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Reply #210 on: December 15, 2006, 01:59:54 PM

I'm not so sure Barca/Liverpool at Barca is going to be a good game. Have you seen Liverpool's away form? Against a team with any competence whatsoever, they are dreadful, listless and scattershot. They play with all the passion of corpse prostitutes. If they play at Barca like they did at Man U or Arsenal, the game will be over quick and will be a right fucking embarassment.

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Reply #211 on: December 15, 2006, 08:21:36 PM

That 4-0 pasting Barca gave to Club America this week in the  World Club Championships was an embarrassment, Liverpool's form will hold on the first leg. I think they lose 1-0, which would put them in great position for the return visit.
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Reply #212 on: December 16, 2006, 05:33:00 PM

I'm not so sure Barca/Liverpool at Barca is going to be a good game. Have you seen Liverpool's away form? Against a team with any competence whatsoever, they are dreadful, listless and scattershot. They play with all the passion of corpse prostitutes. If they play at Barca like they did at Man U or Arsenal, the game will be over quick and will be a right fucking embarassment.

Seven goals from the last two away games with none conceded. The away form sillyness is behind them.

In competitive football they've only lost matches away to the Buccaneers, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bolton, and Everton this season. Before the season started, if you had to make a list of 5 matches they'd be likely to lose, those 5 would have been it.

It hasn't been great, but people overplay the issue.

And they remain undefeated in 25 at Anfield of course, where the more important second leg gets played.

Barca remain favourites. But writing Liverpool off would be silly.

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Reply #213 on: December 17, 2006, 09:00:42 AM

Barca got upset by Inter in the World Club Championship A great victory for the boys from Brazil.


Spurs scored away from home! 2-1 over Man city puts them in 7th now. :)
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Reply #214 on: December 18, 2006, 03:41:57 AM

I saw that, a lucky sclaff from Tom Huddlestone won it for them  :-D

All 3 of Chelsea's goals were amazing, though the last one from Drogba only went in because the keeper was bunged some money not to even try to save it.
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Reply #215 on: December 18, 2006, 02:09:10 PM

I'm not so sure Barca/Liverpool at Barca is going to be a good game. Have you seen Liverpool's away form? Against a team with any competence whatsoever, they are dreadful, listless and scattershot. They play with all the passion of corpse prostitutes. If they play at Barca like they did at Man U or Arsenal, the game will be over quick and will be a right fucking embarassment.

Seven goals from the last two away games with none conceded. The away form sillyness is behind them.

Against Fulham and Charlton. That's hardly Barca level quality, and those parks are hardly the bastions that Nou Camp is.

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In competitive football they've only lost matches away to the Buccaneers, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bolton, and Everton this season. Before the season started, if you had to make a list of 5 matches they'd be likely to lose, those 5 would have been it.

Which is where my pessimism comes from. The away losses they've had have been against good or really good teams. Barca is at worst a good team, at best a really good team. Liverpool's form against good teams away has been dreadful. I'm hoping that yes, they have indeed turned a corner, what with Gerrard and Bellamy scoring and Kuyt and Xabi Alonso playing just as well if not getting on the scoreboard. You have to remember I'm a Cubs fan, we live on the broken dreams of tomorrow.

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Reply #216 on: December 18, 2006, 02:29:09 PM

A cubs fan like you should really support Spurs, they're pain and suffering and  frustration without  the constant threat of relegation that feels unamerican. :D

I believe the wife picked me up a 2007 home kit for Christmas. I hope.
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Reply #217 on: December 18, 2006, 02:41:51 PM

Those pasty pastel blue Spurs uniforms irk me more than they should.

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Reply #218 on: December 18, 2006, 05:01:58 PM

They should stick with their  brown and gold third kits ;)

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Reply #219 on: December 19, 2006, 01:34:33 AM

A cubs fan like you should really support Spurs, they're pain and suffering and  frustration without  the constant threat of relegation that feels unamerican. :D

I'm not sure you can lay claim to pain and suffering after so many years in mid table security. Most Spurs fans I know prefer to refer to the whole experience as 'treading water, but with style'.

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Reply #220 on: December 25, 2006, 05:02:05 PM

Looking forward to Liverpool getting bushwhacked, I hate that team...

Nothing else to add really don't have FSC anymore so I haven't seen too many games.

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Reply #221 on: December 26, 2006, 07:59:23 AM

Reading Drawing with Chelsea at Stamford bridge  gives me no end of happiness.

Spurs pick up another three points from Villa. A nice christmas gift to be sure. :) Makes up for that  piss poor perfarmance at  St James, kinda.
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Reply #222 on: January 01, 2007, 12:54:41 PM

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Reply #223 on: January 02, 2007, 09:30:55 AM

Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
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You'll never walk alone.

Yeah, it was a good week for Liverpool footer. Beat Tottenham on the trot, spank the shit out of Bolton at Anfield. And they looked good doing it. Meanwhile, Chelsea has a draw with Reading and even Man. U. has a draw. LOVELY.

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Reply #224 on: January 02, 2007, 11:42:02 AM

On a side note, setanta sport on itvn is much happiness for a person with comcast and too many trees for satellite.

Got to watch Spurs draw Pompey, and watched the triple header on Boxing day.
Currently I'm just hoping they get to play in Europe next year.
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Reply #225 on: January 02, 2007, 02:25:16 PM

Setanta Sports really is luv. Matching that with Fox Soccer Channel means if I want, I can get just about any EPL game there is, plus I get Champions League and Scottish Premier League games as well. Throw in GolTV and I get Bundesliga and La Liga, which almost always has my Spainish and German teams each weekend. I Tivo enough football most weeks to take up every night of the week.

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Reply #226 on: January 02, 2007, 02:54:57 PM

The fixture run from here is ...

Arsenal (Home - FA Cup)
Arsenal (Home - League Cup)
Watford (Away - EPL)
Chelsea (Home - EPL)
West Ham (Away - EPL)
Everton (Home - EPL)

There could also be an FA cup 4th round and 2 league cup semis in there.

I'd really like to be playing chelsea tomorrow while they are still shit, but anyway, it'll be interesting to finally get a decent challenge to Liverpool's 16 month unbeaten league run at Anfield.

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Reply #227 on: January 03, 2007, 09:16:25 AM

Chelsea really has been pretty porous with John Terry out. That Boulahrouz fucker is just awful. I still can't figure out for the life of me why Wayne Bridge isn't being used more, because I think he's better than most of their back line outside of Cole and Terry. Is he just not a center back?

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Reply #228 on: January 03, 2007, 10:11:22 AM

He's considered a left back - I don't remember ever seeing him play centre back - though he couldn't be any worse than anyone in any position for Chelsea over the last fortnight.

EDIT: The other problem with playing Bridge is that he doesn't appear to be nearly enough of an asshole to play for Chelsea regularly.
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Reply #229 on: January 10, 2007, 11:44:17 AM

Fulham picks up Clint Dempsey, in a record contract for an American.

McBride, Bocanegra, Dempsey,  I think they should just make it official and  call themselves Fulham USA. I've liked their play in the matches I've seen. I've been fortunate to miss the games where they just  wander out on the pitch and look semi conscious. 


It's kinda EPL: Beckham is done at Real, in the least surprising  news of the new year.

Odds on his transfer to various clubs  have been changed, currently  any MLS Club is leading at 6/4.

I wonder if the bookies would give me some love if I Narrowed it down to the LA Galaxy?

Newcastle was 8/1, Spurs 10/1

Inter Milan was 12-1 but they just announced that they had  zero interest in  Becks.

There's a 4 year / $36 million contract for him at LA that's been offered. Fox News and Sky Sports announce it's a done deal, but I've heard nothing else.
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Reply #230 on: January 10, 2007, 12:47:28 PM

Wow, what the fuck happened to David Beckham? I mean, sure he nonced about the World Cup like the Fat Brando, providing only token efforts for anything but set pieces, but shit. Wasn't he the "best player in the world!!!!" at one time? Now he's likely heading to the MLS? For an English Footballer married to a Spice Girl, that's got to be a blow to the pride.

Luis Garcia's popped a cruciate ligament and is done for the season. Not that he was the king of consistency, but he was decent at times. Liverpool really needs to be in the market for a decent midfield wing player.

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Reply #231 on: January 10, 2007, 02:08:50 PM

There's more to it than just a footie contract.

Phil Anschutz  wants to promote all things Beckham. The Beckham academies, the clothing (with Adidas and others), the movies and the whole thing.

We're talking hundreds of Millions of Dollars when it's all done. The fact that Becks didn't run across the atlantic on his tiptoes to sign the deal package is as much a testament to his pride as anything.



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Reply #232 on: January 10, 2007, 04:26:50 PM

Wow, what the fuck happened to David Beckham? I mean, sure he nonced about the World Cup like the Fat Brando, providing only token efforts for anything but set pieces, but shit. Wasn't he the "best player in the world!!!!" at one time?

Nope he never was.

However for a few years there at Man Utd he was a damn fine player in a great team.
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Reply #233 on: January 10, 2007, 04:58:36 PM

Nope he never was.

However for a few years there at Man Utd he was a damn fine player in a great team.

I think that's exactly it. He was always a good player, but not on the level to shine through as a world class, game-turning player if he was mired on the field with 10 other mediocre players (Real Madrid currently). Without the rest of the team to cover for him as a whole, his luster fades a bit. I still think he's a great player mind you, but he was never in the same class as the greats. His marketing machine and star power convinced him and several others otherwise. I wonder if spending three years on and off the bench at Madrid have permanently stunted his game, or if he would improve again given enough playing time.
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Reply #234 on: January 11, 2007, 03:17:59 AM

As others have said, Beckham was a good player 4 years ago.

He was an excellent crosser of the ball without enough pace or dribbling ability to be world class on the wing, and he's a great short passer without enough presence, footballing intelligence, or tackling ability to be world class in the middle of the park.

I never really understood how he got so famous.

His free kicks look good on TV I guess. See: Roberto Carlos.

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Reply #235 on: January 11, 2007, 07:09:32 AM

One of the hopes for the "US first" side of the American soccer community is that  Becks struggles in MLS, proving that someone who isn't completely washed up ala Lothar Mattheus still can't be expected to coast to "excellence" in a league across the Atlantic. 

I'm curious to see how this will all play out If nothing else, It got MLS some worldwide press. There may be more if the Ronaldo Doughboy heads to Red Bull New York.

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Reply #236 on: January 12, 2007, 07:04:34 AM

I don't know anything about soccer or Beckham but could someone tell me how an American soccer team has a quarter billion dollars to throw around?  And is that the highest amount ever paid to an athlete?
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Reply #237 on: January 12, 2007, 07:14:10 AM

That amount will barely keep him in frilly frocks!  Don't forget, he has a wife to be prettier than.

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Reply #238 on: January 12, 2007, 07:27:18 AM

I don't know anything about soccer or Beckham but could someone tell me how an American soccer team has a quarter billion dollars to throw around?  And is that the highest amount ever paid to an athlete?

Well, 1) it's over 5 years, and 2) it's LA. They usually have the money to waste on atheletes, no matter what the sport (even with salary restrictions in some leagues, big sports cities like LA, NY, and Boston can secure some of the best players).

I do believe it's the highest paid contract ever though. The previous highest might (?) go to Kevin Garnett in the NBA, who had a $126 million contract over six years. The highest NFL contract doesn't even touch that -- Donavan Mcnabb at $115 million for 12 years.

Highest paid athelete overall though is Tiger Woods, mainly through endorsement deals (think he's been making like 70 mill a year for awhile now).
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Reply #239 on: January 12, 2007, 08:29:03 AM

Only about $51 million of that is for playing football. The rest is endorsement shit. He's media money, not football money. In five years, he'll probably be slower than Drew Bledsoe but at least he'll be able to kick the ball.

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Reply #240 on: January 12, 2007, 12:52:58 PM

Also, Phil Anschutz is one of those people with Scrooge McDuck type money. 31st richest man in america at 7.5 billion.

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Reply #241 on: January 12, 2007, 01:34:31 PM

I don't know anything about soccer or Beckham but could someone tell me how an American soccer team has a quarter billion dollars to throw around?  And is that the highest amount ever paid to an athlete?


Image rights - Galaxy will make most of the money back selling shirts and Galaxy-posters-that-just-happen-to-have-beckham on them to Japanese schoolgirls. This will also dramatically increase the value of their TV rights in foreign markets.

Real supposedly made a substantial profit on Beckham without him even having to play football.


And no, not the biggest ever athletic contract.

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Reply #242 on: January 12, 2007, 01:36:59 PM

Where's the part of the thread where we talk about Liverpool getting crushed 6-3??   evil

The Beckham thing is terrible, as he will now show up a  bunch on American TV.  The only article worth reading on espn.com on the subject was by Jen Chang.  Who pointed out Becks has never been a superstar, and an MLS team would be better off with Deco or someone who plays like Deco any day of the week.  Which was cool, because I like Deco.  The other articles they had up yesterday were just slob-knob bullshit about how this was going to revolutionize a league where everyone makes the playoffs even though almost all of them are under five hundred.   rolleyes

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Reply #243 on: January 12, 2007, 02:00:18 PM

Where's the part of the thread where we talk about Liverpool getting crushed 6-3??   evil

Fucker.

I'm still trying to figure out what Rafa was thinking playing scrubs and Dudek in a FA/Carling Cup match against Arsenal of all people? I understand it if he's playing Norwich or some shit, but WTF, mate?

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Reply #244 on: January 12, 2007, 05:10:11 PM

I spent more time wondering wtf Gerrard, Gonzales, Hyppia, Garcia etc were doing on the pitch.

We do not have the squad to be fucking around in the Milk Cup right now. I had no issue losing the match, losing Gonzales and Garcia was a much bigger deal.

I would have thought this would have become obvious to Rafa after the Sissoko debacle.

At least Arsenal won.

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