Useless Conversation

[Nebu]

That's what makes tea taste so good.

I will never understand the whole liking coffee/tea thing.  NEVER.  

On the LDS front, I had a lovely interview at a liberal arts university in Utah.  I nearly laughed myself silly fielding question after question probing to find out if I was LDS or not.  I was frustratingly ambiguous just to see how far they would go with it. 

[IainC]

I will never understand the whole liking coffee/tea thing.  NEVER.

To be fair to you, you live in the US which considers Lipton's an acceptable substitute for actual tea. A good Assam (TGFOP or better) is a thing of beauty.

[Nebu]

To be fair to you, you live in the US which considers Lipton's an acceptable substitute for actual tea. A good Assam (TGFOP or better) is a thing of beauty.

I've tasted very good tea as a guest at a number of places.  I had to choke the crap down to be polite.  I'm just not a leaf juice type of guy. 

[ghost]

It wasn't that subtle surely?

I had to google it. Property. I see now.

 

[Paelos]

To be fair, I'm terrible at understand terrible jokes.

[ghost]

That's okay.  I've just never used the facepalm and wanted to test it out.   

I used to like tea, but figured out that it was simply a vehicle to get caffeine into my body.  Now that I'm caffeine free I have no interest in it.

[Minvaren]

I've tasted very good tea as a guest at a number of places.  I had to choke the crap down to be polite.  I'm just not a leaf juice type of guy. 

[ghost]

Well, I guess it's on.  I get to move out of one of my offices this weekend because the jackass landlord (who I bought the practice from) won't fix the mold issues in the building.  Whee.   

[IainC]

Well, I guess it's on.  I get to move out of one of my offices this weekend because the jackass landlord (who I bought the practice from) won't fix the mold issues in the building.  Whee.   

Do you have a dog? This is important.

[Nebu]

Well, I guess it's on.  I get to move out of one of my offices this weekend because the jackass landlord (who I bought the practice from) won't fix the mold issues in the building.  Whee.   

You're trying to summon Nerf, aren't you?

[ghost]

No.  I would love to avoid litigation, but I suspect it's going to go that direction, particularly if this hurts my business, which it will. 

I can post some pictures of my dogs, however.  They're pretty cute.

[Samwise]

As your attorney, I advise you to begin stockpiling guns and ammunition as soon as possible.

[Xanthippe]

No.  I would love to avoid litigation, but I suspect it's going to go that direction, particularly if this hurts my business, which it will. 

The only winners are going to be the lawyers.

Why won't your jackass landlord fix the mold problems?  Isn't that more or less a slam dunk to get out of the lease?

[Nebu]

If you're ambitious, a TSP/Bleach solution will take care of the problem.  That is if you don't mind scrubbing and repainting.  

Alternatively, you could treat it like halitosis.   

[WayAbvPar]

As your attorney, I advise you to begin stockpiling guns and ammunition as soon as possible.

Don't forget the quart of ether.

[NiX]

As your attorney, I advise you to begin stockpiling guns and ammunition as soon as possible.

Don't forget the quart of ether.

Also be sure to inform your local law enforcement that you're doing so. It's always good to just let them know, catch up and keep in touch.

[ghost]

If you're ambitious, a TSP/Bleach solution will take care of the problem.  That is if you don't mind scrubbing and repainting.  

Alternatively, you could treat it like halitosis.   

Apparently it has to be remediated by a company that specializes in such processes or it won't be OSHA compliant. 

Here's a photo of the dogs:

[HaemishM]

What an utter bunch of fucking wank.

Now you understand why I think Mitt Romney cannot get elected. I put Mormons on the same crazy bus as Scientologists - but at least the Mormons are mostly nice people (if you aren't gay).

[WayAbvPar]

Mormons seem Stepford-nice to me. It is like the facade is hiding a volcano of crazy just waiting to bubble out.

[Xanthippe]

My cousin joined the LDS church a few years before she died (at the age of 44 or something ridiculously young - see where Munchausens gets you?).  At her funeral, the church members brought food, cleaned her house, spruced up her yard, and generally threw a very nice funeral party for her.  I was quite impressed with the community.

My Mormon-apostate friend tells me, however, there is another side to this - it is required by the church.  But on the other hand, why even have a church unless people have to do things with the church or for church members?  (Honest question - I was raised agnostic, and have only visited churches rarely.)

The Mormons haven't given up on my friend though, they continue to visit her regularly to attempt to bring her back into the fold.

[Samwise]

My Mormon-apostate friend tells me, however, there is another side to this - it is required by the church.  But on the other hand, why even have a church unless people have to do things with the church or for church members?  (Honest question - I was raised agnostic, and have only visited churches rarely.)

I'd actually quite enjoy discussing this, as would others here, I'm sure, but I think you'll need to go start a thread in Politics for it.  

[Paelos]

The only problem with Mormons is they are not up-front at all about what they believe. That's pretty much it. They are generally nice to others as part of missions or whatever, and their communities can get a little insulated and crazy.

[ghost]

I think there is a dirty underbelly to the mormon community that they never talk about.  They're consistently furtive when discussing anything to do with the inner workings of the religion.  Then there's the mandatory tithing business.

[Abagadro]

I could have a looooooooong conversation about the LDS Church.  I'm an "apostate" and my family (and wife's) goes back to the very first Mormons converted by Joseph Smith in upstate New York.  As in, the first couple of hundred Mormons (wife is descendant of Brigham Young).

On the alcohol thing, it isn't even that they think it will have an effect on them after one drink. They think it is actively evil and even proximity corrupts. They passed a law last year that in restaurants bartenders cannot mix drinks in front of people and bottles of alcohol cannot be displayed. So new restaurants have to build a sorta bat-cave for bartenders where they can't be seen by the patrons mixing drinks. It's bizarre.

[JWIV]

The Mormons haven't given up on my friend though, they continue to visit her regularly to attempt to bring her back into the fold.

It never stops.  My guess is they track you through public records, since they've followed me through at least 2 moves when I've bought a house.

[Abagadro]

They have very good record keeping and give people "callings" to basically track and pester people. I had a call on my CELL PHONE out of the blue about a year ago from some old lady asking if there was "anything they could do to get me back".

[HaemishM]

Any of you guys with Mormon-y stories, I'd love to hear them, but yeah, you should probably drift on over to Politics if you want to continue in this vein.

[Strazos]

I'll ask here rather than starting a new thread:

Have a free Monday afternoon/evening, Tuesday morning/afternoon in NYC. Fishing for activity suggestions, as I'm up there solo for work before my consultations and flight at JFK in the evening.

[ghost]

I could have a looooooooong conversation about the LDS Church.  I'm an "apostate" and my family (and wife's) goes back to the very first Mormons converted by Joseph Smith in upstate New York.  As in, the first couple of hundred Mormons (wife is descendant of Brigham Young).

On the alcohol thing, it isn't even that they think it will have an effect on them after one drink. They think it is actively evil and even proximity corrupts. They passed a law last year that in restaurants bartenders cannot mix drinks in front of people and bottles of alcohol cannot be displayed. So new restaurants have to build a sorta bat-cave for bartenders where they can't be seen by the patrons mixing drinks. It's bizarre.

That's not what all the expatriate jack mormons said after their fifth beer when I was interviewing for residencies.  

you should probably drift on over to Politics if you want to continue in this vein.

But it's religion, not politics.   

[Abagadro]

That's what made the jack mormons.

[Selby]

Ah the Mormons... we were required to study them in bible study in church to "know what evil can be" along with numerous other religions.  I had several good friends who were hardcore into the church and every time they invited me to a party it was practically like a middle school party with people chugging Mountain Dew and chips, except everyone was 24+ years old.  I had some interesting conversations with quite a few of them, and it's interesting to challenge people's beliefs to see if they are serious about it or just regurgitating things they've been told all their lives.

[Viin]

For you tea people: The Strawberry Black Tea by St Dalfour is really good. A touch of clear Stevia to sweeten it, yum.

[Sand]

I could have a looooooooong conversation about the LDS Church.  I'm an "apostate" and my family (and wife's) goes back to the very first Mormons converted by Joseph Smith in upstate New York.  As in, the first couple of hundred Mormons (wife is descendant of Brigham Young).

On the alcohol thing, it isn't even that they think it will have an effect on them after one drink. They think it is actively evil and even proximity corrupts. They passed a law last year that in restaurants bartenders cannot mix drinks in front of people and bottles of alcohol cannot be displayed. So new restaurants have to build a sorta bat-cave for bartenders where they can't be seen by the patrons mixing drinks. It's bizarre.

Don't know about the rest of Utah but Salt Lake City repealed/abolished that law shortly before I visited back imearly August. The convention and tourism board were pretty happy.

[Abagadro]

Yes, please tell me more about stuff that happens where I live.  Three years ago, Utah got rid of a minor thing where they needed a small glass divider at the end of the bar  that drinks had to go around (i.e. no direct service over the bar).  The Leg then passed what I am talking about last year which is far more draconian.  SLC can't do anything about it because it is a state law.

EDIT: grammar

[MuffinMan]

Back from Big Bend. No snakebites to report but did get accosted by a ranger for having an open bottle of wine in the hatchback of the car.

Pictures are not awesome enough for the other threads so I shall put a few here. It's hard to get a sense of scale when photographing mountains and canyons with a cell phone.