path regarding the bomb in Megaton can net you with a nice weapon and some ammo. You can do this very early on.

Ahh, ok, I was doing the Bloodlines. And I seem to have blown through most of my ammo I got from megaton already trying to do that quest. Damn.

[Rasix]

Well, the tough things with that quest are the mirelurk (shoot them in the face, hunting rifle to start will help), radscorpion (eat through ammo), and some of the more difficult random enounters you get in the area.  Not to mention the way to Aeifu (sp) isn't really a walk in the park.

It's just tough quest to try first thing.   The very first quest in the survival line should get you back on track with ammo as long as you can take down some raiders.

[Signe]

What a buggy piece of shit, fun or no.  Incompetence still runs amok at Bethesda.  Geez.  They should fuck off.  I want to kick their asses.  I hope they get some really nasty itchy rashy oozy crotch disease.

[schild]

What a buggy piece of shit, fun or no.  Incompetence still runs amok at Bethesda.  Geez.  They should fuck off.  I want to kick their asses.  I hope they get some really nasty itchy rashy oozy crotch disease.

Nowhere NEAR as buggy as Fable.

[Signe]

Maybe Fable 2 won't be so buggy by the time it's out for the PC.  I am kidding myself, aren't I?  HAHA?   

My wish for them to stink and scratch stands.  I'm so sad. 

[Ingmar]

What a buggy piece of shit, fun or no.  Incompetence still runs amok at Bethesda.  Geez.  They should fuck off.  I want to kick their asses.  I hope they get some really nasty itchy rashy oozy crotch disease.

The only bug I've hit is one where after playing it for a while, it goes all SUPER LAG GAME HANG when I enter VATS. It is a pretty damn annoying bug.

[Riggswolfe]

I'm playing it. Having a blast. I'm going to restart because I chose a path in the Survivalist quest that screwed me out of a bunch of xps and a perk.

Nowhere NEAR as buggy as Fable.

No shit. I almost quit Fable 2 because it was so buggy.

[Venkman]

I've had a problem with ammo too. Learned quick to stay away from the Chinese Assault rifle. I love the Hunting Rifle but that ammo isn't as common. I'm usually micro-upgrading to new 10mm pistols while carrying my lead pipe. VATS really helps to cut down ammo sometimes; however, I did blow a few heads clean off with non-VATS shots.

I missed the Sunnydale school the first time around. That's a good place for ammo and general stuff to sell. I've gotten quite rich over lugging 200wgs worth of stuff to Megaton. Teleporting helps a lot.

Ammo is so bad I've considered restarting a few times, I just can't remember if the Vault had any. I haven't even found an energy weapon yet though did blow through the flamethrower right quick.

Question

Any real benefit to getting a PC version anyways? Why not just go console? It's not like it's really a shooter.

For me it's because I don't have an X360 at home, and even if I did I prefer my first-person games on PC (third person as delivered here is useless as far as I'm concerned). The graphics are higher resolution just by virtue of sitting 18" away from a 24" monitor

[Big Gulp]

For me it's because I don't have an X360 at home, and even if I did I prefer my first-person games on PC (third person as delivered here is useless as far as I'm concerned). The graphics are higher resolution just by virtue of sitting 18" away from a 24" monitor

One thing I've noticed is how bad the textures are, even with everything turned up to max.  I just don't remember Oblivion even having terrain textures this bad.  Grass in particular looks really bad.

Hopefully some modder will introduce a higher texture pack like they did for Oblivion.

[Rasix]

I missed the Sunnydale school the first time around. That's a good place for ammo and general stuff to sell. I've gotten quite rich over lugging 200wgs worth of stuff to Megaton. Teleporting helps a lot.

Ammo is so bad I've considered restarting a few times, I just can't remember if the Vault had any. I haven't even found an energy weapon yet though did blow through the flamethrower right quick.

Plenty of laser pistols & ammo at the first survivalist line quest.

As to your spoiler.. uh, at the very start of the game: no, you don't need to (non aggro), just the guard.  If you're talking about some late game event.. damn you. 

[Big Gulp]

As to your spoiler.. uh, at the very start of the game: no, you don't need to (non aggro), just the guard.  If you're talking about some late game event.. damn you. 

Damn it!  Yeah, his was the first head explosion I witnessed in the game.  I figure after I did that I probably closed down some storylines with my little girlfriend, there.  Ce la vie.

[Rasix]

Bleh, it's a first hour spoiler if Darniaq is talking about the same thing we are.  I just figured I'd be polite and not kill him unless he took a swing first.

[Venkman]

Yea it was the early one. I'm only 9 hours into the game and I've been taking my sweet a$$ time doing stuff.

[Rasix]

Yea it was the early one. I'm only 9 hours into the game and I've been taking my sweet a$$ time doing stuff.

Same.  I'm not very far into the main plot at all.  This is turning out so far more like Morrowind than Oblivion as the side stuff is so interesting I have almost zero interest in advancing the plot.

[kildorn]

As to your spoiler.. uh, at the very start of the game: no, you don't need to (non aggro), just the guard.  If you're talking about some late game event.. damn you. 

Damn it!  Yeah, his was the first head explosion I witnessed in the game.  I figure after I did that I probably closed down some storylines with my little girlfriend, there.  Ce la vie.

I accidentally hit him during a VATS assault on the other dude, which screwed me. At which point I went "enh, if the bitch wants some.."