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[WayAbvPar]

Make sure Sauced lays in a goodly supply of sedatives now. Being a spectator is stressful 

"Don't look down. Don't look down.  Don't look left. Don't look left.  OMG I LOOKED."

[Signe]

Why would any one think Nebu is a dick?  He's about the most undicky person I've ever come across.  I don't mean that in a pervy way.  Or an unpervy way!  You know what I mean!  Shut up!   

[Nebu]

Why would any one think Nebu is a dick?  He's about the most undicky person I've ever come across.  I don't mean that in a pervy way.  Or an unpervy way!  You know what I mean!  Shut up!  

It was a joke from another thread.  No worries.

[Signe]

It was probably in politics or something, I guess.  Sometimes I think I miss all the fun but even when I see just the spill over in other threads, I think I'm smart not going in there.  Anyway, I just didn't want you to think I was calling you dickless which is probably even worse than being called a dick.  (at least for a man)

[Pennilenko]

Nebu's ex deserves a solid murdering. She doesn't sound very nice if he got stuck with all the bills.

[Nebu]

Nebu's ex deserves a solid murdering. She doesn't sound very nice if he got stuck with all the bills.

I got stuck with half.  Her loans went to pay tuition, mine were for childcare.  I consider it the cost of life's education... I don't have any anger toward her.  Still, it would be nice to have them gone, but I learned a lot in the process.

Like I tell my friends, you never really know who you married until you divorce them.  Seems to bring out the deep inner part of people when money is involved. 

[Ironwood]

Divorce isn't all about money though.  Lot of really, really bad emotions tied up in such a severance.

It's bound to bring out your inner asshole.

[Selby]

It's bound to bring out your inner asshole.

Especially if there is an in-law involved that likes to stir the pot and has an entitlement problem... don't ask me how I know...

[Yegolev]

What are the chances my wife will find out I set her ringtone as the Imperial March?

[Signe]

What are the chances my wife will find out I set her ringtone as the Imperial March?

Probably a decent chance.  Just imagine a nice snowy night, snuggled up on the sofa, and she digs in her hand bag for something and accidentally calls your number.  AAAAAWKWAAAARD!

[Merusk]

Her general ringtone or just one for yourself?  High on both counts, I imagine.

Speaking of Custom Ringtones.. my boss needs to change his.  Whenever his wife calls it plays some "Bow-chika bow-wow" riff.  He's forgotten to turn it off or set to vibrate in two divisional meetings so far, much to his very, very red-faced embarrassment.

[voodoolily]

Divorce isn't all about money though.  Lot of really, really bad emotions tied up in such a severance.

It's bound to bring out your inner asshole.

Confucius say: Alimony is bounty on the mutiny.

[voodoolily]

What are the chances my wife will find out I set her ringtone as the Imperial March?

Low, unless she calls you in front of herself. Like if you lose your phone in the house and she calls it to help you find it.

[Nebu]

What are the chances my wife will find out I set her ringtone as the Imperial March?

That's not even funny... that's just sad. 

[Sky]

It was probably in politics or something, I guess.  

The handegg thread in the sports forum.

On divorce: both my dad and grandfather got screwed hard in divorces, lost several houses and our family compound in the adirondacks. My fiancee gets upset when I mention a pre-nup, but wtf. What's the harm if you don't plan on fucking me over some day? Hell, she makes more salary than me :)

[NowhereMan]

Pre-nups are kind of weird in the sense that: If you're planning on living happily forever they shouldn't be an issue, they'll never have an effect. On the other hand it admits of the possibility that the relationship might fail, which means you're clearly not fully on board to be even able to contemplate that happening.

[Merusk]

Nah. People lie.  People who have something to gain from you lie even more.  Also, you never truly know someone or what they might do until a given situation arises. Additionally, people change over time so you don't know that your current significant other might, 20 years later, decide "Nah I'm gonna fuck the help, divorce the spouse and take everything."     Plus, some states are still set up to treat one sex better than the other when it comes to divorce and custody - even if that person is the one boozing it up and sleazing around.

If you have anything to lose, prenups make a hell of a lot of sense.

[Yegolev]

What are the chances my wife will find out I set her ringtone as the Imperial March?

That's not even funny... that's just sad. 

You think she's going to force-choke me?

[Sky]

must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke
must not make force-choking daffy joke

[Sky]

My fiancee just got in a ticketbastard email alerting her to the newest show in our cultural wasteland: Finding Nemo on Ice.

Having worked in several kitchens, I can't stop laughing. That's an awful name. Awfully funny.

[Nebu]

Incoming: 5 year old picture of Nemo sushi. 

[Pennilenko]

My mom just left me a voice mail telling me she has just had divorce number 8 and she got everything. She literally is evil. I hate how it is so easy for females to completely fuck over males using the system, nearly every time.

[Nebu]

Stupid men get what they deserve.  When you chose poorly, you deserve what you get. 

I deserve what I got.  I did it to myself.  Next time I'll choose better (or just stay single). 

[voodoolily]

It's true. I made sure Sauced knew what he was getting into by making him live with me for two years before marrying me. I'd been in two long-term relationships before him, but I was his first. Now at least if I turn out to be crazy, he got fair warning.

[Engels]

I don't think pre-nups are contradictory. Its realistic to say,'Yes, honey, I love you, but we've all read Lord of the Flies, so pucker up and sign."  Anyone may turn into a vulturous letch under the right circumstances.

Another thing that might help in the future? Don't date women who aren't 100% financially solvent on their own two feet. Its hard to resist the urge to go and become a 'caregiver' or a rescuer, but really, this is the 21st century already. We don't stone our wives for adultery, they don't get to be societal leeches either.

[Yegolev]

I made sure Sauced knew what he was getting into by making him live with me for two years before marrying me

If only this was adequate.

[Sky]

Moving this reply in here so I don't derail the pc build thread any further :)

Balance of air quality with cost savings is hard.  Of course, if you can harvest your own wood then the wood stove is ideal.

There's a whole cost:benefit analysis, heh. At the end I'm at (total newb), I get wood delivered split. I paid $75 a face cord for cherry, which is high end and the most I'd normally pay. But it's cherry (which is good wood to burn) and fully seasoned...and I got it very late in the season. I was only able to get 2 face cords of cherry, or 2/3ds a cord's worth. I bought a full cord of mixed woods (at $55/face or the going rate around here) that is almost full seasoned, so the btu is cut back and I'll have to get the chimney cleaned and inspected in January, maybe again in March depending. That's all I could swing this year, it's not enough for 24 hour burns.

Normally I'd get fully stocked on good wood closer to the going rate, maybe $65 or $70/face and season it myself, probably three full cords at maybe $210/cord. That's about the most expensive it should be if I never invest in any gear, $630 a winter. Running gas heat at 70F when I'm home (still not enough to take the chill off if I'm just sitting around gaming or reading and the fiancee is wearing sweaters and blankets), and 63F when I go to bed until I get home from work the next day, I spend around $1040 for gas and electricity (front area is heated by an oil-filled baseboard unit tied to a thermometer). So I'm in the black $410 a winter if I take the easiest route. Beyond the financial side, we get the upside of a nice crackling fire each evening, no worry of power outages, and most importantly, it's as warm as you would ever want it to be, you actually have to crack a window to cool it off a bit. So I'm saving money and not freezing my ass off all winter.

The next step I'll take is having logs delivered to my house and bucking and splitting myself. That'll cost me a chainsaw, fuel, and some time. But the cost goes way down and I enjoy the work and after the initial investment in the saw the maintenance isn't much. Once I get to that point I'll be building a woodshed and double seasoning, putting up wood two years ahead of time. Drier wood = more btu per log. And then I'd be in the black probably a couple hundred more a month in the winter, more than half of what I'd pay through the utility, though I don't have the log delivery prices handy since I wasn't pricing that this year locally.

Down the road a bit further, I'd like to get a 10+ acre woodlot to maintain. The bigger, the better, because I'd ideally like to sell off stumpage rights. With a 10 acre lot, I'd have to do most everything myself, but with a big lot, I could have whoever contracts for stumpage come in and take down trees for me, so I'd just have to buck and truck them (though I'd get a lot less for the stumpage at that point). That's how my grandfather did it when we had the family lot and he used to make out nicely. But even have to fell them I'd bet set because my truck is set up to take a winch on the bumper and I'd just need a trailer for hauling it back to the homestead.

Sorry, I love this stuff :) Reminds me of nice toasty winters and all the great woodstoves we've had, and crisp falls spent in the woods harvesting trees. My parent's house and our camp both had dual-fuel stoves, gas or wood, and we'd cook for free all winter long, too.

[Yegolev]

You make it sound like you are using a fireplace insert...?  Which is probably the same thing, more or less, as what I had growing up except it was one of those huge standalone deals with a pipe chimney.  With a pipe chimney you can just climb up on the roof and shove a round pipe-brush down to clean it.  The drawback was that my dad actually removed the damn thing every spring and moved it back in each fall, if you can imagine that.

My dad cut our own wood, which involved us going to some remote place in the woods and picking out a tree.   He usually split it on the site; you can fit more in the truck that way.  Even with three chainsaws, a maul and gas, it was practically free.

[Cyrrex]

I think I want to spend Christmas at uncle Sky's house.  That sounds cozy.  I hate my stupid, decorative natural gas fake wood stove.

[JWIV]

Make sure Sauced lays in a goodly supply of sedatives now. Being a spectator is stressful 

"Don't look down. Don't look down.  Don't look left. Don't look left.  OMG I LOOKED."

I was doing really good with the not looking right up to the point where the doctor said something about crowning and I forgot myself.

[Samwise]

I think I want to spend Christmas at uncle Sky's house.

I'm so ashamed.

[Cyrrex]

Make sure Sauced lays in a goodly supply of sedatives now. Being a spectator is stressful 

"Don't look down. Don't look down.  Don't look left. Don't look left.  OMG I LOOKED."

I was doing really good with the not looking right up to the point where the doctor said something about crowning and I forgot myself.

I think I did the same damn thing.  What idiot ever said childbirth was a beautiful thing anyway?  It's so unbelievably gross.

[Sky]

You make it sound like you are using a fireplace insert...? 

It's a standalone woodstove hooked into a masonry chimney. I just had the top rebuilt with brick. Works great with just the one "elbow". The stove is a 1977 Vermont Castings Vigilant, pretty advanced for its time with a secondary flame path to ignite the volatiles. The ones I grew up with were massive stoves, dual fuel as I mentioned, though the one at camp was propane. It was also an 8 burner + griddle monster with two ovens and a massive firebox.

[Yegolev]

I hate my stupid, decorative natural gas fake wood stove.

I have a gas fireplace and it is great.  But I don't use it to heat the house unless it is very cold.  Splitting wood sucks.

About the wood stove, if you don't have a blower installed you might want to check on it if your model allows it.  Air circulation by convection is less optimal than using a blower.

The ones I grew up with were massive stoves, dual fuel as I mentioned, though the one at camp was propane. It was also an 8 burner + griddle monster with two ovens and a massive firebox.

Those are awesome.  I want to heat my house with my oven.

[Signe]

Righ's family house is heated with their oven and fireplaces.  It's a big house and it's cold!  I lived for two winters in a place in Taos that was heated by a huge fireplace and I wasn't as cold.