Bethesda gets Fallout

[Riggswolfe]

Go watch the gameplay demo no G4.com's E3 coverage.

http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/26939/Hands_On_Fallout_3.html

You get to see gorey deaths, the pipboy, lockpicking mini-game and at around 8:00  messy death by teddy bear. That sold me right there.

[Lanei]

Go watch the gameplay demo no G4.com's E3 coverage.

http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/26939/Hands_On_Fallout_3.html

You get to see gorey deaths, the pipboy, lockpicking mini-game and at around 8:00  messy death by teddy bear. That sold me right there.

He built a rocket launcher from a woodchipper and killed someone with a teddy bear launched from it.

That is just made of awesome.

[Tebonas]

The moderators annoyed me somewhat, I guess thats what passes for hip comments for the young crowd nowadays.

But the gameplay demo was made of win indeed.

[Xerapis]

[Ironwood]

Damn, it's looking good.

[rattran]

I picked up a preorder box today for the 'Nuka Cola' bottle opener.

[Mrbloodworth]

I picked up a preorder box today for the 'Nuka Cola' bottle opener.

where?

[rattran]

Best Buy, $5 for a nifty bottle opener! And I suppose $5 off some games too.

<edit> A Picture.

[Mrbloodworth]

sweet. Thanks.

[Furiously]

Amazon is starting to look like they are charging a ton for the radio.... Think it's like $69 for the collectors at EBgames.

[Surlyboi]

It is $69 at EB, ordered it a few days ago.

[FatuousTwat]

I just saw the Tenpenny Tower video and reverse pickpocketing live hand grenades made me IRL.

[Shrike]

The ghoul's reaction to that was priceless.

And how about old man Tenpenny? Quite the party animal.

After seeing that, it's going to be hard not to hook up with Mr. Burke. Yowza.

[Ironwood]

Crab People.

Awesome.

[LK]

Played the game at PAX. VERY tight. The mixture between turn-based and action-based with their targeting system was pretty neat. Wasteland is pretty detailed and UI is good. I'm looking forward to this.

[Bunk]

Lucky you. I sat in the hour long lineup for the presentation, to which they didn't bother telling the line that all the people that were in the theater for the previous presentation where allowed to stay. As a result, 3/4 of the lineup didn't get in, and weren't told they weren't getting in until an hour later. You may want to suggest that the ywork on the logistics on that next year. (otherwise, really enjoyed the show)

[LK]

Yeah, it was recognized that that was a colossal fuck-up, amongst other things. Trust me, the guys at PAX are doing what they can to make it even better and are taking stuff like this seriously.

[justdave]

The ghoul's reaction to that was priceless.

And how about old man Tenpenny? Quite the party animal.

After seeing that, it's going to be hard not to hook up with Mr. Burke. Yowza.

Ahh, voiced by the same guy that did Lucien Lachance...He must be the resident psycho. 

While I'm one of the 1.3 people around here that liked Oblivion, I hope that they have more than the same three voice actors.

[Azazel]

UPDATE!

Fallout 3 Will Not Feature Real Drugs
Australia's drug usage alterations will carry over to all territories.
by Jimmy Thang
 US, September 10, 2008 - Bethesda Softworks has taken drug usage out of Fallout 3. This is for all territories, not just Australia. Originally, Fallout featured in-game morphine that gave characters health bonuses, but Bethesda decided to remove any ties to real world drugs after Australia's Office of Film and Literature Classification refused to classify the game with an age rating. This essentially banned the sale of the game in the entire country.

In response, Bethesda made alterations to the drug usage. While you can still "use" drugs in the game, the actual usage of it is not shown. This allowed Australia's OFLC to reclassify Fallout 3 with a Mature Audiences 15+ age rating. The board subsequently issued this statement:

The drugs depicted are fictional; drugs are depicted as stylized icons on a menu with the drug use itself not depicted. Whilst navigating a post-apocalyptic futuristic landscape, players can invoke the use of a variety of "chems" listed by fictitious names which include "Buff", "Rad-X", "Psycho" and "Ultrajet". Within the context of the game's narrative, the player may choose to make use of these "chems" to alter the physiological characteristics of their character in the game

Speaking to Edge-Online, Bethesda's Peter Hines explained why these drug edits were being made universal. "An issue was raised concerning references to real world, proscribed drugs in the game, and we subsequently removed those references and replaced them with fictional names. To avoid confusion among people in different territories, we decided to make those substitutions in all versions of the game, in all territories," Hines said.

For players unfamiliar with Bethesda's highly-anticipated action RPG, Fallout 3 puts players in a post-apocalyptic environment and forces them to fend off giant insects and super mutants. The game is set for an October 28 launch in the US, and an October 31 release in Europe/Australia.
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/909/909134p1.html

Speaking to Edge, Bethesda has explained what it calls a “misconception” regarding the classification of Fallout 3 in the Australian region. Edge has also learned that due to concerns and issues raised in the process of international classification, Fallout 3 will not contain real world drug references in any territory.

Fallout 3 was originally refused classification by the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification, citing among other reason the in-game use of “Morphine” in order to ignore limb pain. According to the Office’s guidelines, “material promoting or encouraging proscribed drug use” is refused classification.

In mid-August, the OFLC announced that a revised version of the game had been granted a rating in Australia, thanks to edits that changed the context of the in-game drug use.

While it has been assumed that these changes would only be in place in the Australian release of the game, Edge has been told by Bethesda vice president of PR and marketing Peter Hines that there will be no differences between the version that releases in Australia and the versions that will release in other territories, including Europe and the US.

Calling the idea of an Australia-specific version of the game a “misconception,” Hines told us, “We want to make sure folks understand that the Australian version of Fallout 3 is identical to both the UK and North American versions in every way, on every platform.”

He continued, “An issue was raised concerning references to real world, proscribed drugs in the game, and we subsequently removed those references and replaced them with fictional names. To avoid confusion among people in different territories, we decided to make those substitutions in all versions of the game, in all territories.”

Hines stated, “I didn't want people continuing to assume the version in Australia was some altered version when it's not.” Finally, he explained that, “There are no references to real world drugs in any version of Fallout 3.”

Bethesda has in the past described the landscape of international ratings classification as a challenge. In previous interviews, Hines has referred to the variation of rules and standards across different regions as “frustrating”.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/censors-force-fallout-3-changes

 

 



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Bumpage.

Fallout 3 refused classification (in Australia)
360 News | Hearts fall in disappointment.
In what may possibly be some of the most disappointing news for Australian gamers in recent memory, that magnum opus of post-apocalyptic gaming, Fallout 3, appears to have been refused classification by the Classification Board of Australia.

The Classification Board has yet to make it clear exactly why Fallout 3 has been refused classification. However, as the game features drug use and other potentially mature topics, it's possible that many aspects raised the concern of Australia's censors. Sadly, it appears increasingly likely that Australia will see either a censored version or quite possibly, no version at all. Games that are refused classification are not only not allowed to be advertised, they're not allowed to be sold, hired, or demonstrated at all within Australian borders.

It remains unclear as to whether the game will be made available in other PAL regions, New Zealand being a prime example. PALGN will be bringing you the latest on this issue as news breaks.
http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=12088&sid=f151234a3baca5995b9386a46a7ac848

A bit annoying, since it means I'll now have to source either the New Zealand or UK version if I decide I want to play it (aka GTA4).

More interestingly is the fact that if the OFLC has had a chance to play through it (and ban it) it means the game should be real close to going gold.

[Murgos]

And yet I've still pre-ordered the collectors edition.  Lunch Box and Bobble-Head, Mmmmm.

[Yegolev]

Damn you, Australia.

At least I should still get my lunchbox.

[Ironwood]

I don't get it.

[Sky]

Was there a depiction of syringe use? Because honestly, that was fucking awful in Bioshock and my fiancee would leave the room.

[Yegolev]

Is there any word if Fallout 3 will have something like the Construction Set that you get with TES games?  Because that will make it much easier to ignore Australia's government and the Bethesda cavemen.

[Sky]

Yegolev hates Spore but loves him some IV drug use.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

Is there any word if Fallout 3 will have something like the Construction Set that you get with TES games?  Because that will make it much easier to ignore Australia's government and the Bethesda cavemen.

I think I read on their FAQ that they didn't know or have plans for any construction sets. 

Edit:  Went back and looked, they aren't sure if an editor will be included. 

Will an editor be available?
At this time we cannot confirm whether an editor will be available for the PC version.

FAQ here.

[Yegolev]

Yegolev hates Spore but loves him some IV drug use.

 

 

[Ingmar]

Not sure why I should care, previous Fallout games used all fictional drug names and didn't show me some dude shooting up.

[Yegolev]

I took my pill and I'm no longer outraged at something stupid.  I also ate a tiny pie.  It was delicious.

[Calantus]

I'm still angry on principle.

For the record.

[Ironwood]

Not sure why I should care, previous Fallout games used all fictional drug names and didn't show me some dude shooting up.

This.  Tempest in a teacup ??

[Tebonas]

I even prefer if they take the old names. They are part of the Fallout lore.

[Sky]

MUTHAFUCKAS I NEEDS MAH CRACK PIPE BITCHES AHLL BE ALL UP IN YO LIKE YO WASSUP FOO IMA FUCK YO MAMA

Now I find I can't properly get into character. This decision kills the roleplaying potential of this game.

[Calantus]

I even prefer if they take the old names. They are part of the Fallout lore.

I agree.

I'm still angry of principle. I'm tired of the Australian review board telling me what I can play. >_<

[FatuousTwat]

MUTHAFUCKAS I NEEDS MAH CRACK PIPE BITCHES AHLL BE ALL UP IN YO LIKE YO WASSUP FOO IMA FUCK YO MAMA

Now I find I can't properly get into character. This decision kills the roleplaying potential of this game.

Roleplaying?