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Chimpy
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Reply #6405 on: August 21, 2018, 10:58:23 AM

Re-reading 1984 because the news wasn't depressing me quite enough.

Terrifying. Truly terrifying.

Why are you scared of the war with Eurasia?

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Reg
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Reply #6406 on: August 21, 2018, 11:16:08 AM

I don't see the big deal. We've always been at war with those guys.
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Reply #6407 on: August 22, 2018, 08:11:17 AM

Let's just say I am more and more amazed that Roger Ailes didn't call Fox News the Ministry of Truth.

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Reply #6408 on: August 22, 2018, 09:14:53 AM

Let's just say I am more and more amazed that Roger Ailes didn't call Fox News the Ministry of Truth.

I re-read the book in the early part of the post 9/11 era and it seemed like that War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength was becoming the motto of the country.

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Reply #6409 on: August 24, 2018, 09:56:22 AM

A constant battle between whether that or Brave New World is the story of our future. Really we've kind of got both now.

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Reply #6410 on: August 24, 2018, 11:01:56 AM

The Internet is digital Soma.  why so serious?

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Reply #6411 on: August 25, 2018, 11:12:12 AM

The Internet is digital Soma.  why so serious?
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Reply #6412 on: September 11, 2018, 01:06:02 PM

Have we discussed the Black Company on this page yet?  No?  Good.  There's actually a new book out today, Port of Shadows, although it'll be a bit before I personally can read it, but I thought some of you might care.
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Reply #6413 on: September 11, 2018, 05:14:10 PM

Not sure if this is the right place but bought Fear: Trump in the White House today for Kindle and began reading it over lunch.  Not my normal reading material.  This shit is crazy.  Still only on the campaign.  And while I am not down with him as a human, Bannon's brass balls appear to be really what made the absurd become a reality.

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Reply #6414 on: September 11, 2018, 06:51:39 PM

I bought it too, but gotta finish my current book first. Should get to it in a couple of days. I am sure it will enrage me.

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Reply #6415 on: September 11, 2018, 07:39:03 PM

If I read it as speculative fiction it is fascinating and the bad guy hustler Bannon is a cool character.   Then I pause and think "no this shit is real" then I am  ACK! ACK! ACK!

only on page 96... was not very productive at work today   Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #6416 on: September 12, 2018, 11:48:47 AM

Have we discussed the Black Company on this page yet?  No?  Good.  There's actually a new book out today, Port of Shadows

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Reply #6417 on: September 12, 2018, 12:40:32 PM

Thereís another one coming as well.  Heís been sitting on them for close to 20 years waiting out a contract or something like that.  I canít remember the full details.
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Reply #6418 on: September 12, 2018, 01:38:40 PM

Thereís another one coming as well.  Heís been sitting on them for close to 20 years waiting out a contract or something like that.  I canít remember the full details.

Ummm.  I have never heard anything like that, and I think that Tor has been his publisher for ages.  His output (all books) has dramatically declined in the past ten to fifteen years, and a good chunk of that time was spent wrapping up his other series.

There have been a scattering of Black Company short stories in that time.

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He has said that retiring from GM really slowed his work down, as he did more puttering and watching baseball then writing.  That being said, he has still released like 8 or 10 books since.  Just down from an average of 2/year in the '80s/'90s.
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Reply #6419 on: September 12, 2018, 02:08:08 PM

Aw man, that's great!  Now to wait the 2-3 years for a paperback version.
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Reply #6420 on: September 15, 2018, 07:57:09 PM

I was initially put off but once I got to the significant reveal around mid-book I was pretty hooked. Of the recent works of fantasy that have tried to deal with difficult questions of power, enslavement, history, memory, justice, etc., I think this one is pretty deft in the end. You end up with some sympathy for the people who've been bossing around the orogenes even as you recognize the ugliness of what they do to them; and there are deeper struggles going on that the protagonists are unaware of at the start.


I'm two books in so far and agree with what you say. However there is a certain looseness to the writing that is somewhat annoying. A lot of mary sue ex machina and hazy characterization; everyone is who they need to be all the time.

Now, some part of that might be argued to be the authorial concept of the narrative - but I don't really think it is deliberate.

Still enjoying it, and reading the third book now. But a bit short of great, for me. (It's no Ancillary Justice).

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