Bethesda gets Fallout

[Ironwood]

Finally got around to installing.

Humungous Install :  675Mb.

Lol.

And whatnot.

[bhodi]

I loaded it up too. Gifted Finesse sniper w/ barter and speech and stats to get to 10 by the end. Pretty much what I played with before, but this is gonna be fun!

[schild]

Just installed Fallout 2 again.

Won't run full screen. Schild angry.

[bhodi]

What? Runs fine on XP for me. You did patch right?

I am annoyed; You can get by w/ small arms once you hit the first town, you just have to get through the stupid training mission with stab runaway stab runaway stab runaway, but the damn one shot rifle requires strength 5 to use properly and I've only got 4. Grr.

[schild]

Still not full screen after doing that patch but I am at 1.2.

[Ironwood]

Could be your resolution.  Remember it's teeny-tiny land in the year of the future.

[schild]

well yea

but shouldn't the game force 800x600 or wtfever

This game is not Widescreen friendly. There should be apps to force this shit to play nice with directx.

[Calantus]

What? Runs fine on XP for me. You did patch right?

I am annoyed; You can get by w/ small arms once you hit the first town, you just have to get through the stupid training mission with stab runaway stab runaway stab runaway, but the damn one shot rifle requires strength 5 to use properly and I've only got 4. Grr.

Nab a pistol from the rat cave in Klamath. I hear ya though, I did that once, never again will I go below 5 str. :P

[bhodi]

It's your computer schild; It's got to be. It worked just fine, the first time, on my system. I run @ 1920x1200, Dell 2405FPW, directx 9.0c, nvidia 6800GT w/ nv4_disp.dll driver version 6.14.

Fuck it, I'm restarting the game w/ strength 5.

[Strazos]

Fully patched up, plus the encounter fix.

Runs fine in full screen. Must be you, Schild. 

[NiX]

Has to be you, Schild. We all know your computer is complete shit. Runs fine on my widescreen monitor at 1440x900.

[Sky]

Another note for retrogamers: Planescape has a bunch of user-patches that fix a ton of stuff, too.

[Riggswolfe]

Another note for retrogamers: Planescape has a bunch of user-patches that fix a ton of stuff, too.

I was actually going to do Planescape next after FO1&2. Odd. Thanks to your post i went out and found fixpacks by a guy named Platter.

[Threash]

I was going to make another thread for this but ill stick it here instead:

What could have been

[Ironwood]

Oh, you fucking bastard.

[Yegolev]

What Ironwood said.

Quote on NMA:

Watching that hurt almost as much as when Dogmeat died.

[Calantus]

[Mortriden]

Oh for fuck's sakes.  Put the option for turn based combat back in and that is pure gold.  Someone needs to die. 

[NiX]

Oh for fuck's sakes.  Put the option for turn based combat back in and that is pure gold.  Someone needs to die. 

Someone needs to read. Dev commented on the video and said there was an option for turn based or real time.

[Ironwood]

A few comments:

* Floating damage numbers were meant to be an option, thought it isn't in the options menu in the demo.

* The game was intended to be played either as turn-based or real-time. Because Jefferson was real-time, that was the first combat mode implemented for Van Buren. Even what's there is only partially working. There's no pause (super sucky) or called shots, but weapons did their proper damage types and values, armor resisted properly, and it actually did calculate hit location. In the combat log, it will say where the shots hit and the characters will float comments like, "GOD DAMMIT MY EYES!"

People who have played the demo may have seen a switch on the option screen for combat mode that reads "Ask Me". This would have prompted the player before every battle and asked him or her to select between the two modes.

* The female characters in the demo are on the male skeleton (whoops), which is why they look kind of... El Greco-ish and bizarre.

* True "Fallout-style" death animations were not in the demo because we had to figure out how to do them from a technical perspective. Jefferson wasn't going to have crazy death animations and 3D posed some new challenges for blowing out parts of creatures. It's one of the areas where T-Ray/Brian Menze's 2D work definitely had an edge.

* All males were on the same skeleton, which made it hard to pose the character correctly when he could be a thin character in a jumpsuit or a strong guy in power armor. That's why everyone's walking around "bow-armed" and only the PC's escort in power armor (Cpl. Armstrong) looks like he's in a proper stance. Chris Marleau was our sole animator. He worked really, really hard, but there was no way he could do full animation sets for two male skeletons for the demo deadline.

* The weapons in the demo were chosen either because they were traditional Fallout weapons or because their visual effects/sounds were appealing. The player wouldn't have started with any of that stuff in the actual game.

* Yeah calling Multiplayer "Play With a Friend" was kind of goofy.

Also, around 20 seconds or so, you might notice Cpl. Armstrong in the upper left corner standing with his minigun floating text. He's saying something similar to, "Move citizen, you're standing in my line of fire!"

Of course, this is the most important element of the entire demo: companions that don't shoot you in the back with an automatic weapon."

OH YOU FUCKING BASTARDS.

[schild]

Bethesda will never be able to make a game that good. They'll try really really hard. But ultimately fail.

Ugh.

[Riggswolfe]

Recipe for a good Fallout game:

M-rated humor,dialogue and gore. People must be blown into chunks regularly during the game.
Turn based
Perks and traits
Bizarre quests - I'll take pimp my wife for $100 Alex.

If Fallout 3 is T then I'm automatically not going to buy it. That'll be my biggest warning sign.

[Yegolev]

I'd think your biggest warning sign should be the Bethesda Softworks logo.

[Riggswolfe]

I'd think your biggest warning sign should be the Bethesda Softworks logo.

I'm not as cynical about them as you are. I usually enjoy their games but I do have worries that they can't make the NPCs and dialogue work in a Fallout game.

[Miasma]

Bethesda will make an awesome Fallout 3.  I guarantee they only bought it because they are huge fans of the series and will treat it with the honor and reverence and it deserves.  We should count ourselves lucky that a quality company which won't go bankrupt anytime soon bought up the license.

You will however need to buy an entirely new computer to run it, and I wouldn't bother playing it until the first patch comes out.

[Strazos]

If it's rated T, it will suck. If it's a FPRPG, it will suck. If it has mob scaling, it will suck.


Really, if it's anything like TES, it will suck. Not necessarily because I don't like TES, but because Fallout is NOT TES.

[Wolf]

why did you have to link that. Why.

The actual demo is up for download - http://3ddownloads.com/nma-fallout/fo3/misc/Demo.rar#

edit: I can confirm it is playable. Buggy as hell, save doesn't work, you have to create your char every time. But it is playable. Only download if you want to be filled with nerdrage :(

[Wolf]

A day after the Van Buren video, Betheshda announce a teaser trailer for Fallout 3 in 34 days. Here's the link - http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ . How can they put that "epic" music there and still claim they get it? I mean, come on.

[Rasix]

A day after the Van Buren video, Betheshda announce a teaser trailer for Fallout 3 in 34 days. Here's the link - http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ . How can they put that "epic" music there and still claim they get it? I mean, come on.

No Louis Armstrong or other acceptable old timey song.  They fail. 

I have no confidence in these bastards to make a Fallout game. Have they even confirmed yet that they're going to use the SPECIAL system? NERDRAGE++  Is there a FAQ somewhere I can get angry at?

[Tebonas]

I fear they might forget to give Fallout 3 the retro feel the other 2 had and go for plain scifi. And forget the weird humor. I hope I'm wrong.

[Yoru]

A day after the Van Buren video, Betheshda announce a teaser trailer for Fallout 3 in 34 days. Here's the link - http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ . How can they put that "epic" music there and still claim they get it? I mean, come on.

A craggy real/brown landscape vista with a few dilapidated buildings, pounding LOTR music, "trailer in 34 days".

They don't get it. They don't get it at all.

... sigh.

[Mazakiel]

When I first saw the title, knowing beforehand that Bethesda had started working on the game awhile back, I was hoping they'd released some info or something that showed they 'got' the setting and everything, and the game would actually be good.  Having read the thread, and seen their teaser page....

I hate being disappointed. 

[Nonentity]

Wonder if Jeremy Soule is going to do the music.

It won't be Fallout-ish, but at least it'll be good for what it is.

[NiX]

I almost thought that teaser page was good up until I realized it was my winamp playing the dark trancy music and not the site itself. Boo.

[Sauced]

The music on the teaser site is definitely Soule.

If the teaser has Ron Pearlman doing his "War.  War never changes" bit, I'll be on board til more gameplay mechanics come out.  I'm perfectly willing to enjoy the game on its own terms while wishing they had called it something other than Fallout.  I'm gonna hold out hope (for 34 more days, apparently) that they know that they didn't have to buy the Fallout license to build a FPS/RPG hybrid set in a post-apocolyptic desert.  It just makes no sense.