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Abagadro
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Reply #735 on: June 16, 2008, 08:39:28 PM

Looked like the ruins of New York and the speculation is that it was from the perspective of one side of the Brooklyn Bridge.


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Reply #736 on: June 16, 2008, 08:54:32 PM

So it was an improvement?

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Reply #737 on: June 16, 2008, 09:11:08 PM

Final scene drove me up the wall.

1) Assuming they lack planetscanning abilities (and wouldn't they, since they had to fucking land to find out what the damn dirty apes had done), how do they know that the whole planet is that messed up?  Seriously, parts of New York look like that right now and there are still some nice spots on this planet.

2) Who cares that the whole planet isn't sweetness and light?  Plants were growing.  They can breathe the air.  It seems to be an improvement over the shithole that was New Caprica.  Move to the remains of Iowa, grow some corn, and regrow the human race!  Yay, it's what they've been hoping for the entire series!  Oh wait, everyone's fucking crying.  Hello cognitive dissonance.  Were they seriously expecting a fucking parade?

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Reply #738 on: June 16, 2008, 09:22:22 PM

I don't remember seeing any plants growing.  And from the clicking of the geiger counter it sounded like the dirt was radioactive.  Not really a good sign for the farming prospects.
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Reply #739 on: June 16, 2008, 09:34:43 PM

I looked specifically for plants as soon as the 'oh noes post apocalips!' angle became apparent.  There were many.  You can see some in the screen cap Abagadro posted.

My current prediction is that there will be some reserve found on the planet that's safe from the damage (hello Garden of Eden allegory).  Remember the circle of stones in the Earth vision of previous seasons?  That exists somewhere.  If that's true, then they don't know for a fact that the whole planet is like that.  And if they don't know, then their uber-despair response is just implausible.  If they do know, then it was not communicated at all well to the viewer and I'd consider it a total storytelling breakdown (also, I don't believe this is the case.  See prediction).

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Reply #740 on: June 17, 2008, 04:44:10 AM

Looked like the ruins of New York and the speculation is that it was from the perspective of one side of the Brooklyn Bridge.

Yeah it's New York, which I find corny. We foreigners are baffled that all movie aliens land in the USA first when looking for humans. You'd think they would go looking in India or China, where the population density has been.

Doesn't this pic show the Statue of Liberty, missing a forearm? But the island seems to have sunk or the water has risen.


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Reply #741 on: June 17, 2008, 05:47:35 AM

I don't remember seeing any plants growing.  And from the clicking of the geiger counter it sounded like the dirt was radioactive.  Not really a good sign for the farming prospects.

Well yeah, New York at ground zero might be a bit high on the radiation scale.  BFE, Idaho?  Probably not so much radiation there.

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Reply #742 on: June 17, 2008, 07:50:11 AM

I'm guessing they chose New York because the skyline is so recognizable.  There are a few other sights that would qualify but none of them amount to a whole city.

I also think that their reaction wasn't total despair.  It was pretty bad, but no one's said "welp, this sux, let's head back to New Caprica" or anything.

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Reply #743 on: June 17, 2008, 07:52:33 AM

So it was an improvement?

Pish, damn Texans.

They've become insufferable since Texas overcame New York in population.
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Reply #744 on: June 17, 2008, 08:58:43 AM

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Were they seriously expecting a fucking parade?
Given the mystery messages from the miracle viper, I think they were. I would have been.

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Reply #745 on: June 17, 2008, 09:35:15 AM

Pish, damn Texans.

They've become insufferable since Texas overcame New York in population.
I'll have you know I've always been insufferable, thankyouverymuch!  Remember, we do things bigger in Texas.

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Were they seriously expecting a fucking parade?
Given the mystery messages from the miracle viper, I think they were. I would have been.
I don't know about a parade, but I do think they were expecting Paradise.  We don't know their landing criterea, but if it was "random", then it would be kind of a downer to find a radioactive and ruined landscape where once there was a visibly thriving population center.  It's kind of a reminder of where they just came from.

I imagine they will find survivors and pockets of very nice habitable land.  I expect our continuing drama to be about the integration of cultures and fighting the other Cylons more than the hardships of New New Caprica.

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Reply #746 on: June 17, 2008, 02:46:50 PM

I took all the grumpiness to be related to (a) the radiation and (b) the fact that everyone is dead.

Given they were expecting to find (a) somewhere nice and (b) the thirteenth tribe, I think some angst is a reasonable reaction.


Throughout their entire journey Earth as been held up as good place to be, 'only as crappy as New Caprica' isn't what was expected.

If you travelled for several years to reach a new home, then arrived in Brooklyn Heights, you'd be scowling too.

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