Molten Core

[MrHat]

I think I'm the only person who loves Sunken Temple.

[lamaros]

I think I'm the only person who loves Sunken Temple.

nope

[Mazakiel]

Sunken Temple seems to be one of those instances people either love or hate, no in between at all.  A friend I've played with on Horde side ran it all the time with people, long after anyone really needed to go to it, a friend I play my Alliance character with loathes it and tried to warn me off. 

The one instance I have never heard anyone like is Gnomeregon.  I had one aborted attempt to run it once, and it did leave a bad impression.  Of course, it was with a PUG of idiots, so who knows. 

[Lantyssa]

My problem with Gnomeragon is being too big and the damnable alarms.

Sunken Temple is okay, I suppose, but I find it rather boring.

[Paelos]

My problem with Gnomeragon is being too big and the damnable alarms.

Sunken Temple is okay, I suppose, but I find it rather boring.

Yes, Gnomergon is too much of a time commitment for people who are still in the leveling mode. 5 man instances should never take more than one hour at the appopriate level range, unless you are a bunch of wiping idiots. However, some are designed so that even the best groups cannot meet these time goals, and Gnomergon is one of them. Also, back during the time of launch when many people had to wander in there, the pathing on the mobs was horrible. Piss one off down low, and it would run all the way around the back of the instance chaining every mob on the way up to you. This would lead to the inevitable wipe and the horribly long run, possibly through a few respawns, just to get back to your corpses lay.

Sunken Temple suffers from a similar problem. You have to go the ass-end way around everything to open up rooms that you can get to in about 10 minutes if you weren't having to open portals and other BS. It's the whole idea of forced cockblocks during leveling that pisses people off, and they tried their best in the expansion not to pull that kind of crap anymore until the top. People will avoid hard instances during leveling because there is always something better to do with your time. At the top, it works better because there really isn't anything better to do with your time than to try and unlock new zones. Thus, you get things like the Onyxia and Mt. Hyjal attunement quest lines, finding various keys to open various dungeons, and the rep grinds to get into heroic modes.

[Kail]

The one instance I have never heard anyone like is Gnomeregon.  I had one aborted attempt to run it once, and it did leave a bad impression.  Of course, it was with a PUG of idiots, so who knows. 

I thought it was fun, but I only ever ran it once, and I was probably overlevelled (the last boss was green to me, and the quests I think were gray).  I was in a bizarre PUG, and we didn't have a healer or a tank (our group was something like mage-rogue-rogue-hunter-warlock(me)), so it was one of the more unique runs I've done.  That, coupled with the atmosphere (and probably the fact that nothing in the instance was really a threat to us) has always made me think of Gnomeregan as a fairly fun, unique instance.

[Morat20]

The one instance I have never heard anyone like is Gnomeregon.  I had one aborted attempt to run it once, and it did leave a bad impression.  Of course, it was with a PUG of idiots, so who knows. 

I thought it was fun, but I only ever ran it once, and I was probably overlevelled (the last boss was green to me, and the quests I think were gray).  I was in a bizarre PUG, and we didn't have a healer or a tank (our group was something like mage-rogue-rogue-hunter-warlock(me)), so it was one of the more unique runs I've done.  That, coupled with the atmosphere (and probably the fact that nothing in the instance was really a threat to us) has always made me think of Gnomeregan as a fairly fun, unique instance.

The All-Cloth Five tried to run it at the appropriate level, and had to call it because of time. (Lock, Lock, Mage, Mage, Priest -- who needs a stinkin' tank?). We did beat Blackfathom Deeps at roughly the appropriate level, and we were doing fine about 1/2 through Gnomer.

There is that backdoor route that lets you bypass a lot of trash, though.

[Kenrick]

I tried Gnomer once, with my first toon, and subsequently decided to permanently boycott that hellhole.  It's just so... blah.

I do actually enjoy Sunken Temple for some reason, I like the art/atmosphere and the layout.

[Jayce]

I found Gnomer to be way too busy.  After an entire evening spent in there (and it does take that long when you are of the right level) I had a headache from it.

[Yoshimaru]

I will forever love Gnomer just because of Hydrocane...

[pxib]

I liked Sunken Temple for the same reason I liked Shadowfang Keep, Undead Stratholme, and (to a far lesser extent) the Stockades. They feel like real places... not just carved rooms and passages. The architecture is meaningful and tightly arranged. Everything has a purpose.

Shadowfang does it the best, it feels like a walking-tour haunted house. The courtyard, the banquet hall, the ramparts, the tower.

Compare that to the arbitrary room layout of the Scarlet Monestary. Yugh.

[Ironwood]

If they put as much thought into All the Instances as they did for SFK, I'd be a happy man.  Aweseome place.

[DevilsAdvocate]

Gnomeregan! How I loathe thee!

No, it's not that its a bad instance per se. Being an engineer, I liked the specific things in there just for me.

Every week or so, I probably do 1-3 Gnomeregan runs. I go through the back door and solo all the way to Thermaplugg. Kill him and loot. To this day, probably done it about 100 times. And have NOT SEEN THE FIRE DEFLECTOR SCHEMATIC DROP ONCE!

Thottbot says it's just a low drop rate. It's the only non-raid pre-BC engineering schematic I don't have.

Fun stuff in Gnomeregan:

Techbot and his customer service sayings
The Sparkle-matics and cleaning stuff
The CROWD PUMMELER!
Thermaplugg and all his sayings: "Explosions, I need more Explosions!", "GNOMEREGAN IS MINE!"

I remember when the Arcane Robots in there reflected hunter shots, like Aimed Shot and Arcane Shot. And when the mines the Dark Iron Dwarves dropped did 200 damage when they exploded.

Worst/Funniest thing I ever did:

I used the engineered Remote Control to run a robot off a cliff. It survived and brought the whole zone back on my group. At the time, I had no idea why that happened.

[Morat20]

Gnomeregan! How I loathe thee!

No, it's not that its a bad instance per se. Being an engineer, I liked the specific things in there just for me.

Every week or so, I probably do 1-3 Gnomeregan runs. I go through the back door and solo all the way to Thermaplugg. Kill him and loot. To this day, probably done it about 100 times. And have NOT SEEN THE FIRE DEFLECTOR SCHEMATIC DROP ONCE!

Thottbot says it's just a low drop rate. It's the only non-raid pre-BC engineering schematic I don't have.

Fun stuff in Gnomeregan:

Techbot and his customer service sayings
The Sparkle-matics and cleaning stuff
The CROWD PUMMELER!
Thermaplugg and all his sayings: "Explosions, I need more Explosions!", "GNOMEREGAN IS MINE!"

I remember when the Arcane Robots in there reflected hunter shots, like Aimed Shot and Arcane Shot. And when the mines the Dark Iron Dwarves dropped did 200 damage when they exploded.

Worst/Funniest thing I ever did:

I used the engineered Remote Control to run a robot off a cliff. It survived and brought the whole zone back on my group. At the time, I had no idea why that happened.

I have two of the reflectors -- one dropped in BRD, the other in Live Strat. I didn't know one dropped in Gnomer. I go there to get mats for repair bots.

[Shavnir]

You never saw the flame reflector drop there because it drops off of Solkar Flamewreath in BRD.

[Lantyssa]

Oooh, burn!  If only you had that reflector....

[DevilsAdvocate]

You never saw the flame reflector drop there because it drops off of Solkar Flamewreath in BRD.

Not talking about the Flame REFLECTOR. I'm looking for the schematic for the Flame DEFLECTOR.

The reflector sends it back at whoever shot it at you. The deflector simply absorbs it.

I have all 3 Reflectors.

I have the Ice Deflector, but not the Flame Deflector. Stupid Thermaplugg.

[Zetor]

And the flame reflector schematic drops in UBRS anyway (Solakar is the boss of the 'father flame' event), not BRD. :p

My [and my guild's] least-favorite-dungeon has to be Uldaman. Bad memories of doing it sometime in early 2005, and wiping at the last boss over and over and over for hours, having to reclear the trash in the dungeon TWICE because of fast respawns [and geez, there's a lot of trash].
This was before they nerfed the encounter and removed a lot of the spawns, mind. Uldaman is serious business.


-- Z.

[SurfD]

nah, uldaman is messed up because the last boss is over-leveled for the instance.

Its like 2 levels higher then everything else in the place, so when you go in with an appropriate level party, he hands you your asses cause all you get is glancing blows and resists.

the thing that always buggged me about uldaman was the stupid neclkace quest that requires you to run the place like 4 times to finish the thing