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Topic: Kramer Channels the Dice Man (Read 14744 times)
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Roac
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I mean really, most shows just boil down to watching how selfish, paranoid or detached that each character can be coupled with an onslaught of random misunderstandings.
They are suposed to be selfish, paranoid, detached people who get caught up in random misunderstandings. It's funny because all too often, people are like that even if Seinfeld takes it to an extreme. |
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shiznitz
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Seinfeld was, and still is, the best sitcom ever made. Especially once they started making all the plotlines interweave. I really enjoyed how the main characters were somewhat unlikable, it was like a breath of fresh air from all the other canned sitcoms.
Season seven should be coming out on DVD soon.
Season 7. That is all you need to know. Jerry saw his DVD sales at risk and rushed Richards onto Letterman. Comics use racial epithets in their live acts all the fucking time. Richards could have easily played this off as a bit that went too far, but by apologizing he labels himself a racist. But what is he going to do when Jerry tells him to apologize to support the royalty stream? Michael Richards never has to work another day in his life. |
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Ironwood
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Seinfeld was, and still is, the best sitcom ever made.
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Triforcer
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What Richards did was tasteless and he rightly deserves the title "racist", at least for now. However, an observation: a black comedian who did the exact same thing (complete with the most offensive racial epithets for whites) wouldn't have merited so much as a mention in the local paper.
Double standards. Either we destroy everybody who uses certain words or we destroy nobody.
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stray
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Like someone said above though, "honky" doesn't quite have the same connotations or history as "nigger".
"Honky" from a black man's mouth is a funny word, and maybe 5% bad. "Redneck" might be slightly worse. Maybe.
"Nigger" from a white man's mouth is bad, bad, bad, bad, and bad.
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Paelos
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Like someone said above though, "honky" doesn't quite have the same connotations or history as "nigger".
"Honky" from a black man's mouth is a funny word, and maybe 5% bad. "Redneck" might be slightly worse. Maybe.
"Nigger" from a white man's mouth is bad, bad, bad, bad, and bad.
That's fine and all, but just remember that your grandchildren will probaly cringe when you call them blacks. While I agree that the word "Nigger" was used specifically for hate in the past and has that charge, all the verbal whitewashing and coddling is getting ridiculous. |
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stray
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Do you want permission to call people niggers or what? I don't understand the point of even discussing this. Yeah, it sucks that life isn't fair, that white people have no...umm..leeway?....in this....But deal with it. Things might change over time. Then we can all call people niggers.  |
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Paelos
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Do you want permission to call people niggers or what? I don't understand the point of even discussing this. Yeah, it sucks that life isn't fair, that white people have no...umm..leeway?....in this....But deal with it. Things might change over time. Then we can all call people niggers. I'm saying cut the usage in all cultures (white and black) if you want it to go away, or just shut up about it. Chastise both sides and watch it shrivel up, or embrace that things will never change and get over yourselves. |
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stray
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I understand. I just doubt it's a thing that comes through conscious will. Chastising would probably just inflame the wound.
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« Last Edit: November 22, 2006, 07:42:08 PM by Stray »
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bhodi
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Ironwood
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Abagadro
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What Richards did was tasteless and he rightly deserves the title "racist", at least for now. However, an observation: a black comedian who did the exact same thing (complete with the most offensive racial epithets for whites) wouldn't have merited so much as a mention in the local paper.
Double standards. Either we destroy everybody who uses certain words or we destroy nobody.
I knew it wouldn't take long for the White Man's Persecution Complex to make an appearance. I would wager that if a black comedian did in fact do this in a similar situation (i.e. completely losing it outside of the context of a bit and calling a specific person racially charged names) it would indeed get similar attention. Just because Chris Rock gets to make jokes about "crackers" doesn't make it a double-standard. It's contextually different in numerous ways. |
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WindupAtheist
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Excuses are all well and good, but when you go off to THAT extent, you have to wear the "racist" label. You just do. That was frothing "OMG NIGGARS" lunacy.
EDIT: Semi-related, a Second Life grief tactic I've heard worked was to make an avatar that looked like a really racist imagining of a black man. Super-dark, giant lips, the whole nine yards. Then go around griefing people through the usual methods. Wait for them to get mad and scream "LEAVE US ALONE YOU DAMN NIGGER!" and then report them for racism and watch them get banned.
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2006, 07:51:36 PM by WindupAtheist »
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Fabricated
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Ironwood
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Classy.
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lamaros
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What Richards did was tasteless and he rightly deserves the title "racist", at least for now. However, an observation: a black comedian who did the exact same thing (complete with the most offensive racial epithets for whites) wouldn't have merited so much as a mention in the local paper.
Double standards. Either we destroy everybody who uses certain words or we destroy nobody.
Except he wasn't funny. You can perhaps excuse racial invective when it makes a point of some sort (satirical, comedic, etc) but Richards was not in this case. |
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HaemishM
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Life isn't fucking fair. No, it isn't fair that black people can say "nigga" to each other all day long and the minute a white guy gets the first syllable out of his mouth, he's a racist. Deal with it. Neither words nor people are equal for all. Men can't call their wife a bitch without expecting consequences.
In short, if a white man wants to call a black man a nigger, he better be prepared to be labeled a racist, whether that's fair or not.
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Heh. Just about spit delicious raspberry mocha all over my monitor. That should be out on DVD soon, right? |
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Cheddar
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It's ok, I'm taking it back.
Heh. Just about spit delicious raspberry mocha all over my monitor. That should be out on DVD soon, right? Tomorrow. |
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Fabricated
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