Oy vey, Mel...

[Kenrick]

Once inside the car, a source directly connected with the case says Gibson began banging himself against the seat. The report says Gibson told the deputy, "You mother f****r. I'm going to f*** you." The report also says "Gibson almost continually [sic] threatened me saying he 'owns Malibu' and will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me."

The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

The deputy became alarmed as Gibson's tirade escalated, and called ahead for a sergeant to meet them when they arrived at the station. When they arrived, a sergeant began videotaping Gibson, who noticed the camera and then said, "What the f*** do you think you're doing?"

A law enforcement source says Gibson then noticed another female sergeant and yelled, "What do you think you're looking at, sugar tits?"

We're told Gibson took two blood alcohol tests, which were videotaped, and continued saying how "f****d" he was and how he was going to "f***" Deputy Mee.

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[Murgos]

Funny, he didn't mind so much when the Jews made him a multi-millionaire capable of 'owning Malibu'...

[Roac]

Huh.  Now I get that episode on South Park. 

[Righ]

There's a surprising lack of evidence of a police report of that nature. All we have is Harvey Levin's TMZ publishing a partial photocopy of some writing in block capitals that they claim is their leaked evidence, and a bunch of people quoting that site. But he did make a religious snuff movie that presented some Jews in a poor light, so the highly respected paparazzi skin chasers are probably right.

[Abagadro]

Mel has apologized for makiing "despicable statements" when he was arested (although not specifying what they were) so that lends a bit of credence to it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_en_ot/people_gibson_23

He was only a .12, so it is odd that he went so nuts as that is my baseline while posting on here and I manage to keep it together pretty well.

[HaemishM]

Mel Gibson is Batshit Insane. Film at 11.

[Kenrick]

I've been meaning to ask... who the hell is that picture of?  Is that you?

If so, it sure ruins my personal mental image of you:

[HaemishM]

Yes, it's me. Explanation here.

[Kenrick]

That's the saddest fucking thing I've ever seen (uwe's press release)

[Cyrrex]

Yes, it's me. Explanation here.

That pic would have been way better had you done the old "thumb goes beneath the index finger" thing with your fists.

[bhodi]

Yes, it's me. Explanation here.

That pic would have been way better had you done the old "thumb goes beneath the index finger" thing with your fists.

Er, he's making a fist correctly. You don't want your thumb to be beside the index finger. If it was, you'd never see it becuase it'd be behind the fist in the picture.

Not like it matters, he could probably take Uwe either way.

[Miasma]

I was hoping the booking photo would be less flatering.  I think that celebrities and politicians are taking classes in how to get their mug shots.  He only looks mildly insane.

[Kenrick]

We need a master photo-shopper to put a yamekah on his head or something.

[Tale]

Mel Gibson's father is well-known for his anti-Jewish views. In fact he's outspoken. Mel himself until now has distanced himself from his father's views.

But this came up before, when The Passion of the Christ was out, as the reason the movie focuses all blame squarely on the Jews (and none on Pontius Pilate and the Romans).

[Cyrrex]

Yes, it's me. Explanation here.

That pic would have been way better had you done the old "thumb goes beneath the index finger" thing with your fists.

Er, he's making a fist correctly. You don't want your thumb to be beside the index finger. If it was, you'd never see it becuase it'd be behind the fist in the picture.

Not like it matters, he could probably take Uwe either way.

err...not what I meant.  Tucking the thumb neatly underneath index and middle finger.  Ah, never mind. 

[Samwise]

But this came up before, when The Passion of the Christ was out, as the reason the movie focuses all blame squarely on the Jews (and none on Pontius Pilate and the Romans).

I never quite got that whole thing.  Any reasonably faithful movie adaptation of the Biblical accounts would have to lay most of the blame at the feet of the Sanhedrin, not the Roman government.  There were even a few embellishments in the movie that made the Jewish elders come off better than they did in the Biblical version.

[Miasma]

I read that he was supposed to produce a miniseries on the holocaust for ABC.  Uh, yeah, that, that's been cancelled.

[HaemishM]

But this came up before, when The Passion of the Christ was out, as the reason the movie focuses all blame squarely on the Jews (and none on Pontius Pilate and the Romans).

I never quite got that whole thing.  Any reasonably faithful movie adaptation of the Biblical accounts would have to lay most of the blame at the feet of the Sanhedrin, not the Roman government.  There were even a few embellishments in the movie that made the Jewish elders come off better than they did in the Biblical version.

Juan Cole has a different take on the whole thing. I'd tend to give him some credence in this regard.

[Merusk]

Mel has apologized for makiing "despicable statements" when he was arested (although not specifying what they were) so that lends a bit of credence to it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_en_ot/people_gibson_23

He was only a .12, so it is odd that he went so nuts as that is my baseline while posting on here and I manage to keep it together pretty well.

Yeah that's what.. 3 beers?  And people are giving him a pass saying "it was the booze, that's not what Mel Really Thinks!"  Uh? 

Even if it IS 'just the booze.'  Alchohol lowers inhibitions and makes you more likely to do things you'd normally repress.. it doesn't make you suddenly go all apeshit Nazi-Man unless that apeshit Nazi-Man was already there, somewhere.  And certainly not very far below the surface for him to come out at a BAC of .12.

[Samwise]

But this came up before, when The Passion of the Christ was out, as the reason the movie focuses all blame squarely on the Jews (and none on Pontius Pilate and the Romans).

I never quite got that whole thing.  Any reasonably faithful movie adaptation of the Biblical accounts would have to lay most of the blame at the feet of the Sanhedrin, not the Roman government.  There were even a few embellishments in the movie that made the Jewish elders come off better than they did in the Biblical version.

Juan Cole has a different take on the whole thing. I'd tend to give him some credence in this regard.

Nowhere in that article does he claim that the movie was any more "anti-Semitic" than the gospel accounts were.  Which is all I'm saying - if you take the position that the gospel accounts are anti-Semitic, you should be more worried about the Bible than you are about some movie that was based on it.

Mind you, I think calling the gospel accounts anti-Semitic is a bit ludicrous as well.  The only characters in the entire account of the crucifixion who aren't Jewish are the Romans, and they're basically backdrop.  So yes, the villains are Jewish, but so are the heroes -- seems like a wash to me.  You only get anti-Semitism out of that if you conveniently ignore the fact that Jesus and all of his disciples and supporters are Jewish.  Which it's certainly possible to do, but that's entirely in the eye of the beholder, and is in no way inherent in the story.  You could just as easily apply the same view to ANY story that includes predominantly Jewish characters.

[HaemishM]

I was pointing more to his take on the Romans being the "real culprits" behind the thing, not so much the anti-Semitism. I think most anti-Semitism is overblown into "you don't agree with what this Jewish guy said about something."

[Ironwood]

Doesn't that cover my reaction every time Schild posts tho ?

[schild]

Braveheart is still an awesome movie.

[Samwise]

Braveheart is still an awesome movie.

That sums up my feelings on Mel Gibson right there.

[Tale]

Braveheart is still an awesome movie.

That sums up my feelings on Mel Gibson right there.

Except for being a movie based on actual historical events, which drastically changes those events in order to please American audiences. Watching it as a Scot was kind of wierd ... "awesome, they're telling our story and kicking the English", then "WTF?".

[Strazos]

I'll never understand Hollywood's habit of butchering history to make a good movie, when the history itself would make a perfectly good story - If you're going to make a movie based upon historical events, actually base it on those events, instead of just making shit up. Either make it fiction and say so, or non-fiction.

As Tale said, "WTF!?"

Though, as far as movies go, Braveheart is still thoroughly enjoyable.

[Samwise]

I was pretty disappointed to learn that half of Braveheart was completely made up.  I try to put that out of my head when I'm watching it, though.

[Righ]

Max Max 2 was the pinnacle of his talents. I was more comfortable with the idea of him as a drunk psychopath than as a drunk producer of revisionist history, homophobia or religious intolerance. But thats the political ladder for you.

[Signe]

My favourite Mel Gibson film was Lethal Weapon.  I giggle whenever I think about it.  I'm giggling now.  Braveheart was okay and I really liked the Mad Max film, especially the second one.  I'm pretty sure most of Braveheart was made up, but I'm not surprised.  Isn't that what Hollywood does?   Make stuff up?

[voodoolily]

Two men enter. One man leave.

[Big Gulp]

Two men enter. One man leave.

Preach that shit.  Thunderdome was the definitive Mad Max movie, and I'll hear no argument.

[HaemishM]

I'll never understand Hollywood's habit of butchering history to make a good movie, when the history itself would make a perfectly good story - If you're going to make a movie based upon historical events, actually base it on those events, instead of just making shit up. Either make it fiction and say so, or non-fiction.

As Tale said, "WTF!?"

Though, as far as movies go, Braveheart is still thoroughly enjoyable.

In this case, don't blame Hollywood, blame the author of the book (a Scots-American Wallace). He wrote it that way.

And Mel Gibson is Australian, so you can't blame him either. Braveheart is a fantastic movie, and a shitty history lesson. Read a real history book.

[Signe]

I don't think Mel became Australian until he was a teen-ager or something.  He also seems to be made up.

[WayAbvPar]

He is a KGB sleeper agent.

And a raving douchebag.

[Righ]

I don't think Mel became Australian until he was a teen-ager or something.  He also seems to be made up.

Born in NY state, he never gave up his American nationality, though he did grow up with the colonists who learned how to correctly spell and drive on roads.