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Reply #35 on: January 03, 2007, 01:36:54 PM

Did no one see, or like, the Kill Bill stuff?

Kill Bill was, to me, a case of Tarantino overdosing on his own hype with nobody around to say no to him.  If your fight scenes drag on for so long that even gory decapitations become boring, you don't need to split it up into two movies.  You need a god damned editor.

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Reply #36 on: January 03, 2007, 01:40:20 PM

Kill Bill sucked monkey ass. It was over the top stupid, campy, and cheesy. It was an expensive homage to movies that were better left on Saturday morning matinees, with dialogue so grossly strained it gave David Mamet a heart attack five minutes in, and a loving tribute to the nastiness that is Uma Thurman's rubber chicken feet. There was about 30 minutes of story not even worthy of an afterschool special, elongated like Plastic Man into not one shitty movie but two incredibly shitty movies that besmirched the names of otherwise fine actors and actresses.

I dunno, with me, if I don't have a historical bone to pick with a movie, a lot of stuff that may bother people who actually care about movies passes right be me.

Except where Jet Li is concerned. I fucking hate his movies.

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Reply #37 on: January 03, 2007, 04:15:01 PM

Please, for the love of God and all things holy, don't make this about Kill Bill. We've been down that road, and the only thing there is the assraped corpse of a man I call Sanity.

EDIT: In relation to the topic, as long as Speilberg is on board I don't have any problems with Ford as the main character. I think the storyline will adapt nicely to the age change involved as long as he is directing the project.
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Reply #38 on: January 03, 2007, 05:36:39 PM

I actually wouldn't mind if the direction changed from less action Indy to more scholarly indy ala Dan Brown.
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Reply #39 on: January 04, 2007, 05:17:48 AM

King Arthur? Fuck's sake that movie was a Stupid Sandwich.

I have some sympathy for that movie because I have a soft spot for Antoine Fuqua, the director.  He also did Training Day and Tears of the Sun, so you know he's not a hack McMovie director like Brett Ratner.  I give the guy credit for being a black director and not going the John Singleton route; making a long line of crappy angsty "street" movies.  He was trying to tackle the Arthurian mythos with some semblance of how things may have been, what with Rome vacating Britain, the Saxons moving in, etc.  He failed, but it was still a better movie than some of the shit that's come out of the Arthurian legends.  Last Knight with Richard Gere, anyone?

When you come down to it, there's really only two ways to go with Arthur, and that's either the Excalibur, mythic to the hilt way or something along the lines of what he was trying to do. 
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Reply #40 on: January 04, 2007, 05:31:54 AM

Ah, forgot about the Saxons in that film. Stellan Skarsgård was pretty cool. As always.

Really, he was probably the only good thing in that film (and I like those other actors too).
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Reply #41 on: January 04, 2007, 05:34:12 AM

Ah, forgot about the Saxons in that film. Stellan Skarsgård was pretty cool. As always.

Check out Beowulf & Grendel when you get a chance, he plays Rothgar in it.  Not a bad movie, and fairly well done as to the whole Grendel motivation thing.
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Reply #42 on: January 04, 2007, 05:40:32 AM

Good idea. Thanks.
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Reply #43 on: January 04, 2007, 06:15:31 AM

Before Rocky Balboa I would have been more skeptical about 60something Ford playing Indy. (I just realized he is older than Sylvester Stallone if my math is right. Weird.)

If it is handled as well as Rocky was it'll probably be ok.

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Reply #44 on: January 04, 2007, 07:56:27 AM

King Arthur was ok. It felt rushed, and underfunded, but the idea was noble, if poorly executed. Another midieval epic that I thought was underrated was Kingdom of Heaven. I came to it with low expectation and was pretty gratified at the results. I recommend it for a lazy Sunday afternoon.

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Reply #45 on: January 04, 2007, 12:26:25 PM

I dig Antoine Fuqua. I have ever since Replacement Killers, an underrated action movie. With him directing and Owen starring, it should have been great, or at least bearable. It wasn't. I finally had to turn it off at the stage where they had the ice fight with the pursuing whatever they were. It was just "quasi-realistic fantasy epic with Braveheart-style battles 101" and that part sealed the deal of bombastic, silly fight scenes. It tried too hard to top the rest of the fight scenes and degenerated into silly land, instead of just being a good fight scene with good cinematography.

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Reply #46 on: January 04, 2007, 02:10:42 PM

I realise that LWAW made money.  I just thought it was rubbish.  The thing about the books is that they're completely anorexic and don't really lend themselves to a 1 30 movie too well.  This shone through like a diamond in LWAW - the characterisation was non-existant and the plot was like Callista Flockhart; thin.

Children's.

Books.

If we're going to start ripping apart things aimed at kids, let's start with something that deserves it, like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Speaking of children's books become film: Where's my well-done version of The Dark is Rising? How about a version of The Black Cauldron where that noble twit stays dead, rather than have Gurgi self-rez?

Or fuck, how about Wee Free Men? Good Omens. Do some damn Pratchett. There's a shit-ton of good books out there that could be good movies, now that a couple of directors got off their asses and proved a movie version DOESN'T have to suck ass.
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Reply #47 on: January 04, 2007, 02:15:05 PM

Call me old fashioned, but I hope that most of the good children's books stay just books.  Kids need an incentive to read something other than MySpace pages. 

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Reply #48 on: January 04, 2007, 02:56:14 PM

Call me old fashioned, but I hope that most of the good children's books stay just books.  Kids need an incentive to read something other than MySpace pages. 

It's a tough call.  Some people are more likely to pick the book up if they see the movie and like it.  Jurassic Park, High Fidelity, and the Harry Potter series all spring to mind as books I was inspired to read only after seeing the movies.  A friend of mine only finally picked up Hitchhiker's Guide (after years of nudging from me) after he saw the movie and dug it.

People who go by the logic of "I saw the movie, reading the book would make no sense now" probably wouldn't read a book voluntarily anyway.
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Reply #49 on: January 04, 2007, 05:33:44 PM

Speaking of children's books become film: Where's my well-done version of The Dark is Rising?

Loved the series, but The Dark is Rising one of those books that as much as you love it, you know there's absolutely no way in hell its going to make it to the threatres. Maybe BBC or ITV in England will have a miniseries filmed on a shoe-string budget that plays at 10 a.m. Saturday mornings, but that's about the size of it.

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Reply #50 on: January 04, 2007, 07:11:41 PM

Apparently, it's being developed as a major motion picture. People want a little of that lord of the rings action.

When the dark comes rising, six shall turn it back; Three from the circle, three from the track. Wood, bronze, iron, water fire, stone, five will return, one go alone

I did that from memory, except for the order of the elements. I haven't read the series in about 15 years, and that's how much I loved it. What a great series; it's dated now, but it made one hell of impression on me when I was about 10.

It also made me want to visit wales; I've never yet been but I imagine the mountains to be just like in the book. Amazing.
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Reply #51 on: January 05, 2007, 08:40:04 AM

Mountains?  In Wales?

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Reply #52 on: January 05, 2007, 09:17:52 AM

books, you have failed me again :(

no mountains in wales?
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Reply #53 on: January 05, 2007, 09:40:09 AM

Well, I think there's a few that can *technically* claim to be "mountains" since they meet the 2,000-foot requirement.  They're not exactly Everest, though.

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Reply #54 on: January 05, 2007, 03:50:03 PM

Well, I think there's a few that can *technically* claim to be "mountains" since they meet the 2,000-foot requirement.  They're not exactly Everest, though.

Yeah, no Alps or Rockies, but the Welsh (and the Cornish) are historically well known for being miners.  George Hearst almost exclusively imported Welsh and Cornish miners to work the Comstock Lode, along with hordes of Chinese coolies for debris removal and shit like that.
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Reply #55 on: January 05, 2007, 04:30:06 PM

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Reply #56 on: January 05, 2007, 04:38:00 PM

Well, I think there's a few that can *technically* claim to be "mountains" since they meet the 2,000-foot requirement.  They're not exactly Everest, though.

Reminds me of this.
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Reply #57 on: January 06, 2007, 09:48:45 AM

http://www.mountainwalk.co.uk/walkingsnowdon.html

Welsh mountains go up to around 3500ft. Which for comparison is about as high as the top of a fairly high ski resort.

As mentioned, not exactly everest or anything - not least because the Welsh have a climate that's as good as can be expected for walking up mountains. But you climb it and you are going to feel it.
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Reply #58 on: January 07, 2007, 12:44:43 PM

Very cool. That's added of the list of things to do when I finally visit.
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Reply #59 on: January 12, 2007, 02:43:22 AM


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