Useless Conversation

[WayAbvPar]

Just switch to Oyster Flakes.

[Sky]

Someone said they were bringing in turkey cookies tomorrow.

At first I was kind of grossed out, because I thought they meant cookies made out of turkey. Then I was all, "with gravy for icing?" and someone said "dipped in mashed potatoes?" and I got all salivating.

And then realized they just meant turkey-shaped sugar cookies. Now it's a let-down.

[Paelos]

Turkey cookies definitely will not stop the urge to whack it, per Reverend Graham.

[Merusk]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

[Nebu]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

I agree! 

[Lianka]

Went off of gluten about 5 years ago and haven't taken a prilosec since.  Every once in a while I'll have some indigestion with tomatoes or something, but a single Tums will clear me up.  I do that about once every 3 months.  

As far as my doctor was concerned, I was going to be on Prevacid for life.  Then I changed doctors.  She suggested I go off of it, and take a Gaviscon whenever I had a flare up.  Acid reflux issue gone, in my case, without dietary changes!  

[Rasix]

My father-in-law probably spent 20+ hours last week on various support lines trying to fix his internet connection.  He ended up getting a new router and new wireless card. I likely could have gotten to the same place in less than an hour.

He spent another 4 hours (10pm to 2am, no joke) talking to Comcast support trying to get his outlook to work.  They could not get it to work. Wife finally tells me that he did not want to ask me for whatever reason.  I ask him to bring over the laptop and 15 minutes later it's working.

I guess they think that's what I do for a living and asking me to fix their computer would be a giant breach of etiquette.    They took care of my son while we were at work for the first 2 and a half years of his life.  I CAN SPARE AN HOUR.  

On the other hand, I bet my Christmas present is going to be pretty kick ass this year.

[Signe]

Whack what?

[WayAbvPar]

My father-in-law probably spent 20+ hours last week on various support lines trying to fix his internet connection.  He ended up getting a new router and new wireless card. I likely could have gotten to the same place in less than an hour.

He spent another 4 hours (10pm to 2am, no joke) talking to Comcast support trying to get his outlook to work.  They could not get it to work. Wife finally tells me that he did not want to ask me for whatever reason.  I ask him to bring over the laptop and 15 minutes later it's working.

I guess they think that's what I do for a living and asking me to fix their computer would be a giant breach of etiquette.    They took care of my son while we were at work for the first 2 and a half years of his life.  I CAN SPARE AN HOUR.  

On the other hand, I bet my Christmas present is going to be pretty kick ass this year.

Heh. I had something similar with my in-laws. They resisted getting broadband for approximately ever...at least until the grandkids started showing up with Kindle Fires that thirst for WiFi. They had an old PC they purchased a year or two previously but didn't even have plugged in, plus the setup kit from Comcast. Took me a couple of hours to get things going (their BIOS battery was dead, but it seemed to revive after I left the system plugged in), but in the end it was actually very simple. Now they think I am some kind of technowizard  

[Pennilenko]

Whack what?

A-mole

[Cheddar]

Whack what?

sigh

[Samwise]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

You have it easy.  Back in my day, if you held down the mouse button on one Mac, every Mac on the network would lock up because they were all waiting to get a packet back from your Mac and your Mac was waiting for you to let go of the button and who needs multitasking anyway?

[Abagadro]

Good god the press in this country.  Just read a story about something I know a lot about and counted up at least five straight up factual errors and one completely inaccurate conclusion. The thing was maybe 20 sentences long in total. 

[Ironwood]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

You have it easy.  Back in my day, if you held down the mouse button on one Mac, every Mac on the network would lock up because they were all waiting to get a packet back from your Mac and your Mac was waiting for you to let go of the button and who needs multitasking anyway?

Wat

[Paelos]

Good god the press in this country.  Just read a story about something I know a lot about and counted up at least five straight up factual errors and one completely inaccurate conclusion. The thing was maybe 20 sentences long in total. 

That's why when any article summarizes a document or a fact, I stop reading that article and look at the actual document. It's so often wrong or misleading it's laughable.

[rattran]

I was listening to an hour long NPR interview of the woman behind the new cartoon network show Stephen Universe, and the man doing the interview obviously had no idea anything about animation. You'd think you'd at least learn the basic ideas before going in to do the interview. Nope.

[Paelos]

News isn't about being right anymore. It's about being fast and popular.

[Yegolev]

Just like high school.  And whacking it.

[WayAbvPar]

Good god the press in this country.  Just read a story about something I know a lot about and counted up at least five straight up factual errors and one completely inaccurate conclusion. The thing was maybe 20 sentences long in total. 

Yep. There was a fatal car accident about 1/2 mile from my house last week. When I read the news story, they got the name of the street wrong (directional was incorrect), and the direction of travel (both of which would be completely apparent if they had even bothered to look at a map). It is obvious that 'reporters' are nothing more than information aggregators these days. No one is doing the legwork to verify anything.

[ghost]

I love going to the storage unit and there were a bunch of guys out in the parking lot waving around a revolver.....

 

[Father mike]

I was listening to an hour long NPR interview of the woman behind the new cartoon network show Stephen Universe, and the man doing the interview obviously had no idea anything about animation. You'd think you'd at least learn the basic ideas before going in to do the interview. Nope.

Yeah, Tom Ashbrook (On Point) is like that.  If it's a topic he's interested in, then you're going to get a really good interview.  But when he gives no fucks, it's screamingly obvious.

[Yegolev]

Wife got held up in traffic yesterday as the Olympic Torch made its way past my local barbecue joint.  Why the shit is the Olympic Torch in Dallas, GA?  I suppose they want to be run down by a lifted pickup with a rebel flag flying out the back, after which the meth-head driving it would light a cigarette using it before he is arrested.

[Nebu]

Why the shit is the Olympic Torch in Dallas, GA? 

The better question would be "why are YOU in Dallas, GA?" 

[WayAbvPar]

He obliquely mentioned it in his post.

meth

[Paelos]

I always figured Yeg cooked meth. Now we know.

[Morat20]

Anyone here know anything about AC, ductworks, and mold?

Because while I agree with (1) Mold in my ducts and (2) Crappy leaking ductwork that has to be 100% replaced I am not entirely sold on the (3) Replace plenum, coils, furnace too part.

[Merusk]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

You have it easy.  Back in my day, if you held down the mouse button on one Mac, every Mac on the network would lock up because they were all waiting to get a packet back from your Mac and your Mac was waiting for you to let go of the button and who needs multitasking anyway?

Nope, not easy.  See, Macs seem to have a fundimental issue saving to networks.  So bad that the default position of all Mac applications we're using is, "Don't save to a network, what are you thinking?"

Yeah, saving a production artwork file for graphics on the side of a hotel with a 1gb .tiff to local and then copying it over to the network every time someone else has to work on it isn't a productive workflow.

And of course Graphic Designers pitch a fucking fit if you say, "we need to put you on a Windows machine. Adobe works just as well there and doesn't have these issues." 

"NOOO I HAVE to have a MAC! This is the Professional standard!"

[HaemishM]

"NOOO I HAVE to have a MAC! This is the Professional standard!"

Tell them "Welcome to post-1998" and "Here's your fucking Windows machine, ArtFag!"

[Sky]

See, Macs seem to have a fundamental issue saving to networks. 

wat

[Sky]

Oh, fun update on what I did during staff development day:

I got to be the active shooter in a drill! Automatic nerf dart rifle and backup pistol, yell and chase my co-workers and generally stalk everyone. So awesome.

On the other hand, nobody was surprised I was the shooter and management picked me as 'the obvious choice'.

Hmm.

Also, using a fire extinguisher; 25 people on a timed test. 2nd place 12 seconds, 3rd place 15 seconds, most were 17-30+ seconds. Me? 8 seconds bitches.

[Samwise]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

You have it easy.  Back in my day, if you held down the mouse button on one Mac, every Mac on the network would lock up because they were all waiting to get a packet back from your Mac and your Mac was waiting for you to let go of the button and who needs multitasking anyway?

Nope, not easy.  See, Macs seem to have a fundimental issue saving to networks.  So bad that the default position of all Mac applications we're using is, "Don't save to a network, what are you thinking?"

Yeah, saving a production artwork file for graphics on the side of a hotel with a 1gb .tiff to local and then copying it over to the network every time someone else has to work on it isn't a productive workflow.

And of course Graphic Designers pitch a fucking fit if you say, "we need to put you on a Windows machine. Adobe works just as well there and doesn't have these issues."  

"NOOO I HAVE to have a MAC! This is the Professional standard!"

You should use a cross-platform centralized version control system or something.  

[Rasix]

Shill.

[Trippy]

Fuck Macs on a network environment.  That is all.

You have it easy.  Back in my day, if you held down the mouse button on one Mac, every Mac on the network would lock up because they were all waiting to get a packet back from your Mac and your Mac was waiting for you to let go of the button and who needs multitasking anyway?

Nope, not easy.  See, Macs seem to have a fundimental issue saving to networks.  So bad that the default position of all Mac applications we're using is, "Don't save to a network, what are you thinking?"

Yeah, saving a production artwork file for graphics on the side of a hotel with a 1gb .tiff to local and then copying it over to the network every time someone else has to work on it isn't a productive workflow.

And of course Graphic Designers pitch a fucking fit if you say, "we need to put you on a Windows machine. Adobe works just as well there and doesn't have these issues."  

"NOOO I HAVE to have a MAC! This is the Professional standard!"

You should use a cross-platform centralized version control system or something.  

Yeah Github is awesome

[Merusk]

See, Macs seem to have a fundamental issue saving to networks. 

wat

Adobe's official position, apparently backed-up by other research that Apple doesn't support standard workflow of "save as" to a network.  The preferred method of saving from a Mac is save locally, then copy to network.  Do not "save as" in an application.

Not totally my headache because I'm not the network guy, but a headache because the folks having the problem in Adobe products don't understand/ accept 'this is a root Mac issue, not something we can resolve.'  

Seems like nonsense to me, with Macs being Linux-based these days but I haven't the foggiest.   It's definitely an issue in Adobe softwares and you can find references on lots of those support forums to this problem.

Then there's the accounting software, archiving software and email sync problems I hear the guys going on about.  Only way around those is to have mac users use a VM windows environment.

You should use a cross-platform centralized version control system or something.  

I've only been hearing about this for about 2 weeks now, but I *think* this was tried back in June/ July and the problem was the time it took to distribute the updated versions was unacceptable.  I know I've heard Mercurial referenced a few times in the discussions as I was working.

Anything less than "instant" is nonsense in a production environment, a 10 second delay is deemed unacceptable much less 1-2 mins.   If I hit "save" then after the save is finished the person right next to me must be able to open and see that version right away, not after the DVC updates.  I've heard them mention problems with saving and files not showing up on the network for 5-10 mins., which is clownshoes. Again not my area of responsibility so I'm not fully up to speed on the whys of that one.

[Sky]

Ah. I haven't run into that, but I don't think anyone has used our one computer with the Adobe Suite in a couple years. We save to the file server all the time.

Random corrupt files, sure. 

And I had a nice mac rant today when I couldn't plug a thunderbolt laptop into an RGB projector because the thunderbolt to DVI doesn't use a standard DVI (doesn't accept the 4 pins around the blade portion). So I tried to plug in a mini with whatever fucking adapter they decided to use instead of hdmi/dvi and guess what? Same non-standard DVI. Our projector cart has about 8 adapters for the mac, only 1 ever gets used with pc laptops (the RGB-DVI).

Blah. I mostly like the macs, though. If they'd slow down forced obsolescence a bit.

Email sync, yes. Since we went from hosted email to THE CLOUD (gmail). All kinds of sync issues now, was fine before. And our accountant refuses to use mac-compatible software, I have her a pc...and she refuses to evaluate new account software so I didn't issue her the Win7 she got last year for an upgrade, it's a print management station, screw 'er. If you don't want to help yourself, I'm not going to sweat it. We use VMWare for a few things, it's pretty awesome these days though all the mac users get confused as hell about using it. I love it and started running it on a second monitor.

/blab