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Reply #210 on: May 22, 2007, 04:11:32 PM

No one said the art wasn't professional. It very obviously is. But it looks like it was done by someone who LOVES Fallout instead of someone who is MAKING the new Fallout.

These people need to step back and look at what Made Fallout Fallout. Instead of looking at Fallout 2 and trying to recreate the magic. Recreating the magic doesn't work, ask Disney.
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Reply #211 on: May 22, 2007, 08:49:16 PM

These people need to step back and look at what Made Fallout Fallout. Instead of looking at Fallout 2 and trying to recreate the magic. Recreating the magic doesn't work, ask Disney.

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Reply #212 on: May 23, 2007, 03:23:25 AM

No one said the art wasn't professional. It very obviously is. But it looks like it was done by someone who LOVES Fallout instead of someone who is MAKING the new Fallout.

lol schild.

Isn't that a good thing if it's an official piece?
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Reply #213 on: May 23, 2007, 06:19:04 AM

No one said the art wasn't professional. It very obviously is. But it looks like it was done by someone who LOVES Fallout instead of someone who is MAKING the new Fallout.

lol schild.

Isn't that a good thing if it's an official piece?

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Reply #214 on: May 23, 2007, 06:24:29 AM

Good God you guys have sandy vaginas and the game hasn't even shown a teaser trailer yet. You see teaser promotional art and go all beret wearing artiste on it, Jesus.

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Reply #215 on: May 23, 2007, 06:34:54 AM

It's the internet. What did you expect? Benefit of the doubt? :P

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Reply #216 on: May 23, 2007, 07:00:48 AM

It's the internet. What did you expect? Benefit of the doubt? :P

Perhaps less beret-wearing, coffee-house, bongo-beating arty derision of all things not from the magical land of acceptable media.

Heh, how the worm turns from people's assessments of other forums.

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Reply #217 on: May 23, 2007, 08:12:40 AM

The sad truth is there already was a company making the kind of fallout we all wanted, they actually tried it twice and while critics and a very loyal and small fanbase loved them it was not enough to keep said company afloat.  Fallout 3 is not going to be like fallout 1 or 2, the company who made those games failed and it would be retarded for a new company to make the same mistakes again.

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Reply #218 on: May 23, 2007, 12:23:14 PM

Threash is right and I reiterate my disappointment with this unfinished project.

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Reply #219 on: May 29, 2007, 07:54:54 AM

One week to go.

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Reply #220 on: May 29, 2007, 08:05:06 AM

That looks like DC exactly how it is now.
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Reply #221 on: May 29, 2007, 04:40:32 PM

Having not actually played Fallout (I know, I am teh heathen) this thread had convinced me to plop down £8 on Fallout collection. I will apparently be playing it sometime next week, which means I will have started to play it about the point Schild is posting about the ending to this one.

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Reply #222 on: May 29, 2007, 06:16:09 PM

You could have just watched the video wink.  It's some guy starting and finishing the game in ten minutes, he kind of exploits the battle system though.

Ironically there are similar videos of people finishing Morrowind super quickly, so Bethesda and Black Isle already have something in common.
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Reply #223 on: May 30, 2007, 04:47:03 AM

Fucking Hell.

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Reply #224 on: May 30, 2007, 05:40:51 AM

Uh, how exactly did he win that?  What did he do there at the end?  I recall having to kill a big mean mutant/robot guy at the end....

And how was he able to get infinate turns in a row when he got into combat, not giving the bad guys any way to attack him?

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Reply #225 on: May 30, 2007, 06:32:55 AM

Um, aren't you thinking of fallout 2 ?

I think he just blew up the two installations rather than fight.

Easy to win a fistfight if you blow up the building it's scheduled to happen in.

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Reply #226 on: May 30, 2007, 07:20:00 AM

Yeah he just took pickpocket/lockpicking type skills and stole what he needed to get into the bases with as little fighting as possible, then he used science to start the self destruct sequence.  My memory sucks so I don't know what boss mutant you speak of.  I don't quite remember the combat "trick" but if you started and stopped the round before the enemy's turn you could keep on start/stopping or something.

Actually there is a FAQ on it:
 Q: Can you explain the combat trick again?
 A: Use the 'A' key to start combat.  Direct your character to move as far as
   you want them to move while holding down the 'A' key.  When your
   character uses up all his Action Points, the 'A' key causes combat to
   end upon the end of his turn (when Action Points run out) and then
   starts combat up again.  In this way you can walk right past enemies
   without them ever getting their own turn to attack you.  This is
   necessary for the Military Base, and quite helpful at the Cathedral.
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Reply #227 on: May 30, 2007, 07:27:43 AM

That was cool and all but I'm not sure it counts if you don't pick up Dogmeat.

I remember the mutant boss and I am pretty sure that was Fallout 1 since I never did finish Fallout 2.  I could be wrong.

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Reply #228 on: May 30, 2007, 08:29:04 AM

Dogmeat was Fallout 2.  Pretty sure it was, anyway.

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Reply #229 on: May 30, 2007, 08:34:38 AM

Nope, I think Dogmeat was 1.

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Reply #230 on: May 30, 2007, 08:45:38 AM


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Reply #231 on: May 30, 2007, 09:42:39 AM

Here's the Morrowind speed run mentioned earlier:
http://speeddemosarchive.com/Morrowind.html

I just had to link it because it's probably the funniest way I've ever seen to beat a game. SUPER JUMP!

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Reply #232 on: May 30, 2007, 05:19:33 PM

I believe the funniest way to beat a game fast belongs to Ultima 9. The stuff required to do it is ridiculous. I remember you having to stack books and potions to use levitate to get to an island you normally wouldn't be able to get to.
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Reply #233 on: May 30, 2007, 06:04:56 PM

I believe the funniest way to beat a game fast belongs to Ultima 9. The stuff required to do it is ridiculous. I remember you having to stack books and potions to use levitate to get to an island you normally wouldn't be able to get to.

There's a glitchy one for Oblivion on Youtube, too, where the guy beats the game in something like ten minutes.  Eight or nine minutes spent getting out of the first dungeon with Captain Picard, and then he fast travels to the imperial capital, grabs a stack of paintbrushes, stacks them up high enough to climb to the top of the cathedral, falls through the roof because of a clipping glitch, and the game notices he's in the final area and starts the final event.
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Reply #234 on: May 30, 2007, 06:47:22 PM

Eh, does that really count as "beating" the game?

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Reply #235 on: June 05, 2007, 01:02:25 AM

The one they have on now is cool. But isn't the trailer supposed to be already online?

As a matter of fact I swallowed one of these about two hours ago and the explanation is that it is, in fact, my hand.
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Reply #236 on: June 05, 2007, 07:17:33 AM

The one they have on now is cool. But isn't the trailer supposed to be already online?
The server was unreachable for a while and now it is showing an old fashioned TV "Please Stand By" message.  They probably just got into work and need to get their morning coffee.

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Reply #237 on: June 05, 2007, 07:26:56 AM

That's what they had when I made my post hours ago :)
I was hoping that they posted it when the site when down and it was killed by people trying to watch it :(

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Reply #238 on: June 05, 2007, 08:10:07 AM

Heh. From the 'Where's the Trailer?" spam thread:
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Reply #239 on: June 05, 2007, 09:36:03 AM

Looks like a cinematic from a Fallout game.  Shocking!
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Reply #240 on: June 05, 2007, 10:25:27 AM

Oh yes.  NMA is awesome right now.

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Upon further reflection it seems kind of... forced... like a cheap copy of the fallout intro...

It even has a similar timing.

It's TOO MUCH like Fallout!  Hahahaha.
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Reply #241 on: June 05, 2007, 10:35:02 AM

I dunno. Kinda falls in line with what I said. Bethesda needs to make their own vision, not just be fanbois - or else it's going to feel forced. No one wants that.
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Reply #242 on: June 05, 2007, 10:41:53 AM

It's a sequel, and they have chosen to maintain the tone of first two games.  But to me, that's what Fallout is about, and it isn't "forcing" anything to maintain that consistency as they move the franchise forward.
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Reply #243 on: June 05, 2007, 10:46:07 AM

I thought it was OK.  I just don't care much for teaser trailers.  I prefer seeing some gameplay.

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Reply #244 on: June 05, 2007, 10:47:22 AM

They do seem to have at least grasped it. I saw a bit of their own (more serious) direction as they moved out of the bus, but it's very reminiscent of the Fallout 1 intro in style, direction and action, save for the powered-armor stormtrooper at the end.

At least it sounds like they got Ron Perlman back.

However, judgement remains out until they show us the beef.
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