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Reply #245 on: June 05, 2007, 10:50:00 AM

Meh.

I wish they would answer some basic questions like 1st or 3rd person.  Turn based or real time.
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Reply #246 on: June 05, 2007, 11:04:38 AM

Yeah, but I consider myself quite teased nonetheless.
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Reply #247 on: June 05, 2007, 11:54:04 AM

Yes. Teased.

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Reply #248 on: June 05, 2007, 12:47:36 PM

ok. I retract my previous trolling, Bethesda delivered on the trailer. Now they just need to not listen to Schild. LOOK AT STARCRAFT 2 BETHESDA.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxSdbSNckTQ - youtube link for people that hate quicktime or can't stream from beth's site.

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Reply #249 on: June 05, 2007, 01:09:21 PM

I shouldn't have watched the trailer.  Now I have high hopes that they've managed to keep with the original theme and not go all goofy on it. 

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Reply #250 on: June 05, 2007, 02:04:37 PM

NMA has several items (like this and this), probably linked back when cars didn't fly and people could still get AIDS, that don't indicate neoplasmic goofies.

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Reply #251 on: June 05, 2007, 04:10:33 PM

This game was just confirmed for the 360 and PS3.

Edit: That trailer was HOT.
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Reply #252 on: June 05, 2007, 04:13:11 PM

This game was just confirmed for the 360 and PS3.

Awesome, I'll have a machine that will manage to run it without begging for mercy.

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Reply #253 on: June 05, 2007, 04:15:20 PM

This game was just confirmed for the 360 and PS3.

Awesome, I'll have a machine that will manage to run it without begging for mercy.

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Reply #254 on: June 05, 2007, 07:04:27 PM

Trailer looks nice, but it was ultimately pointless for me.

Actual Gameplay plzkmfingthx

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Reply #255 on: June 05, 2007, 07:08:12 PM

Trailer looks nice, but it was ultimately pointless for me.

Actual Gameplay plzkmfingthx

Heh, it was a teaser trailer. As far as I'm concerned, that thing captured the flavor of Fallout that I was hoping they'd capture.

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Reply #256 on: June 05, 2007, 07:17:59 PM

I refuse to get my hopes up. Refuse.

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Reply #257 on: June 06, 2007, 01:10:11 AM

This game was just confirmed for the 360 and PS3.

Fallout 3, Bioshock, Age of Conan, Shadowrun (if I ever buy it)...  if this trend continues, I may never have to bother upgrading my PC again.
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Reply #258 on: June 06, 2007, 01:28:12 AM

Trailer was great.  It shows they do grasp the style and feel of the original games, which I feel is one of the most important things to making the game fun.

And to answer a previous question, the mutant boss I was talking about was from Fallout 1 (I also had dogmeat with me when I went to fight him).  My whole approach was to fight my way through the game one bloody battle after the next, so I guess thats why I never realized you could just blow the place up without fighting the end boss, and why some of you dont know about the end boss, heh.  You get more story this way though :p.

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Reply #259 on: June 06, 2007, 06:35:36 AM

I talked to the Endboss into committing suicide after I found out that all of his mutants were sterile.

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Reply #260 on: June 06, 2007, 07:29:29 AM

This game was just confirmed for the 360 and PS3.

Awesome, I'll have a machine that will manage to run it without begging for mercy.

This is pretty much the exact same thing I thought. I'm pretty happy this game is coming to the 360.

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Reply #261 on: June 06, 2007, 08:06:47 AM

I find Oblivion to be better on PC than 360, but not by a massive amount.  If they gimp up the PC version enough then it's PS3 for me... assuming it's worth getting in the end.

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Reply #262 on: June 06, 2007, 08:17:32 AM

Doesn't this mean that it's a pretty much guaranteed first person or an actiony third person game? :(

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Reply #263 on: June 06, 2007, 08:26:32 AM

I'm the only person who fears consolitis these days?

Coming out on the PS3 and XBox was the worst news I've heard so far about the game (not hard, because they haven't announced anything, but still).



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Reply #264 on: June 06, 2007, 08:46:16 AM

I don't really see the concern with this being on a console other than possible interface issues that could come up.  Fallout's interface has pretty much always sucked. The areas in Fallout have never been very expansive at all.  Nothing about this being on a console precludes it from being third person isometric and turn based. 

You'll likely see a marked improvement over other Fallouts even with the evils of consolitis looming in the future.  My only concerns still lie with Bethsoft as the developers.  The interface may be horrible just based on how bad Oblivion's was.  Console influenced or not, that thing was wretched.  Worries that this is going to be first/third with some sort of wonky action control should be based on, well, the Elder Scrolls games being that. 

This game is going to sink or swim on Bethsoft's competency as a developer, not because they're going to put it on the 360 or PS3.

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Reply #265 on: June 06, 2007, 09:14:21 AM

I'm the only person who fears consolitis these days?

I just make an effort to play a game on the machine it was designed to be played on.  I would bet loads of money that if Forza 2 was ported to PS3, it would suck suck suck because it is so finely-tuned to the 360 controller.  You know, like how Fallout would suck if you had to move a pointer with an analog stick to pick everything, or if Stardock ported GalCiv to 360.  If the interface does not fit, you must avoid it.

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Reply #266 on: June 06, 2007, 10:42:08 AM

Although Oblivion had 3rd person I'm having trouble seeing Bethsoft make a radical departure from what they know and going to turn based strategic combat.

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Reply #267 on: June 06, 2007, 10:43:38 AM

Nothing about this being on a console precludes it from being third person isometric and turn based. 
I think the teaser looks like it was made using the in-game engine so I'm guessing it will be first person or over the shoulder third person like an FPS or oblivion.  I think the most we can hope for insofar as turn based action would be a KOTOR like system.
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Reply #268 on: June 06, 2007, 10:52:40 AM

I'm not opposed to them departing from 3rd person isometric and the AP/turn-based combat system if they can substantially improve the experience of adventuring through a vast postnuclear wasteland. However, they better damn well preserve the good parts of that system - such as the ability to shoot people in the eyes to blind them, or in the groin to cripple and stun them.

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Reply #269 on: June 06, 2007, 12:07:59 PM

I think the teaser looks like it was made using the in-game engine so I'm guessing it will be first person or over the shoulder third person like an FPS or oblivion.  I think the most we can hope for insofar as turn based action would be a KOTOR like system.

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Yes, that's in-engine (in-engine means it's done with game assets in our rendering engine, but isn't done real-time. If it was done in real-time, that'd be gameplay footage. This isn't something, for example, that was sent to some house [e.g. Blue Studios] so they could build assets and render it out, and create something for us to release [e.g. Dawn of War 40K intro cinematic]).

So... yeah. At least it'll be pretty. Too bad you wouldn't be able to make avatars that don't look like shit.

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Reply #270 on: June 06, 2007, 02:52:27 PM

God Damnit.  Now I'm excited about this bloody game.  Mother Fucker.  Damn fine teaser.

Isometric view and turn based, please?

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Reply #271 on: June 06, 2007, 05:36:13 PM

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Reply #272 on: June 06, 2007, 08:02:09 PM

God Damnit.  Now I'm excited about this bloody game.  Mother Fucker.  Damn fine teaser.

Isometric view and turn based, please?

If you mean First Person Post Apocalyptic Oblivion, then yes, isometric and turnbased. I've watched the hi-res of that video like 10x, while I'm stoked, the actual character model worries me because of well... the aforementioned Oblivion.
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Reply #273 on: June 06, 2007, 10:13:58 PM

God Damnit.  Now I'm excited about this bloody game.  Mother Fucker.  Damn fine teaser.

Isometric view and turn based, please?

If you mean First Person Post Apocalyptic Oblivion, then yes, isometric and turnbased. I've watched the hi-res of that video like 10x, while I'm stoked, the actual character model worries me because of well... the aforementioned Oblivion.

Oh, no no no. You see, now they have an excuse as to why everyone looks horribly disfigured...
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Reply #274 on: June 06, 2007, 10:17:19 PM

God Damnit.  Now I'm excited about this bloody game.  Mother Fucker.  Damn fine teaser.

Isometric view and turn based, please?

If you mean First Person Post Apocalyptic Oblivion, then yes, isometric and turnbased. I've watched the hi-res of that video like 10x, while I'm stoked, the actual character model worries me because of well... the aforementioned Oblivion.

Oh, no no no. You see, now they have an excuse as to why everyone looks horribly disfigured...

Perfectly reasonable to think that everyone in the post apocalyptic future has downs or just a badly jaundiced complexion. 

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Reply #275 on: June 07, 2007, 02:04:44 AM

They do seem to have at least grasped it. I saw a bit of their own (more serious) direction as they moved out of the bus, but it's very reminiscent of the Fallout 1 intro in style, direction and action, save for the powered-armor stormtrooper at the end.


Didn't one of the fallout intro movies have shots of the power armored troopers pacifying Canada in it? I could have sworn I remembered that. Another thing to consider is this is the East Coast, so who knows what quasi-military organization has sprung up there like BoS in California.

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Reply #276 on: June 07, 2007, 06:49:20 AM

Perfectly reasonable to think that everyone in the post apocalyptic future has downs or just a badly jaundiced complexion. 

How do you go about explaining the bloom?

OOOHHHH, radiation.  Got it.

I remember reading that LookingGlass discovered the psychic monkeys in System Shock 2 were blocking attacks with an invisible sword during early testing, since LGS was using the Dark Engine from Thief 2.  I'm sure that anecdote will never have any relevance whatsoever to Fallout 3.  It's not like Bethesda has really been working on a world-building toolkit rather than a game since TESIII began.

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Reply #277 on: June 07, 2007, 07:04:58 AM

Didn't one of the fallout intro movies have shots of the power armored troopers pacifying Canada in it?
I think that was Tactics

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Reply #278 on: June 07, 2007, 07:21:22 AM

They do seem to have at least grasped it. I saw a bit of their own (more serious) direction as they moved out of the bus, but it's very reminiscent of the Fallout 1 intro in style, direction and action, save for the powered-armor stormtrooper at the end.


Didn't one of the fallout intro movies have shots of the power armored troopers pacifying Canada in it? I could have sworn I remembered that. Another thing to consider is this is the East Coast, so who knows what quasi-military organization has sprung up there like BoS in California.
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Reply #279 on: June 07, 2007, 10:02:59 AM

Didn't one of the fallout intro movies have shots of the power armored troopers pacifying Canada in it?
I think that was Tactics

Fallout 1 intro, about 30 seconds in.

Odd that the BoS is on the East Coast now; that could indicate an adoption of the Fallout:Tactics lore, where a BoS splinter group crosses the Rockies and reach Chicago. The Tactics intro explains the origins of that group.
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