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Lantyssa
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Reply #700 on: October 28, 2008, 02:59:19 PM

Keeps pausing out saying "Download starting.." but it never starts. I have to Pause the download and Resume to get it going again. Pain in the ass. If you have no urge to play today, just leave it on overnight.
I told it to launch the game and I'm letting it sit on that dialog screen.  Seems to be doing better so far.

It still boggles me they couldn't let us download a majority of the game prior to today though.  Not much point to have pre-launch purchases without that.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #701 on: October 28, 2008, 03:09:06 PM

Fuck that shit. I want vampires, I'll wait for the game version of I Am Legend.


Over and out.
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Reply #702 on: October 28, 2008, 06:04:26 PM

Having beat the game, let me help clear this one up...

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Reply #703 on: October 28, 2008, 06:21:39 PM

Having beat the game, let me help clear this one up...

Wow.  Short game.
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Reply #704 on: October 28, 2008, 06:46:06 PM

Having beat the game, let me help clear this one up...

Wow.  Short game.

Pirate.

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Reply #705 on: October 28, 2008, 07:10:20 PM

Hey guys, Fallout had nutjobs who wanted to be knights of the round table and mutant ghould who had trees growing out of their head, please no more with the "omg this isn't fallout" retard fanboi-ism.

Also in interviews the bethsoft team said they didn't really think that the 'camp' aspects of Fallout 2 were really that important (or were in the original fallout '8 point list of key things' or somesuch) so they deliberatly avoided it. I wouldn't be expecting much humor in that vein.
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Reply #706 on: October 28, 2008, 07:30:54 PM

Having beat the game, let me help clear this one up...
Wow.  Short game.
Pirate.
Yeah, I've had it almost 2 weeks before release, though I will admit if I had of skipped the side missions, it really isn't that long.
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Reply #707 on: October 28, 2008, 08:21:26 PM

I'm enjoying it so far.  Yah, it seems pretty dry.  Not really bothering me though.  I like the combat, I like the setting, the UI is passable, and so far the voice acting in spots has been well done. Hearing Malcolm McDowell's voice coming out of my radio is pretty nifty.

Playing my standard small arms/speech/(some utility skill, picked repair). Chose lady killer for laughs and female murder.  I can't wait to play more.

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Reply #708 on: October 28, 2008, 09:14:09 PM

Definitely pick up the perk that gives you extra XP. All 3 levels of it. It pays back in full.
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Reply #709 on: October 28, 2008, 09:27:44 PM

Definitely pick up the perk that gives you extra XP. All 3 levels of it. It pays back in full.

Yes, I know. Other stuff seems more fun though. Heh.

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Reply #710 on: October 28, 2008, 09:52:23 PM

Just bought it on Steam. Finished the install and its telling me the game is not available. I am not amused.
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Reply #711 on: October 28, 2008, 10:00:45 PM

Geezus.  Am I the only person it's downloaded at some abysmal rate for all day?  I'm only at 65% and I started at noon.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #712 on: October 28, 2008, 10:06:34 PM

Mine's been pretty slow too (at 70% now), but that may be qwest's fault. They've been mucking with my dl speed all night. Finally called them and I'm back to 700 KB/s, but I was at ~230 KB/s most of the night.

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Reply #713 on: October 28, 2008, 10:07:05 PM

Geezus.  Am I the only person it's downloaded at some abysmal rate for all day?  I'm only at 65% and I started at noon.
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Reply #714 on: October 28, 2008, 10:24:26 PM

Made the mistake of trying to put a bullet into the back of Sheriff Lucas' head.  Now I've got the entire town agro'd on me.

Somehow I don't think you're supposed to do that.
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Reply #715 on: October 28, 2008, 11:10:08 PM

Made the mistake of trying to put a bullet into the back of Sheriff Lucas' head.  Now I've got the entire town agro'd on me.

Somehow I don't think you're supposed to do that.

Spoilers in spoilers (not that that is really a spoiler, but it's a good point to remind from). I haven't got the game yet due to being poor.
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Reply #716 on: October 29, 2008, 12:14:56 AM

Fixed my problem. Seems NOD32 decided to delete some of the files. I put Steam in exclusions and then had to check the game files and it worked. Having fun so far.
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Reply #717 on: October 29, 2008, 03:59:02 AM

Blerrrg. My main beef right now is that things are way, way too predictable. Also I killed a woman's son in front of her and she didn't seem to notice. Sigh.

At least VATS is amusing.

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Reply #718 on: October 29, 2008, 06:02:17 AM

Wait.  Did Righ just buy me an rpg that only took someone a couple of weeks to beat?  Fuck.  I told him I didn't think I wanted to play it.  I wonder if I can return it.  I'll say it's empty.   ACK!  I'm already disappointed.

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Reply #719 on: October 29, 2008, 06:35:01 AM

A person could beat Oblivion in one day if they tried hard, and ignored every single side quest. Personally, I've never completed the game.
From what I've seen early on, it's pretty obvious which quest forwards the main story. If you want the full experience, just ignore the main quest as long as possible.


I'm curious how hard or easy this will end up being. I went on a run through the wasteland to deliver something, and ended up blowing all my ammo, wearing out my gun, running out of stimpacks, and having to kill a mutant crabman with a laser I barely knew how to hold - all at level 3.

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Reply #720 on: October 29, 2008, 06:59:22 AM

I missed the whole Fallout IP craze thing that eventually led to this title. I wasn't a big fan of Oblivion and generally get board with RPGs pretty quickly. The only one I've ever finished was Ultima IV.

This one I'm loving so far though. I love the twisted reality version of everyday things. The conversation choices you make seem to matter almost right away, and the front end/introductory phase of the game is just a cool way of leading players through a tutorial. I'm only about four hours into the game, and I could probably breeze through it on the main story arc, but between Deadspace, WotLK, and a few other games coming out, this'll be a background experience I play on and off for a few months.


I also don't like the forcefit of the Xbox Live wannabe UI. I use a gamepad on a console, keyboard and mouse on PC. If I see a button on screen that says A and B, I expect to press A or B, not B for A or rolling my mouse over a button and hitting the ENTER key or the various other annoyances they put in there because they're so very dedicated to cross-promoting the Xbox Live service and upseling you to a Gold member.

Finally, I dont' like the Achievements popups. That is totally immersion breaking in an otherwise UI-lite RPG. I appreciate the purpose, but I'm not a completionist. I forgot to poke around Options to see if I could turn that noise off.
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Reply #721 on: October 29, 2008, 07:08:50 AM

Well, BFE ftw again. Gamestop had 2 whole pc copies, which were of course gone by the time I got off work (could've bought the $70 CE, wtf). I did have the joy of selling them a bunch of shitty xbox shooters my dad gave me. Went over to walmart and they had a shelf spot, but it was empty. Grabbed a telzon and checked the stock and they had none in stock, 14 on the way. Don't like to download games if I can help it, so I just saved myself $$. Played guitar instead. Win.
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Reply #722 on: October 29, 2008, 07:11:14 AM

The PC UI is pretty good. None of Oblivion's obnoxious "what's a mouse, and why would you be trying to use one on an inventory screen?" crap.

Item condition is fucking annoying at times. That is all.

The humor is still there. Either we all disagree on how funny fallout 1/2 were, or we're remembering wrong. As is, the side quests are funny, and the main quest is dark.

It follows the same logic as Fallout as far as the "why aren't you using energy weapons or a minigun, do you just want to suck?" thing.

Crashed on me last night, pretty much the only reason I got to sleep. And VATS is amazing, and feels like cheating.
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Reply #723 on: October 29, 2008, 07:31:47 AM

The novelty of VATS wore off pretty quickly for me.  It feels like a momentum killer to me; it interupts gameplay. 

But that's just me probably.
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Reply #724 on: October 29, 2008, 07:49:14 AM

The humor is still there. Either we all disagree on how funny fallout 1/2 were, or we're remembering wrong. As is, the side quests are funny, and the main quest is dark.

It follows the same logic as Fallout as far as the "why aren't you using energy weapons or a minigun, do you just want to suck?" thing.

The humor in Fallout 3 and the writing in general is a shitty homage to Fallout 2. Like they tried with every fiber of their being to write something as compelling and it just turned out surreal.

That said, I'm having a lot more fun on the PC version simply due to exploration. The world is fantastically well-built, to bad the game itself is wonk. If a speedhack appears, I'm fucking using it.
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Reply #725 on: October 29, 2008, 07:53:54 AM

For the sheer amount of motorcycles and motorcycle parts lying around, I was sure that at some point I'd get one so traveling to new locations didn't suuuuuck.
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Reply #726 on: October 29, 2008, 07:56:54 AM

The novelty of VATS wore off pretty quickly for me.  It feels like a momentum killer to me; it interupts gameplay. 

But that's just me probably.
VATS only gets more annoying if you get the perk that gibs people. I had to avoid using it in battles with packs of Super Mutants. If I did use it the one mutant with the hammer would run past the guy I gibbed and get a good couple swings in before I could take him down, but while taking him down I'd have the one with the mini-gun ripping through me. VATS clearly doesn't recognize the fact that you need to kill more than 1 person at a time.
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Reply #727 on: October 29, 2008, 07:58:12 AM

The novelty of VATS wore off pretty quickly for me.  It feels like a momentum killer to me; it interupts gameplay. 

But that's just me probably.
VATS only gets more annoying if you get the perk that gibs people. I had to avoid using it in battles with packs of Super Mutants. If I did use it the one mutant with the hammer would run past the guy I gibbed and get a good couple swings in before I could take him down, but while taking him down I'd have the one with the mini-gun ripping through me. VATS clearly doesn't recognize the fact that you need to kill more than 1 person at a time.
And even then, it's still ridiculously easy.
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Reply #728 on: October 29, 2008, 08:12:19 AM

Huh? VATS will let you string multiple targets together.

I can easily do "aim head, next target aim head, next target aim head" or simply drop back into VATS if I need to off someone and then take the guy behind him.

My main complaint with it was that it's accuracy seems to have nothing to do with your weapon accuracy. I can happily pick people off with a hunting rifle at absurd ranges, but VATS would give me a 7% chance to hit anything.
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Reply #729 on: October 29, 2008, 09:48:13 AM

Finally, I dont' like the Achievements popups. That is totally immersion breaking in an otherwise UI-lite RPG. I appreciate the purpose, but I'm not a completionist. I forgot to poke around Options to see if I could turn that noise off.

I only figured out at the end of my playtime last night I could attach this thing to my Xbox Live account. I didnt get a single achievement all night. I am in Megaton. Should I have got one by now and didn't or did they not show because I wasnt signed in to Xbox Live?

On PC btw.
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Reply #730 on: October 29, 2008, 10:03:42 AM

You should get one when you take the GOAT exam, which I keep skipping. awesome, for real
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Reply #731 on: October 29, 2008, 10:06:19 AM

There is a way to skip the whole introduction in Vault 101? Because I don't want to start a second character in fear of having to endure it again.
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Reply #732 on: October 29, 2008, 10:08:39 AM

I saved right before the first good/evil set of decisions. Mostly I just want to skip that baby bullshit as my specs will mostly be the same for the first 5 levels.
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Reply #733 on: October 29, 2008, 10:23:55 AM

You should get one when you take the GOAT exam, which I keep skipping. awesome, for real

Crap, wonder if I have to play through it again to get it. Damn you MS.
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Reply #734 on: October 29, 2008, 10:27:35 AM

Can't wait until customization comes out for the PC. Things like being able to skip the intro should get 'fixed' pretty fast.
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