Crusader Kings

[schild]

KR? That's the Kronish Rupee. You might have trouble dealing with that.

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It shows USD for me.  It's probably because you have to select your country before getting to that page, so it could fuck it up for you.

[Lum]

I was playing 1.04 A.  I think that's the latest.

Edit: also, crusades lasting over 100 years are bad.

It's not.  1.05 is a huge patch that among other things completely redid the crusade system.

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/Downloads.asp
patch notes: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234395

I'd recommend you try it. However your kids being disloyal and yoinking your titles is Working As Designed (everyone has a loyalty attribute that you can check in their stats, btw). If it is actually your kid you should start playing as him if he took all your titles or you die. But, um, you do realize that intrigue and backstabbing is kind of part of the game. it's a sim of being the head of a medieval noble  line, not a conquer all of europe game.

Plus if you go nuts and start conquering too much from your fellow Christians, you will become seen as a powermad maniac and everyone's loyalty will drop like a rock. Taking over Muslim or Pagan territory is fine, but you presumably are not supposed to make war against fellow believers. Unless they started it. Or you can get away with it. I usually play as an Irish noble and by the time I unite Eire I pretty much have to ditch ALL my vassals until my reputation cools down a bit.

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He usurped the title King of Wales at a 100% loyalty. 

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Whoa this patch looks pretty good.  Peace is now enforced for vassal when the lord makes peace.  Vassals now sorted in loyalty order to the liege. Sweet. Focuesed and shortes crusades.

I may reinstall and try it.  There's still so much I don't get though.  For example, what's up with Bishoprics and how do you become a papal controller?

Probably the best pacth change is that now you can agree with a copurt member who thinks they would make a better steward/chancellor/etc.  That shit gets old, it happens so much.

Also:  If Intrigue now governs demense size/penalty, what the hell does stewardship do? 

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Damn I'm definitely going to reinstall. Mercenary system changed to be useful?  Sweet, I hated how it would always be 2700 gold for like 800 troops.  How weak was that?    Combat lossess now displayed in results window?  This is the kind of shit that should have been there from the beginning.  The game might be fun now.



Edit:  "Rebelliousness means that a vassal is considering declaring independemce, or that he might attempt to wreak havoc within his liege's realm. Realm duress is a trait that a liege will receive if one or more of his vassals is attempting to initiate a civil war. Until he can regain stability by putting down all signs of rebellion, he will be at far greater risk of further uprisings."

That's what I'm fucking talking about.  A little feedback on something that's pretty goddamn important.

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http://www.paradoxshop.com/frameset.asp

If you go here, you can select which country you want to buy it from:

http://www.paradoxshop.com/

If you go here, you can buy it as a download and save some moolah:

http://www.gamersgate.net/

If you go here, you can buy it as a download for the Mac:

http://www.vpltd.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=198

The Mac version is almost certainly a much older version, caveat emptor.

I care a lot.

[Lum]

Actually Paradox does a pretty good job of keeping Mac versions up to date (which is a good thing, they're about the only games my older Mac will run well). However the Mac contractor hasn't gotten 1.05 for CK out yet (last word was "it's in beta testing" last month).

[Lum]

I may reinstall and try it.  There's still so much I don't get though.  For example, what's up with Bishoprics and how do you become a papal controller?

Also:  If Intrigue now governs demense size/penalty, what the hell does stewardship do? 

This forum may be helpful: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=244

Stewardship value directly increases gold recieved in taxes, and the papal controller is either (a) during non-crusades, the nearest relative of the new Pope that is a ruler of a state, or (b) during crusades, the ruler with the highest Piety score. This is only checked when the Pope dies and a new one is chosen.

[Yegolev]

I don't understand how someone who plays so much WoW has time to play war games.

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I don't play WoW anymore.

[Lum]

I think he's talking about my XFire banner, which also reflects when my wife has WOW up when I'm not home to transfer stuff between guild toons.

[Yegolev]

I was attempting to make a joke at Lum's expense, but he played the wife card.  I might ask how someone can play wargames when they have a WoW addict consuming so may CPU cycles, but this really wasn't that funny to begin with.

[Hoax]

Cross topic posting 4tw!?

I was attempting to make a joke at Lum's expense, but he played the wife card.  I might ask how someone can play wargames when they have a WoW addict consuming so may CPU cycles, but this really wasn't that funny to begin with.

"Joo can do iitt!"