Dungeons & Dragons: Stormreach

[Cheddar]

is there an endgame yet?  do they have PvP?  what are people doing who run through all the quests and ding 10/10?  rerolling or is there more?

The level cap is now 12, and there are a bunch of new areas.  Also you can get special stuff via faction, and curently you can unlock the Drow race by getting a certain amound of faction.   Also there is PvP now, and its tracked or some such thing.  I am actually looking forward to playing it tonight, just working on recovering from a hangover.

[Furiously]

I think there is a dragon. And a beholder. I'm positive there is a beholder.

[Falconeer]

How does pvp works here? If I remember the beta correctly this game is just a big visual chat lobby (Guess you can't fight there in the city hubs) where you get a group and enter instanced dungeons.
Where are you supposed to meet people to pvp against?
Or are you supposed to "Create a PvP instance" and invite other players to bash each others in there, a la Quake Deathmatch?

[Soln]

How does pvp works here? If I remember the beta correctly this game is just a big visual chat lobby (Guess you can't fight there in the city hubs) where you get a group and enter instanced dungeons.
Where are you supposed to meet people to pvp against?
Or are you supposed to "Create a PvP instance" and invite other players to bash each others in there, a la Quake Deathmatch?

yes, are there PvP servers, BG's or just arena combat?

[Xilren's Twin]

How does pvp works here? If I remember the beta correctly this game is just a big visual chat lobby (Guess you can't fight there in the city hubs) where you get a group and enter instanced dungeons.
Where are you supposed to meet people to pvp against?
Or are you supposed to "Create a PvP instance" and invite other players to bash each others in there, a la Quake Deathmatch?

yes, are there PvP servers, BG's or just arena combat?

Haven't tried it yet but....

Player versus Player combat
We have made two kinds of Player versus player content. You can jump into the Tavern Brawl pit in many of the taverns to enjoy free-for-all battle that doesn’t take any time to start and costs you nothing to play.
You can also play in our fighting arenas, where parties are assembled and pit against each other in different spaces to test your ingenuity and combat expertise.
Spells have been tailored to be more PvP friendly, but use a different pathway than the same spells when you are playing in a normal dungeon with your party. So, for instance, Curse is different in PvP and won’t apply to your normal dungeon play.

And yes, there is some raiding content where raid = 2 groups of 6.

Xilren

[jpark]

The idea of bar brawling is cool.

[Falconeer]

So their idea of PvP is just meaningless arena fighting?
Wonder why EQ2 announced PvP was coming with their second expansion (Kingdom of Sky) when they actually introduced Arena fighting in their first (Desert of Flames).

If that's PvP, I hereby declare that Pong is the best PvP game ever.

[stray]

Well.....Pong actually is the best PvP game ever.

[Nija]

Playing Co-op Double Dragon and beating the piss out of each other while also fending off the actual bad guys is the best PVP ever.

[geldonyetich]

Playing Co-op Double Dragon and beating the piss out of each other while also fending off the actual bad guys is the best PVP ever.

Not when you're short on quarters.

[eldaec]

So their idea of PvP is just meaningless arena fighting?

Arena fighting is the entire basis of Guild Wars, and lack of Arena fighting was the longest running consistent whine of the daoc community.

Do not underestimate the popularity of pointless arena fighting in a pvp based game.

The popularity of arena fighting in a shit game that no one plays is of course harder to predict.

[stray]

I'm gonna give this another shot too. Playing nwn2 makes me want to look at this game up close again.

[Falconeer]

So their idea of PvP is just meaningless arena fighting?

Arena fighting is the entire basis of Guild Wars, and lack of Arena fighting was the longest running consistent whine of the daoc community.

Do not underestimate the popularity of pointless arena fighting in a pvp based game.

The popularity of arena fighting in a shit game that no one plays is of course harder to predict.

I don't understimate arenas, I just think they are a joke in Massive Online Worlds. Calling them fights, I am ok with it. Battles too.
PvP.. meh.. . Although technically correct, I think it's not what people have in mind when the acronym is used. I could be wrong but as far as I can remember no one used to call "PvP" Quake Deathmactch back in the days (or Intellivision NASL® Soccer challeneges fought all night long over dorm undisputed ruling). To me instanced fights between players, as in Counterstrike or Guild Wars (yes beside the territorial gain, that sounds to me more CS Clanbase than MMO PvP), are not that much PvP :(
Especially when they don't serve any purpose gameplay-wise (as in D&D Online apparently).

That said, to me Guild Wars is a strategic-slow motion version of Conterstrike with a turf war system coded in the software.
Or moreso a Lineage 2 inspired minigame, like a java free web-version of L2.

[stray]

Hey, what server are any of you DDO players on anyways?

[Lt.Dan]

Playing Co-op Double Dragon and beating the piss out of each other while also fending off the actual bad guys is the best PVP ever.

Good memories there, although in the end the stupid unstoppable elbow attack ruined it all.