The perfect MMO

[Arthur_Parker]

Can somebody repost the original post?  I don't know how I missed this "LOL Wife LOL" thread.

[Mongoose]

Haha.  2 seconds to copy/paste retort. Suddenly changing your writing style, spelling, and grammar after incoherence? Priceless.





edit.  Errr, I suck at mimicking commercials.  You get the idea.  Seriously, I wish you had just came up with a witty rebuttal. :(

  LOL, you honestly lost me here, as I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[Mongoose]

Although I do not know your actual physical age, your mental age must be quite youthful if you are convinced that you are taking your "cause" in a postivie direction by flaming me constantly.

Come on lose the stereotypes and make a competent flame, belittlement, or whatever you are trying to do.

  I'm impressed...  Now post a reply in your own words, that is not tainted with hate or ignorance, that is in reference to the original topic of this thread.  If you can manage this, I will firmly be under the effect of "shock and awe".

[Righ]

You're a terrible writer with a 6th grade grasp of English.

Would I be right in thinking that 6th grade is 10-12 years old in America? In my day, people didn't get out of primary school if they were using a noun as an adjective, whether or not it was a Latin affectation.

<indent><indent>LOL.(stuff in brackets)<space><space>Markup skills of a hebetudinous megatherium.

[Cheddar]

Well, since you asked me to outright flame you, OK. But remember, you asked for it.

You're a terrible writer with a 6th grade grasp of English. Your sentence structure is atrocious and your grammar skills are a wreck. You write for the bottom-feeding dreck on the internet because it's who will put up with your shit. You can ask anyone here, I don't think I've ever really gone off on someone like this, especially someone as innocuous with you. You're not a threat to anyone. You're just a naive little dick who was pointed here by Bruce who thought it would be fine to post a giant essay without reading up on the fact we had all of these ideas before any sort of diku-less future was even a glimmer in your eye. The fact that Bruce wouldn't put you on his site should have been reason enough for you not to pull that stunt over here.

I don't mind you sticking around and chatting, there's lots of things to say but there's also lots of things that no longer have to be said. But you said them and you're terribly bad at defending yourself. As such you find yourself at a fork in the road. You can go down one path and be a little whiny dick who goes around posting his senseless completely unoriginal ramblings in drive-by showings of what a douche he is OR you can read up on this entire little section of the internet and what has been written over the last two and a half years (for us, more for others) and maybe come up with some original thought. But coming back around for a chance to stick up for yourself just makes you look stupid. Your analogies are terrible and you miss the point of half the posts made against you. Obviously you're new to the whole moderated and smart forum discussion "thing" so it's probably in your best interest to go radio silent for a few weeks and then come back and ADD to conversations instead of invoking drama that's been settled for a long, long time.

That's what was recommended to me a long while ago. I give you that advice from the sub-cockles of my heart. Not because I like you, but because I hate reading your drivel. But you're obviously passionate enough to keep around if you knew at all the subject matter you were talking about. You've been writing for morons at MPS, deal with it. As arrogant as it sounds, to many people this is the "big league." Most writers from other sites would get shit on also. It's a league about reputation, pride, and relationships. I love my staff here, I love MANY of the readers (the vast majority) and I have given up jobs for this site. I will not have you come in here and peddle your tired shit in my living room.

Was that clear enough?

At Mongooses request.  Ironically I was *somewhat* on his side at first.  He makes Broughden look like a model addition around here.




edit.  Needed more gh.
edit 2.  Perhaps I am doing something wrong, but I always leave my original post up for prosperity sake.  Even when I alter/delete/hate/drunken when I typed it.  REPOST the first page, bitch!  You lost 2 cool points for actually deleting it. 
edit 3.  I do believe we only have a handfull of bans here.  Sir_Bruce, Shockeye, and DV are all I can think of.

[Velorath]

Don't travel the well-worn path of some loser who shows up, does something stupid, gets flamed a bit and then refuses to go away all the while claiming "I dont care about your stupid site lolz!".  Those guys always get banned in the end because eventually that shtick gets to be very not fun.

Of course I don't think StGabe was ever banned so you never know.

[Mongoose]

Let me try, everyone knows my grasp of the grammar sucks perhaps I can get through to him.


Listen, Mongoose, you work(ed) for an exploiter site.  That makes you damaged goods, the same way somebody who works for IGE is a jackass by association you are a jackass by association.  Beyond that, saying you are a "writer" for some 'sploit site gives you no cred.  If you want to just drop down onto a forum and post a fucking essay you need cred.  You have no cred, in fact you have negative cred because you are associated with Bruce and MPS.

Schild doesn't need to do anything and he's probably not going to ban you, this thread will continue for as long as it serves the purpose of providing amusement or until you say something really stupid.  Then it will go to the den, there special people will have a few more good times in it and it will die.

You are the one who needs to make an adjustment, it is COMMON fucking knowledge for anyone who knows anything about internet communities that the initial icebreaker is hard.  There are forums with membership #'s so massive nobody really cares and others with communities so small any new face is welcome.  There are also forums that have newbie introduction sections.  F13 doesn't fit any of these categories.  Your icebreaker was a treatise on the state of MMO's that as so many others have said is 5 years late.  Developers need to focus more on fun less on shiney, often they dont seem to understand simple shit like timesink cockblocks aren't fun (McQuaid I'm looking at you) we know, we've got that, it is a fucking given.

Imagine if you will somebody showing up and posting a lengthy post along these lines:
"Blizzard is fucking great gaiz!  Like seriously, I can't believe how much they own!!  Does anyone agree with me?"

That is what you have done.  It is not too late though, I suggest you just walk away for now.  Don't travel the well-worn path of some loser who shows up, does something stupid, gets flamed a bit and then refuses to go away all the while claiming "I dont care about your stupid site lolz!".  Those guys always get banned in the end because eventually that shtick gets to be very not fun.

  Woah, are you serious?  So what you are saying is that you are a bunch of stuck up snobs and that only people with substantial credit can post an article here?  Then it is true that I am ignorant, and you have my apology.(It did not mention this when I registered)

  I am associated with Bruce, how did this happen?(Because I got one email from him in regards to the article I wrote, this gives me association?)

   "Don't travel the well worn path..."    I did nothing stupid, I wrote an article on what I feel are the major problems,(And how to correct them) in today's MMOs.  The original article was quite long, a little over 14k words, but I knew that would not get printed anywhere because of the length, so I tried to cram it into 3500 words.(Which did not work)  That is why when a few peeps made comments about how "choppy" it was, I did not reply because they were correct.  As far as me not caring about this site, I have no connections to it, so whether this site fails or becomes a huge success means nothing to me.  If this is my "icebreaker" then fine, bend me over and don't forget the reach around, but if you need credit to post, then I think you are all ignorant.  If everyone that posted had immaculate credit, who the hell would be cynical?

P.S.  Kind of funny how you brought up IGE, with SOE now allowing trading between players and taking cash from every sale, I am disapointed that you did not bring up their name also.  I had written an article on the whole "cash for coin/items/accounts" thing before, however that topic is for another time.  Right now I am waiting for Schild's next Chess move...

[Hoax]

Listen dumbass, the whole cred thing isn't new.  When you register then post that day by creating a new thread in any self-respecting non-family forum you are in trouble.  When your new thread is Captain Obvious material not to mention long as fuck.  You are going to take some heat.  This isn't some fucking blog where more comments = more better.

You are currently being the forum equivalent of a telemarketer.   Nobody invited you to come post your essay here.  You didn't send it to the mods and ask if they wanted to front page it.  You just show up and start trying to sell us your ideas.

Just remember if you really dont care what anyone here thinks or says you will just leave.  This logic is infallible.

Counter-claims like: "I'm just returning to your site over and over for my own amusement; BUT I DONT CARE!" only serve to make a poster look pathetic and stupid.

[Mongoose]

You're a terrible writer with a 6th grade grasp of English.

Would I be right in thinking that 6th grade is 10-12 years old in America? In my day, people didn't get out of primary school if they were using a noun as an adjective, whether or not it was a Latin affectation.

<indent><indent>LOL.(stuff in brackets)<space><space>Markup skills of a hebetudinous megatherium.

  I have twin 11 year olds going into 6th grade, although there is nothing wrong with the sentence.

[Cheddar]

 Woah, are you serious?  So what you are saying is that you are a bunch of stuck up snobs and that only people with substantial credit can post an article here?  Then it is true that I am ignorant, and you have my apology.(It did not mention this when I registered)

  I am associated with Bruce, how did this happen?(Because I got one email from him in regards to the article I wrote, this gives me association?)

   "Don't travel the well worn path..."    I did nothing stupid, I wrote an article on what I feel are the major problems,(And how to correct them) in today's MMOs.  The original article was quite long, a little over 14k words, but I knew that would not get printed anywhere because of the length, so I tried to cram it into 3500 words.(Which did not work)  That is why when a few peeps made comments about how "choppy" it was, I did not reply because they were correct.  As far as me not caring about this site, I have no connections to it, so whether this site fails or becomes a huge success means nothing to me.  If this is my "icebreaker" then fine, bend me over and don't forget the reach around, but if you need credit to post, then I think you are all ignorant.  If everyone that posted had immaculate credit, who the hell would be cynical?

P.S.  Kind of funny how you brought up IGE, with SOE now allowing trading between players and taking cash from every sale, I am disapointed that you did not bring up their name also.  I had written an article on the whole "cash for coin/items/accounts" thing before, however that topic is for another time.  Right now I am waiting for Schild's next Chess move...

Go read the list of people signed up with this community.  Notice the red names?  They are here and interact with us.  For a reason.  IGE is a completely different beast then SOE.  SOE regulates their RMT via regulations and design concerning the game.  One example is the fact that EQ2 only has 2 servers where this is possible; though they do offer free moves for those whom want to join it.  IGE utilizes sweatshop designs in third world countries and has no consideration for balancing or limiting access; like walmart they do not give a fuck what happens to the economy or the people whom their practice affects.  

As far as posting, there is extreme leeway on who posts and what becomes an article. Llava became a blue name quickly.  Illiterate people such as Voodoolilly have also done articles.  Are we pretencious? Sure.  We have reason to be.  Even Bruce had to ask to be allowed to "read" here.


edit.  grammar. We are elite, after all.

[Mongoose]

Listen dumbass, the whole cred thing isn't new.  When you register then post that day by creating a new thread in any self-respecting non-family forum you are in trouble.  When your new thread is Captain Obvious material not to mention long as fuck.  You are going to take some heat.  This isn't some fucking blog where more comments = more better.

You are currently being the forum equivalent of a telemarketer.   Nobody invited you to come post your essay here.  You didn't send it to the mods and ask if they wanted to front page it.  You just show up and start trying to sell us your ideas.

Just remember if you really dont care what anyone here thinks or says you will just leave.  This logic is infallible.

Counter-claims like: "I'm just returning to your site over and over for my own amusement; BUT I DONT CARE!" only serve to make a poster look pathetic and stupid.

  Sigh...  I am trying to sell my ideas, are you retarded?  If I was trying to sell you anything would I ask for criticism?  If I was trying to sell you something I would try to convince you how great it was and how desperatley you needed it, instead I had asked for criticism and comments.  If I would admit I was pathetic and stupid, would you STFU, or at least try to make a decent point?

[Cheddar]

  Sigh...  I am trying to sell my ideas, are you retarded?  If I was trying to sell you anything would I ask for criticism?  If I was trying to sell you something I would try to convince you how great it was and how desperatley you needed it, instead I had asked for criticism and comments.  If I would admit I was pathetic and stupid, would you STFU, or at least try to make a decent point?

You are reactionary.  Want some advice I gave to another person recently?  Step back.  Post some NONE-inflammatory remarks elsewhere.  Instead of trying to defend yourself so much (thus fucking up my internet, by proxy) why do you not try and be part of the community? 

We have TONS of threads addressing various things.  I recommend avoiding Hello Kitty ones, though.  Schild is extremely vocal about it.

[Yoru]

If I would admit I was pathetic and stupid, would you STFU, or at least try to make a decent point?

Funny. Every time someone flames you, you respond with something akin to this.

Every time someone actually attempts to make points or have a reasonable conversation, you either ignore their ideas or simply assert that you are unassailably correct.

Does this remind anyone else of CNN's "Crossfire" in 2004?

[Mongoose]

 Woah, are you serious?  So what you are saying is that you are a bunch of stuck up snobs and that only people with substantial credit can post an article here?  Then it is true that I am ignorant, and you have my apology.(It did not mention this when I registered)

  I am associated with Bruce, how did this happen?(Because I got one email from him in regards to the article I wrote, this gives me association?)

   "Don't travel the well worn path..."    I did nothing stupid, I wrote an article on what I feel are the major problems,(And how to correct them) in today's MMOs.  The original article was quite long, a little over 14k words, but I knew that would not get printed anywhere because of the length, so I tried to cram it into 3500 words.(Which did not work)  That is why when a few peeps made comments about how "choppy" it was, I did not reply because they were correct.  As far as me not caring about this site, I have no connections to it, so whether this site fails or becomes a huge success means nothing to me.  If this is my "icebreaker" then fine, bend me over and don't forget the reach around, but if you need credit to post, then I think you are all ignorant.  If everyone that posted had immaculate credit, who the hell would be cynical?

P.S.  Kind of funny how you brought up IGE, with SOE now allowing trading between players and taking cash from every sale, I am disapointed that you did not bring up their name also.  I had written an article on the whole "cash for coin/items/accounts" thing before, however that topic is for another time.  Right now I am waiting for Schild's next Chess move...

Go read the list of people signed up with this community.  Notice the red names?  They are here and interact with us.  For a reason.  IGE is a completely different beast then SOE.  SOE regulates their RMT via regulations and design concerning the game.  One example is the fact that EQ2 only has 2 servers where this is possible; though they do offer free moves for those whom want to join it.  IGE utilizes sweatshop designs in third world countries and has no consideration for balancing or limiting access; like walmart they do not give a fuck what happens to the economy or the people whom their practice affects.  

As far as posting, there is extreme leeway on who posts and what becomes an article. Llava became a blue name quickly.  Illiterate people such as Voodoolilly have also done articles.  Are we pretencious? Sure.  We have reason to be.  Even Bruce had to ask to be allowed to "read" here.


edit.  grammar. We are elite, after all.

  Yes I noticed the red names and the green ones, normally I do not like to be seen with my clothes off, but I am just a name on the screen here :)  Well IGE is a topic that can be hairy as it is a middle man nothing more, IMO the MMO devs need to take resposibility for this issue.  Although I am not a great fan of what SOE is doing, I do feel that when facing reality, it is the only intelligent choice.  No one can stop this market,(Think of prohibition, enough people with money want it, so a market will always be there) so the actual MMO companies should take the profit from it, maybe using it to make a better MMO...

  It is nothing more then an introduction I understand that, but my flag won't fall, my pride gets in the way.  LOL, we are all human and have our flaws...


P.S.  My secret agenda is to surpass the 380k views and 891 replies that I got on the Public WOW boards, when I got the last of the classes to 60 and posted screenshots, that ain't gonna happen :)  This thread is dead, you wont see me posting in it again, maybe I will look for another topic.  Where is the abortion section, under political?

[Cheddar]

 Yes I noticed the red names and the green ones, normally I do not like to be seen with my clothes off, but I am just a name on the screen here :)  Well IGE is a topic that can be hairy as it is a middle man nothing more, IMO the MMO devs need to take resposibility for this issue.  Although I am not a great fan of what SOE is doing, I do feel that when facing reality, it is the only intelligent choice.  No one can stop this market,(Think of prohibition, enough people with money want it, so a market will always be there) so the actual MMO companies should take the profit from it, maybe using it to make a better MMO...

  It is nothing more then an introduction I understand that, but my flag won't fall, my pride gets in the way.  LOL, we are all human and have our flaws...

Now this was a decent response.  Continue with this and you will thrive!  Minus the clothes off thing. 

I encourage everyone to participate here, but (literally) at least half of F13 are lurkers.  Personally, I do not type well in this setting.  I make up for it by kicking ass in games.  The RMT thing is a sticky wicket (as seen in other threads).  People will always stick to their opinions regardless of basis or facts; kinda like how things are in regards to President Bush.  We have some oustanding RMT threads going though, so I will sidestep that tangent.  I will make the request that you repost your original thread starter though; some of our brethren did miss it and if you are looking for intelligent discourse on your writing it does not help to remove it.

Also please do not quote the entire passage + quotes within quotes.  It makes scrolling through a bitch.

[WindupAtheist]

[Velorath]

Your education begins here Mongoose.

[schild]

He's trying to make new friends. Though I suppose he could steal my old friends.

[WindupAtheist]

WUA Subliminal Vision (tm) GO!

  I am not a threat to anyone?  WTF is going through that ignoramus mind of yours?  My intent had nothing to do with being a threat to anything, is was simply to get feedback about an article that I had written, honestly what is going through your mind that you assumed that I was trying to be a "threat" to anyone?(This is quite comical as you do not even understand intent)

  Bruce has articles on his website that are third party, really?  Can you give me a link, I do not see any.  By the way your website(Don't flatter yourself) was not mentioned alone, it was mentioned as part of a list.  Why you may feel your website is "Holy" it is nothing more then a website, along with millions of others...  Imagine that though, I judge this website on what material it contains, instead of being associated with an ignorant, "pissed off at the world", moron such as yourself.  Look at you, what are you actually progressing here?  Maybe if you caught me 15-20 years ago you could get my goat, but honestly you are wasting your breath.  Know what takes you forward, and what holds you back, if you do nothing more then to concentrate on negativity, you will get nothing but neagative responses.(Such as this one, dumbass)  So take whatever the agenda is that you have, and take it forward in a postive fashion, otherwise your wisdom will go nowhere, and you will remain to the world what your are, IMO, nothing more then ignoramus trying to belittle someone else.  Can you not do anything constructive for the topic which started this thread?  Or or you so at a loss of intelligence and words that you can do nothing more then flame me?  Regardless, to me you are nothing more then a piece of online entertainment, held back from actually doing anything constructive by a compassionate hate for the topic(In this case the MMO industry) your are trying to be cynical about.  Although I do not know your actual physical age, your mental age must be quite youthful if you are convinced that you are taking your "cause" in a postivie direction by flaming me constantly.

  If the artcle that I have written contained items or expressions that were well known by the members of this website, could you not have commented in a different fashion to convey wisdom, instead of ignorance?  Although it seems you have at least a tiny hint of intelligence, it is largely trumped over by your lustful hate.  I am not your enemy, I do not develop MMO's and I have no say-so in the features that are inside them.  If you feel that you are all high and mighty then use your knowledge to show others what your point is, this breeds respect.  Acting like an ass and getting all pissed off makes me look at you as a retard trying to piss in the corner of a round room, although I may intially laugh, it has me take pity in the end.  Are you trying to impress someone?  Because I have not learned anything from you yet...  Is your mission to try to piss off all the new members and have them leave so you can say "L00k4t m3 1 m4d3 h1m l34v3, 1 4m s0 c00l"?  Let me explain what will happen here in the future, you will either:

1.  Give up and ban me.(Oh blue-eyed blonde-haired master, should I bring all the books to the town square Sunday morning for a bonfire?)

2.  Continue to act like an ass and put a smile on my face.(Really this is a website on the internet, and the internet is mainly used for entertainment)

3.  You will pull your head out of your ass and and start using words to constructively further the cause of your website, instead of trying to scare people away from it.(This is the only way you will get respect from me, or honest respect from anyone else that has a brain between their shoulders)

  Now before you reply,(I am pretty sure by now you are frantically searching for the reply button by now) think about those 3 choices you have.  And know that neither will effect me in anyway but the third, and I honestly believe you are too ignorant and hateful for that.  SO think of it as what you want from me.  Do you want to admit that you cannot except my opinon or views, then be cynical and ban me.(LOL)  Do you want to further my entertainment value, then continue with your negative ranting and ravings, but please be a little more passionate because I bore easily.  Or do you want to actually earn my respect?  Your choice, choose wisely.(LOL, Indiana Jones flashback, how ironic, because I already know the choice you have made)   

"I am Bruce.  I will take youthful ass.  Ass is pretty.  (LOL)"

It's all there, people!  It's the WUA Code.  Like the Bible Code, only better.

[Broughden]

He makes Broughden look like a model addition around here.

 

I recommend avoiding Hello Kitty ones, though.

MMO will rule the galaxy!

[schild]

You're not helping make this thread better.

[WindupAtheist]

Making this thread better is a futile hope.  At this point we should just go for Worst Thread Ever and enjoy the ride.  Now summon all your compassionate hate, and flame him for the cause!

[Hutch]

  I'm impressed...  Now post a reply in your own words, that is not tainted with hate or ignorance, that is in reference to the original topic of this thread.  If you can manage this, I will firmly be under the effect of "shock and awe".

Can an admin delete this thread for me?  Since nothing positive will come from this, I see no reason to have it here, thanks

Oops, the original topic of this thread got overwritten somehow.

[Tale]

Interesting, and non-existent now:

MMO-PRO What a great place
Monday, December 12th, 2005

OK people in this post im gonna talk about one of my favorite sites. Its called MMO-PRO. It is a realtively new site. In fact I was only the ninth person to join the forums there. The actually website doesn’t have much yet but its the forums where the good stuff is at. The creater of the site, who likes to be called “Mongoose” is a cool guy. He has 9 level 60’s which you can see on his site. He is actually paid to play games. Yes thats right, he is paid to play World of Warcraft. That’s why he has a level 60 of every class. He did it totally legit without any hacks or cheats of any sort. He started the site because he wanted a place where only mature gamers could get together with other mature gamers. The forums are growing with new members every day now. If you want to be part of a growing community then MMO-PRO is the place to go! Mongoose is going to make this place the best it can be.

(edit) More pointless stalking! For an example of Mongoose's multiplayerstrategies.com writing, see the boxed "free sample tutorial" here.

And the WOW gods came down from the Heavens and slapped Goose and said “let there be coin”.
...
5. This is my first coin strat, if I see this C&P’ed anywhere I am going to be real pissy. Don’t even try to eBay this, already being done.(not by me, although if I was not a writer for MPS it would be by me LOFL)

Also his catass PvP character, and his "I'm a writer for MPS" review of Auto Assault with the hilarious sole response: "Question: what is MPS?". And from a Slashdot comment:

Another one of their writers (mongoose) who is very popular for having leveled every class to 60, has had many of his guides stolen and resold on ebay, and on those annoying 1 page ad websites. The worst part is they resell guides that are months old, with tips that haven't worked for many patches (such as the zoning into and out of instances near maintanence to dupe items).

[Broughden]

You're not helping make this thread better.

I gotta agree with WUA on this one...

Making this thread better is a futile hope.  At this point we should just go for Worst Thread Ever and enjoy the ride. 

[Der Helm]

 
I do believe we only have a handfull of bans here.  Sir_Bruce, Shockeye, and DV are all I can think of.

Shockeye got banned ? 

What did I miss ? 

[schild]

Shockeye isn't banned.

[Der Helm]

Shockeye isn't banned.

You killed him, didn't you ?

[schild]

Shockeye isn't banned.

You killed him, didn't you ?

Neg.

[Cheddar]

Dance puppets, dance.

[Ironwood]

What.  The.  Fuck.

Stop torturing frogs people.  I mean, come on.  You take them out of the jars when they're gassed, open them up, note the organs in your jotters and then leave them on the shelf beside the textbooks.

You do not wait for the ether to wear off and then attach the voltmeter to them.

Kill this please.

[Ironwood]

1.  Give up and ban me.(Oh blue-eyed blonde-haired master, should I bring all the books to the town square Sunday morning for a bonfire?)

 


I thought Schild was one of teh jewboys ?

[Ironwood]

And finally, to round off my tri-posting in style, I'd like to ask what the fuck Eldeac was drinking when he posted.

I need to get me some of that.

[schild]

I thought Schild was one of teh jewboys ?

Whatever. It all follows his entire line of reasoning. He assumed it was ok for him to solicit a 7 page essay on a site he'd never been to before. What shocks you about the aryan comment?

[Ironwood]

Not shocked.

Kinda tingly and giggly at it.

It's like calling Shaft a 'honky' down the phone.