BF2142 has Spyware? /dropkick

[climbjtree]

Well said, schild.

Another option: Develop a BF2 mod that's set in the futher, with frickin' laser beams and mechs. The key would be for it to be just different enough from BF2142 that EA couldn't stamp it out.

[Miasma]

Quake Wars is coming soon, ID will hopefully crush EA/DICE.  Short video (I don't think the "coming in 2006" is still true).

[CaptainNapkin]

Even though EA has been doing some stuff recently that I didn't like, I admittedly haven't let that stop me from buying an EA game that was a decent one. This changes that, I'll vote with my wallet this time. And this was a title I was on the fence with, then tried the demo and had enough fun with it that I decided I was going to buy it. I'm just amazed that people won't find this out until after they have broken the seal on the box. Ah well, another reason I don't preorder games nowadays.

[sinij]

Quake Wars is coming soon, ID will hopefully crush EA/DICE.  Short video (I don't think the "coming in 2006" is still true).

This looks good, I hope they don't fag out and make it PS3 or Xbox360 title.

[Strazos]

I never really liked the controls of the BF games...Quake/UT is much more my style.

[stray]

Huh?

Every PC FPS is basically the same. WASD. 1-10 weapon cycling. Spacebar Jumping.

[Strazos]

I mean the general aiming and movement physics of the game. I have the same problem with Counterstrike, though the stupid hitboxes in that game piss me off to no end.

[Sky]

I never really liked the controls of the BF games...Quake/UT is much more my style.

Bunnyhoptarded rocketjumper!

 

Actually I feel the franchise is going too far in the action/quake/ut direction. 1942 was much slower paced. I've mentioned this before with my wish for a WWI BF. Mustard gas those bunnyhoppers that are camping the airstrip for biplanes!

[sinij]

I tend to agree that they don't get better from the days of CS. For example in BF2 sniper rifle bullet does not follow gravity arc or you can shoot machine gun nearly point blank and miss all of your shots.

[Strazos]

you can shoot machine gun nearly point blank and miss all of your shots.

This shit happens in CS, constantly.

Bunnyhoptarded rocketjumper!

No, I don't do any of that crap. What I mean is, my shots actually go where I aim at, not like that crap in CS where my reticle simply get's bigger to indicate lowered accuracy. I understand that rapid fire kills my accuracy - just make my actual reticle move then, so I can at least compensate.

[WayAbvPar]

you can shoot machine gun nearly point blank and miss all of your shots.

This shit happens in CS, constantly.

Bunnyhoptarded rocketjumper!

No, I don't do any of that crap. What I mean is, my shots actually go where I aim at, not like that crap in CS where my reticle simply get's bigger to indicate lowered accuracy. I understand that rapid fire kills my accuracy - just make my actual reticle move then, so I can at least compensate.

You would actually prefer the reticle to jump around? /boggle

The expanded reticule is actually pretty realistic- when shooting full auto, even an expert can only place shots in a certain area. There is just no way to control the gun unless you have some way to completely dampen the recoil.

Learn to shoot in bursts, noobler 

[Yegolev]

I thought the expanding reticle in FarCry was pretty nice.  I could gauge the spread, unlike with, say, a jiggly reticle.  Also: shoot in bursts, Count Noobula.

[Strazos]

I am talking about bursts; Of course I don't expect to be able to compensate for the amount of jump I would see in the reticle when going full auto - that's what tracer rounds are for.

But what I mean by the expanding reticle is that the more expands, the crazier your shots get. Hell, I'm fairly sure I could aim better than the in-game avatars IRL sometimes...I wouldn't be firing at the ceiling or adjacent walls. Or when the gun is kicking up, I wouldn't be hitting the floor...I just don't find it to be intuitive.

[sinij]

Spray should not be random like its in BF2 - one bullet hits too high followed by another hitting too low. I shouldn't be able to side step someone with auto weapon and pistol them to death while they are trying to shoot at me.

[Teleku]

Day of Defeat actually had a real recoil system back in beta 2 (I think....).  Your gun actually jumped up with each shot.  How much drastically depended on the caliber of the gun and weather you were standing/crouching/laying when you shot.  I really liked it.  It had a steep learning curve cause it was really hard to shoot people, but once you got a feel for the guns you could actully get pretty good with them.  It felt realistic and took actuall skill to hit people.  But then they patched it into the standard "growing or shrinking hitbox" system that most everyody else uses, and now I can empty my tommy gun into somebody almost point blank and not kill them sometimes :(.  Ah well, Day of Defeat is still probably my favorite online shooter, though I liked the old recoil system better.

[Triforcer]

Has anyone overcame their Napster/I2hub/whatever indignant rage for long enough to actually tell us about the gameplay? 

[Furiously]

It could be robot jesus and I still wouldn't buy it.

[HaemishM]

My buddy at work bought it, and didn't give a shit about the spyware installed, despite being a paranoid motherfucker. He played it past midnight last night, which is strange for him, because he's usually in bed by 11 p.m. at the absolute latest on work nights.

[Triforcer]

My buddy at work bought it, and didn't give a shit about the spyware installed, despite being a paranoid motherfucker. He played it past midnight last night, which is strange for him, because he's usually in bed by 11 p.m. at the absolute latest on work nights.

Cool, all I need to know.  Merely being on the Internet and buying things on it results in the exact same data being collected, so I don't care.

[Miasma]

That's all you need to know?  That some guy you don't know stayed up an hour past his bedtime?  I see you put as much thought into your video game purchases as you do political affiliations.   

On a more serious note the main forum for bf2142 has the following threads in general discussion.  These are stickied threads in what should be a fanboy forum...

Sticky: If you are still experiencing Disconnect problems
Sticky: "2142 Sucks" - Consider before Posting
Sticky: Will you be patching your game? If so, *READ THIS*
Sticky: For those who can't log in...
Sticky: NO MORE adware/spyware threads - I refer you to...
Sticky: Demo Bugs
Sticky: 2142, Spyware and You.

It is a shitty game, full of bugs with the added bonus of in-game dynamic advertising and spyware.  I think you can download a demo if you still want to try it.

[Yegolev]

Damage Control, report to the engine room!

[littledude]

Must sleep....must sleep...

Holy shit, I pre-ordered it and got my veteran name reserver and since I bought it from EB I got an instance rank up (do both before installing the game).  DvD installed pretty quick, small patch to down load from EA (I don't use the EA downloaders so I have to go to the site and down load and install it).  Took about a hour to get the hang of it...and damn my sleep is screwed up!  I work nights anyway...come home at 0730 and played till 1100...then sleep till 1430 and get the kid and go do stuff.  Heck both my 10 year old and I have had a blast playing it.

[HaemishM]

It is a shitty game, full of bugs with the added bonus of in-game dynamic advertising and spyware.  I think you can download a demo if you still want to try it.

You could have just said it's an EA DICE game and that'd handle all your descriptors.

[sinij]

PR damage control 

WTS a BS review, cheap. WTB bank stick [1 charge].

[stray]

BTW, since 2142 is out of the question, what shooters are you guys playing atm?

[Strazos]

I'm not even playing any shooters ATM...back to playing my good old stand-by MU*.

[Yegolev]

I was thinking of firing up Far Cry again.

[Stephen Zepp]

The worst part about the whole thing is how LAZY it seems like these guys are about the program. An in-game advert program does not have to be connected to the Net at all times.

They're not looking to do a traditional wide-spectrum ad-dump.  They're looking to target ads directly towards you and whatever your browsing habits are.

Yeah, this is insidious, and instead of trying to block it everyone just needs to not buy the damned game.

I'm not in any way taking a "pro" position on this tech or it's use, but didn't anyone else ever say "damn that would be cool" when they saw the focused advertising in that damned Tom Cruise movie, uhh, can't remember it atm.

While of course collecting the data is going to be considered by some to be intrusive no matter how it's done, advertising in and of itself isn't a bad thing in my opinion....I actually do want to know about products that may interest me, and if I have to take advertising in any way, I'd much rather it be about things I'm interested in.

[stray]

There's enough advertising in the world as it is. I don't need to be reminded of products. Especially in games. That I pay for.

[eldaec]

Relying solely on google finding the testimony of 'random people on the internet', this appears to be just unecessarily wide legal ass-covering language. I gather the 'spyware' just takes a guess at what region you live in, and records when you play BF2142, then sends that information to the ad server so that you get ads in the right language. Naturally 'random guy on the internet' is not an unimpeachable source.

Has anyone found any actual analysis of what the software does?

Has anyone overcame their Napster/I2hub/whatever indignant rage for long enough to actually tell us about the gameplay? 

Random people on the internet say it is good.

[Azazel]

Ah well, Day of Defeat is still probably my favorite online shooter, though I liked the old recoil system better.

Damn, I forgot I have the whole HL2 shebang on this computer. I should give DoD another go sometime.

Buggy? Unfinished? What? From Dice/EA? I can't believe it!

[Big Gulp]

I'm not in any way taking a "pro" position on this tech or it's use, but didn't anyone else ever say "damn that would be cool" when they saw the focused advertising in that damned Tom Cruise movie, uhh, can't remember it atm.

Seek help, because that squicked me out more than the eyeball removal scene did.

[Miasma]

I'm not in any way taking a "pro" position on this tech or it's use, but didn't anyone else ever say "damn that would be cool" when they saw the focused advertising in that damned Tom Cruise movie, uhh, can't remember it atm.

That scene wasn't supposed to make you go "wow, cool" it was supposed to depict the very real possibility that advertising will get that aggressive, invasive and hyper-annoying.  I can't imagine what kind of head-space you are coming from that you would think that was cool.

[Yegolev]

I'm not in any way taking a "pro" position on this tech or it's use, but didn't anyone else ever say "damn that would be cool" when they saw the focused advertising in that damned Tom Cruise movie, uhh, can't remember it atm.

Seek help, because that squicked me out more than the eyeball removal scene did.

Siding with Big Gulp here.  Not cool and in fact very un-cool.  My wife and I probably aged to retirement after viewing that scene, decrying the rapid decline of our wonderful way of life.  "Shit, Johnny, I remember the Good Old Days when God-damn billboards didn't creep ya the fuck out by calling out yer fuckin' name and pushin' shitty products on ya based on how yer God-damn last medical exam came out."

In the future, old people will have incredibly foul mouths.

[HaemishM]

BTW, since 2142 is out of the question, what shooters are you guys playing atm?

I've been kicking some UT2k4 Onslaught during lunch at work lately. I'll occasionally play at night, but I'm mostly engrossed in FIFA 07 on the X-Box at home.