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Phildo
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Reply #4760 on: April 02, 2009, 07:01:36 PM

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Today A1lone in the Dark corp leave AAA. It's Daira Lir corp, and it mean that AAA lost 2-3 titans, great logistic guy and ~80 members. They were bored to non-stop CTA fighting against us every day.
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Reply #4761 on: April 02, 2009, 09:16:48 PM

If you were confused about why -a- blew up their own poses in 49-, that's why!
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Reply #4762 on: April 02, 2009, 09:22:26 PM

Does that have any effect on the Sov change over at all?

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #4763 on: April 02, 2009, 10:04:23 PM

nah, the funny part is -a- put up the new towers, rather than kenzoku, so nothing changed at all

49-'s kinda boring right now, i'm not super sure what's even going on there as bob's up quite a few poses and sov3 will break verry soon.  i'm very interested to see which way we go next-straight into delve, or work on querious.  i know which one i'd do but who knows what will actually happen
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Reply #4764 on: April 03, 2009, 01:00:39 AM

There is absolutely no surprise about Daira Lir's corp being the first to crack when PvP gets in the way of making ISK.  Still, a pleasant indicator.

In other news, TASE left Exe again, this time apparently on purpose.  That really leaves only one significant PvP corp in their alliance.

In yet more good news, the Papa Digger (Good Russian) news agency reports that one of AAA's biggest corps just had a welp day:

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btw, all Reunion corp assets was stolen yesterday by ehm.. bad director.
BPOs, isks, ships, caps, minerals, components.. ALL. 100b+ They are pretty fucked atm.

I won't crow, as the way things are going in Eve this year it is only a matter of time before we suffer the same thing, but you can imagine that I'm not overly upset for them.  Yet another good datapoint on the internal effects of the tempo of this war on internal cohesion.

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Reply #4765 on: April 03, 2009, 03:48:02 AM

In what is developing into rather a good day so far it looks like we just hot-dropped Kenny and killed some dreads and a carrier belonging to them and some pets during one of our weaker timezones (when the Russians tend to be strong).

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Reply #4766 on: April 03, 2009, 04:59:48 AM

In what is developing into rather a good day so far it looks like we just hot-dropped Kenny and killed some dreads and a carrier belonging to them and some pets during one of our weaker timezones (when the Russians tend to be strong).

Nice alarmclock by PL/you guys.  I wish it'd been a bigger fight though, and good to see you guys fighting at that timezone, after the last few days where 0700 was pretty much the cutoff for much happening.
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Reply #4767 on: April 04, 2009, 10:16:06 AM

We jst wiped out kenny's dread fleet. It's no big deal, really.

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Reply #4768 on: April 04, 2009, 10:18:17 AM

We jst wiped out kenny's dread fleet. It's no big deal, really.

came here to post this, they seem to like getting hotdropped

edit: vvvv yeah i logged in right when that happened and the -a- fleet showed up a tiny bit later and now there isn't any fighting while the dumb pos gets replaced, what a waste of a good opportunity to shoot internet spaceships :I
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Reply #4769 on: April 04, 2009, 10:56:24 AM

Killed a Kenny tower in 49- with BS in euro prime too.

LOOK AT HOW AWESOME I AM!

(heh)

Also, Molle poast!
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Reply #4770 on: April 04, 2009, 12:03:15 PM

We jst wiped out kenny's dread fleet. It's no big deal, really.


Like... all of it?

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #4771 on: April 04, 2009, 12:05:12 PM

We jst wiped out kenny's dread fleet. It's no big deal, really.


Like... all of it?

Something just over 60 of the 80 that were there.  The rest logged out with aggro but you can only kill dreads so fast...

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Reply #4772 on: April 04, 2009, 12:06:52 PM

Was this before or after Molle's latest hurfblurf poast?

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Reply #4773 on: April 04, 2009, 12:10:17 PM

After.  His comic timing is consistently immaculate, if unintentional.  This is, after all, the man whose impeccably-timed titan losses did more than anyone else to lose Bob/Kenny their campaigns in Tenerifis, in Max and then in Delve.

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Reply #4774 on: April 04, 2009, 12:12:36 PM

You can see how it happened chronologically in the thread I linked.  The smack about the cap fight starts on page 5 or 6.
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Reply #4775 on: April 04, 2009, 12:13:45 PM

Lotsa dead dreads...



Kilmails have been found for 46 so far.




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Reply #4776 on: April 04, 2009, 12:35:50 PM

So, at $0.64/lbs, that is at least 8 000 pounds of aluminum worth of dreads.
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Reply #4777 on: April 04, 2009, 11:58:58 PM

Interestingly, Daira Lir's corp has gone and formed a new alliance called ERROR. whose ticker is 404 (heh).  And they're allied with Triumvirate and White Noise, but just got hot-dropped by Pandemic Legion mid-fight in Fountain Syndicate.  Piles upon piles of dreadnaught wrecks.  Sparky, tell us more!

Teh Mayhem

Edit: Battle was in Syndicate, not Fountain.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2009, 09:28:30 AM by Phildo »
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Reply #4778 on: April 05, 2009, 04:20:32 AM

*doesn't want (capital) fleet warfare*
*leaves alliance over it*
*makes own alliance*
*loses fleet in (capital) fleet warfare*
*is Daira Lir*

The circle of dumb is complete...

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Reply #4779 on: April 05, 2009, 04:44:33 AM

Triumvirate has no problem letting macrofarmers sweeten their ISK coffers. Wonder what sort of deal they arranged?
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Reply #4780 on: April 05, 2009, 09:32:16 AM

Triumvirate has no problem letting macrofarmers sweeten their ISK coffers. Wonder what sort of deal they arranged?

We Northern NPC 0.0ers have had a long and mutually profitable relationship with chins. One even started trying to PVP with us. Wang FTW!

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Reply #4781 on: April 05, 2009, 06:20:14 PM

Seems Beachboys have been busy building titans in their part of Period Basis - http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=199616
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Reply #4782 on: April 05, 2009, 06:34:42 PM

They have had one for a while now.

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Reply #4783 on: April 06, 2009, 06:58:06 AM

On Italian CAOD some hours ago;

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Dire Lonestar, sys-k diplomat
What are you gonna do about those kenzoku towers coming out in euro time? Kill them? lol

Funny that...
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Reply #4784 on: April 06, 2009, 07:41:03 AM

Logged in from work between meetings to kill Kenny tower in Euro-TZ crew checkin' in.  What do you mean "skewed priorities"?

200 kenny in system, but most of them were alts or afk.

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Reply #4785 on: April 07, 2009, 04:18:21 AM

So we reinforced 22 Kenny towers in 49-, doing a lot of the work in Euro hours, and Kenny panicked.  They called a big op for themselves, then roped in all of Barbie that still cares enough to show up, and then on top of that they ran to AAA to ask them for protection, so ET posted a CTA on their boards promising a fight.  Dekanor, the DBP of Russia, has been making excited statements about 1000+ local counts post downtime, while AJ Regard, very possibly the worst poster on Shitheap Challenge (no mean feat) claimed that PL, the NC et al have had red pen ops called.

Well, let's hope that they have fun repping POSes when they should be at work, because Molle just called them in to twiddle their thumbs.  We had an op posted saying that we'd see if they called up AAA & co and if not we'd shoot towers, but not to make special arrangements or take the day off.  Then, after we got intel, and well in advance, an update was posted saying what was up.  Meanwhile, PL, MM, Razor et al happily chipped in with the news to poor AJ that they'd had no ops planned at all, at which point, rather toe-curlingingly, he claimed to have been probing for info, following that up with the assertion that their 4am tower timing tonight was to "get the US TZ guys a fight."  Ohhhhh, I see.

The problem for Kenny is that we can do this all the time.  Will they call in Russians every time?  Will Russians keep coming in order to sit in a POS and watch Barbie sperging in local about yet another "we're invading Catch" troll prompting CTAs across the board?

In other news, xDeathx will shortly be taking sov in a number of Tenerifis stations unless AAA head back east.  This has been kept rather quiet by both sides for various reasons.

Finally, in more interesting datapoints for the chart fans, Reikoku has shown that you can strip roles and kick members out, but you don't necessarily have the power to make them bothered enough to apply again to rejoin in the new corp they're supposed to join up at.  Of the 730 members they had 8 days ago, only 343 have actually swapped over so far.  250 are completely AWOL.  You can bet that the situation in other corps like BNC (a quarter of whose members have simply upped and left in the last few weeks) would be at least as bad.

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Reply #4786 on: April 07, 2009, 05:21:29 AM

So guess what happens when you X up in local for a fleet invite, and the opposing side picks up the invite instead of yours?

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Reply #4787 on: April 07, 2009, 06:09:14 AM

Owned.

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Reply #4788 on: April 07, 2009, 06:22:00 AM

So we reinforced 22 Kenny towers in 49-, doing a lot of the work in Euro hours, and Kenny panicked.  They called a big op for themselves, then roped in all of Barbie that still cares enough to show up, and then on top of that they ran to AAA to ask them for protection, so ET posted a CTA on their boards promising a fight.  Dekanor, the DBP of Russia, has been making excited statements about 1000+ local counts post downtime, while AJ Regard, very possibly the worst poster on Shitheap Challenge (no mean feat) claimed that PL, the NC et al have had red pen ops called.

To be fair, they had to get -a- to come in with our buddies, because the last few days have shown GKC alone can't handle the job.

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In other news, xDeathx will shortly be taking sov in a number of Tenerifis stations unless AAA head back east.  This has been kept rather quiet by both sides for various reasons.

Any idea on the systems?  9-9's been spammed heavily but I'm not in game as much as I should be, and think that -a- has majority there, but might not if XdX did a well executed +5 before/after downtime.   Other than 9-9 I'm unaware of anything else, we lost 46dp a week ago and don't seem to be getting it back through spam.
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Reply #4789 on: April 07, 2009, 06:46:07 AM

So we reinforced 22 Kenny towers in 49-, doing a lot of the work in Euro hours, and Kenny panicked.  They called a big op for themselves, then roped in all of Barbie that still cares enough to show up, and then on top of that they ran to AAA to ask them for protection, so ET posted a CTA on their boards promising a fight.  Dekanor, the DBP of Russia, has been making excited statements about 1000+ local counts post downtime, while AJ Regard, very possibly the worst poster on Shitheap Challenge (no mean feat) claimed that PL, the NC et al have had red pen ops called.

To be fair, they had to get -a- to come in with our buddies, because the last few days have shown GKC alone can't handle the job.


I think it's obvious at this point that the GS/PL/RZR and co strategy is to force -A- into a Hobsons choice:  do you continue to buttress Kenny or do you defend your assets on the other side of the galaxy?   It's a slow bleed, and now that GS has Sov 3 in most of Delve it is going to require even more concentrated effort to take it, Molle is completely delusionsal if he thinks he is getting that region back anytime soon.

On another note: shitheap is hilarious.  The only thing you can apparently discuss are fleet battle numbers: logistics, morale, politics and overall strategy are all apparently off limits.  It's ridiculuous as that is the only interesting part of the discussion.  I had five idiot Bob posters demand my banning after I quesitoned AJ REgards assertion that replacing Kenny's dread fleet was "trivial."  Are the mods there all BoB or what?
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Reply #4790 on: April 07, 2009, 07:58:05 AM

I'm no regular there (in fact I've only been (able to stand going there) a handful of times) but in the Mittani's latest TenTonHammer article he refers to them as "BoB's unofficial messageboard".  So I think yes.

Witty banter not included.
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Reply #4791 on: April 07, 2009, 08:52:45 AM

This is the list of GBBS mods and timezones.  It may be wildly inaccurate now.

Viper Shizzle (-8)
Insig (-8)
Trigger64 (-8)

Kery Syander (-7)

Anton March (-5)
Digitalcommunist (-5)
Firane (-5)
Selim (-5)

Laird (0)
Major Stormer (0)

Kcel Chim (+1)

Some people are able to post trash, some are not.  *shrug*
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Reply #4792 on: April 07, 2009, 09:05:40 AM

To be honest the only person I know on that list is Viper Shizzle and I know he is in PL.  I just don't understand their entire moderation policy, and they ban you if you even try to discuss it.  Why have a "war and politics" forum and not allow people to discuss either war or politics?  It's maddening.  We manage to have a rational discussion on this forum with folks from both sides without it degenerating into bedlam/CAOD.  I assume thats because the mods here understand that shitpoasting has nothing to do with subject (within reason) and everything to do with intent and manner of the post.
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Reply #4793 on: April 07, 2009, 10:42:47 AM

It's to stop trolling the other side. It doesn't work.

The main issue with GBBS is that it randomly appears that if BoB is losing, the threads get chain locked and go away for a bit due to GS chestbeating/taunting. If BoB is winning, chestbeating/taunting doesn't get cracked down on nearly as much. It's possible that it's confirmation bias, but there seems to be a dire lack of bannings for people like AJ (who is blatantly trolling the new thread with that "all these people have alarm clocks, psych I was just fishing for intel!" shit, which is blatantly not delve battle related.

Now, he may get smacked later today, but I'd lay odds he won't.
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Reply #4794 on: April 07, 2009, 11:09:59 AM

Crapheap's owner used to be a cheerleader for BoB...before CCP hired him as a GM.
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