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Merusk
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Not everyone navel-gazes as much as some of us do.
If you're a mother, it's actively discouraged. You know this from the horrible way your MIL treats you.
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Yegolev
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I have 4 years left to pay off my student loans
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
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Paelos
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Not everyone navel-gazes as much as some of us do.
If you're a mother, it's actively discouraged. You know this from the horrible way your MIL treats you.
Maybe it is navel-gazing but it still blows my mind that people can't manage to separate themselves from job or family labels. You were somebody long before you had a family and a job. Yet, somehow they forgot what. |
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schild
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Someone posted in a community I'm part of about a class she was taking. The instructor asked everyone to introduce themselves and to list three things about themselves, however, they could not mention their job, spouse or children at all. The three things had to be about them only. Apparently one woman had serious difficulties listing three things about herself that wasn't "my husband is.." or "my kids do..." and she got pissed off when called on it.
That blew my mind, because how hard is it to say simple stuff like "I enjoy seafood" or "I like to watch bad reality TV" when asked to list something about yourself?
It didn't blow your mind that someone who is a de facto peer on the internet was taking such a stupid fucking course? That's not the first thing you noticed? Is this the second grade? Some people are their jobs. Some people are their kids. That instructor is an ass waffle. |
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Maven
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HaemishM
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That was fucking hilarious. Also, fuck Office 365.
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Maven
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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Must be nice to just be able to quit working because your daughter points out what you missed in her life. Most people don't have the luxury.
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Nebu
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I have 4 years left to pay off my student loans
what Undergrad, Grad, and med school aren't cheap. Especially when you come from poverty and have to pay the bills yourself. I'm not even going to mention the loans I took out to help my ex pay for med school. |
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rattran
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I've been semi-retired my whole career. I can't fathom working as much as some of you people do. I mean, the same job, every day, 5 days a week? Seems like madness.
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Trippy
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schild
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Must be nice to just be able to quit working because your daughter points out what you missed in her life. Most people don't have the luxury.
Correct, that's a stupid fucking article. Look at this retardedly rich guy that made more than 50 middle-class families will over 3 generations of working people. He quit for his daughter! Fuck him in and fuck the people writing about him. |
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lamaros
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My parents own and run their own company. For my family and my dad especially this company has been completely part of our life. Though my dad always used to talk about retiring at 35, and could absolutely retire now, he will probably keep working forever, or at least be involved. Fundamentally this is because he enjoys working, not because he wouldn't have anything else to do with his time, etc.
I think this is reasonable and normal, but there's probably a big difference between being your own boss and doing your own thing to other jobs people won't retire from that don't necessarily give them as much back.
Also despite many attempts I've yet to find a similar relationship with work myself. But some people find a different relationship with it and its not necessarily a bad thing that those who hate half of ours to judge.
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lamaros
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Must be nice to just be able to quit working because your daughter points out what you missed in her life. Most people don't have the luxury.
He hasn't quit working, he has gone from not working for one an a half hours a day, to something else. After realising at 56 that the previous arrangement was unhealthy I wouldn't be surprised that his new healthy setup was still far more working hours than usual, just with more flexibility to go to soccer games... |
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Nebu
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Fuck him in and fuck the people writing about him.
This ^^ My mom was never around for my childhood because, as an uneducated woman, she had to work two jobs to raise 4 kids on her own with no child support from a deadbeat father. Fuck rich people feel-good stories. |
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Miasma
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As consolation she will probably grow up so warped by privilege that she will rue the day she handed him that list because it will mean she will only inherit one billion dollars instead of five. Worse yet with all this home time he will have more children and she will have to cruelly share the inheritance. Also, I bet her trophy wife mother fucking hates her now. This message was brought to you by cynicism. |
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Abagadro
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I just sit rocking back and forth saying "2035, 2035, 2035".
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Merusk
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That's not a trophy wife, that's a billionaire's wife with access to the best botox and plastic surgeons around. She's easily in her 50s, you can tell from the arms and hands. Trophy wives are 2nd wives in their late 20s/ early 30s. |
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Signe
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She kind of just looks like a normal woman wearing a horrible dress standing in front of something that looks equally as horrible as her dress. You'd think a billionaire wife could afford prettier dresses.
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Cheddar
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My life is my kids. My career is my hobby.
That being said, I have come to realize going full tilt on this impacts both. Working on hobbies, now. Gardening/fishing to start.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Miasma
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I just sit rocking back and forth saying "2035, 2035, 2035".
Holy crap that was some esoteric googling I had to do to figure out the joke. That's not a trophy wife, that's a billionaire's wife with access to the best botox and plastic surgeons around. She's easily in her 50s, you can tell from the arms and hands. Trophy wives are 2nd wives in their late 20s/ early 30s. Come on if you are goofy looking doofus who marries the head cheerleader after she finds out your net worth at the reunion that is still a trophy wife. She kind of just looks like a normal woman wearing a horrible dress standing in front of something that looks equally as horrible as her dress. You'd think a billionaire wife could afford prettier dresses.
That dress is worth a years worth of any of our mortgage/rent payments I bet. She is surprisingly hard to find out about via the internet. |
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Nebu
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My life is my kids. My career is my hobby.
That being said, I have come to realize going full tilt on this impacts both. Working on hobbies, now. Gardening/fishing to start.
Good for you man. You've certainly had your share of professional success. Time to give yourself a little free time. |
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Abagadro
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I just sit rocking back and forth saying "2035, 2035, 2035".
Holy crap that was some esoteric googling I had to do to figure out the joke. That is just my targeted date for retirement so not sure what joke I unintentionally made. |
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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Miasma
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Oh, he ran Pimco which has a bunch of Retirement2035 type funds, I assumed you were invested. Coincidence.
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Xanthippe
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I'm already retired, so to speak. I haven't worked since I was pregnant with my first. My husband enjoys working (thankfully) and has no plans to retire until he has to. He would like to go back to consulting after that, if he can. We're both in the AARP range.
I got to have an extended adolescence, having kids late in life (not that everyone has an extended adolescence, but I sure did). I've also become one of those boring people whose life is my family. I used to decry people who were like that, and thought it was a fate akin to death. (Obviously, I no longer think that).
My kids will be living at home while attending college, so they're going to be around for a few more years (youngest is still in high school). We're trying to avoid them having to take out any student loans as undergrads (I think it's criminal what we are doing as a society to our young adults by throwing easy credit at them that they can never get out from under, not even via bankruptcy.)
I have plenty of hobbies and interests, but my life has revolved around my children. If they have kids before I'm too old to enjoy them, I hope to be able to enjoy their kids and have a close relationship to them. Our parents both live(d) far enough away that we don't get to see them more than once or twice a year (inlaws are dead, mine are in their 80s). Ideally, I would like to live near enough but not with my children's families to see them regularly - assuming they don't marry assholes (and we don't become assholes).
My kids have profoundly changed my outlook on what's important in life. I suspect I am coming up to another profound change as they move on with their lives, but I'm having trouble seeing beyond it, frankly. Not dreading it, I just don't know what's going to come/what life will look like - for them and for us.
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schild
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Don't tell the modern woman any of that. They died in cyber battle, a battle that rages to this day, so you could work in safety next to men without fear of being called "chick," "babe," or whatever.
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pxib
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I'm with the "why would I keep working if I didn't have to?" crowd.
I gave up on dating and relationships after a series of terrible ones in back in my twenties. Now with no kids, no major responsibilities, no car, no cable, no expensive hobbies... I've got nowhere in particular to put money except into THE FUTURE. My government pension doesn't accept my retirement before I turn fifty, but I've always loved my job and can absolutely wait until then. Heck, I'll probably continue volunteering for the library once I leave. In the meantime I've learned how to draw well enough to make me happy, gotten back into playing the piano after I all but gave it up fifteen years ago, and I'm working on improving my writing.
Yeah it's an occasionally lonely little life, but the stress level stays super low and once I retire I'll have a lot of glorious free time to do... whatever I want.
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Xanthippe
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Don't tell the modern woman any of that. They died in cyber battle, a battle that rages to this day, so you could work in safety next to men without fear of being called "chick," "babe," or whatever.
Yes, yes, I know, believe me, I've lived the tedium from "A Woman Needs A Man Like A Fish Needs A Bicycle" to "All Mothers Are Working Women" - I even sometimes partly believed a lot of it, although not since I actually had kids. I love my life, and I don't identify with modern feminism (no doubt because I've been completely brainwashed by the patriarchy or something). I turned in my feminist card long ago, in favor of equality. I've always called women chicks (although I get a perverse relish out of it these days when I'm with certain siblings), and I pretty much can't stand male feminists any more than I can MRAs - two sides of the same coin as far as I'm concerned. (Fuck, did I just take a turn into Politics? If I did, move this message asap! although since I don't give a shit what other people think, I likely won't visit it there, but if this needs containment, go ahead!) |
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rattran
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I had to explain to a professional builder today that masonite is not a proper term for fiber cement board, that masonite is it's own thing entirely different. And have him get all shitty and tell me he's a professional and he knows what shit is called, and hardie panel fiber cement board is called masonite.
Plus, he was dressed like a hipster douchebag.
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Mandella
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I had to explain to a professional builder today that masonite is not a proper term for fiber cement board, that masonite is it's own thing entirely different. And have him get all shitty and tell me he's a professional and he knows what shit is called, and hardie panel fiber cement board is called masonite.
Plus, he was dressed like a hipster douchebag.
Might be time to get a new builder there Rattran. In my experience that sort of ignorance can cost *you* a whole bunch of money. |
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Lantyssa
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Xan, as long as you're happy, keep on doing what you are.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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rattran
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I had to explain to a professional builder today that masonite is not a proper term for fiber cement board, that masonite is it's own thing entirely different. And have him get all shitty and tell me he's a professional and he knows what shit is called, and hardie panel fiber cement board is called masonite.
Plus, he was dressed like a hipster douchebag.
Might be time to get a new builder there Rattran. In my experience that sort of ignorance can cost *you* a whole bunch of money. This wasn't someone I hired, this was the site manager for the fair I am doing booth repairs at. The man in charge of vetting all the projects, checking work, doing all the fair's construction, and I suspect the 'self-inspection compliance' for building code stuffs. |
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Merusk
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I had to explain to a professional builder today that masonite is not a proper term for fiber cement board, that masonite is it's own thing entirely different. And have him get all shitty and tell me he's a professional and he knows what shit is called, and hardie panel fiber cement board is called masonite.
Plus, he was dressed like a hipster douchebag.
Might be time to get a new builder there Rattran. In my experience that sort of ignorance can cost *you* a whole bunch of money.  There is no *might* about it. Tell him he's fired and go find someone who knows the difference between fiber cement board and pressed wood. Wtf is he going to put masonite behind your shower or on your exterior? Aaghh. |
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RhyssaFireheart
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Anyone want to give me a few grand so I can take out this GODDAMN WALNUT TREE THAT'S TRYING TO DESTROY MY HOUSE, ONE FUCKING WALNUT AT A TIME?!?!?!?!?!
Seriously, sounds like someone's hitting the roof, desk.. hell, the ground... with hammers every time a walnut falls.
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schild
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Anyone want to give me a few grand so I can take out this GODDAMN WALNUT TREE THAT'S TRYING TO DESTROY MY HOUSE, ONE FUCKING WALNUT AT A TIME?!?!?!?!?!
Seriously, sounds like someone's hitting the roof, desk.. hell, the ground... with hammers every time a walnut falls.
Walnut tree is less important than the f13 server. Which I will now call Walnut.Tree when I set it up. |
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