Throne of Realms of Chaotic Krel Mourning

[Signe]

Mourning is back.  I can't remember if this is the 4th or 5th incarnation.  Of course, most people never got their money back so the previous company owned by Porno Dave promised those people 5 or 6 months free game time when it released.  Which it did.  Then they put it back in beta.  I don't know if it's in beta now or alpha or what.  They claim there is a new dev people.  Maybe it's just a coincidence that the new dev team seem to have mostly the same name and live in Romania.  What are the odds?  Anyway THIS company owns it now.  This "game" is cursed, I think.

[Mesozoic]

Well none of the game website's links work, so they're off to a roaring start.

[Cheddar]

Feet, you sure are a glutton for punishment.  How do you keep up with the inconsequential?

[Signe]

Feet, you sure are a glutton for punishment.  How do you keep up with the inconsequential?

People email me stuff, meanie.   

[LC]

http://www.myspace.com/blackhat840

Myspace of Nuanced Entertainment's owner. He cleaned it up a lot since I first saw it. The colors were changed, and most of the content was removed.

http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5959

[Signe]

There is a rumour that the owner of one of the companies is only 17. 

[LC]

There is a rumour that the owner of one of the companies is only 17. 

Adam's myspace originally said he was 17 years old. He changed his age as well.

[Signe]

Does that work?  You mean I can change my age?  Just like that?  As of rignt now, I'm 22.  If you don't believe me, just ask some dumbass named Adam.

YAY!

[Righ]

Half the people on his friends list ask "who r u". They should just follow the dots. Adam McCall has left way too much information out there.

[Lum]

Oh wait, he's not 17, he's 19. Which I tend to believe. If you're going to lie at that age, you'd probably want to lie in such a way that you can drink legally.

[LC]

Oh wait, he's not 17, he's 19. Which I tend to believe. If you're going to lie at that age, you'd probably want to lie in such a way that you can drink legally.

About one week ago myspace said he was seventeen. Was he was hit with one of those age changing ray guns? Myspace gets age from the DoB you provide. I doubt he intentionally put it in wrong the first time.

[Signe]

Sooo... where do I get one of these age changing ray guns?

And it doesn't really matter how old he is.  I've been in the game he bought.  It's worse than awful. 

[Tale]

Adam McCall has left way too much information out there.

That got me intrigued. Aliases to google: Vertilious, brian72282, darcnier88

In 2003 (age 14?) he was a Dragon Empires fanboi in a would-be guild called the Red Dragons (gluttons for punishment who later got behind Dark & Light). He told them he had a company called HyperCore Corporation that was developing a MMOG and asked for their help in testing and developing. They enthusiastically agreed. Two years later, they seemed cynical when he claimed to have a company of 20 people working on a game called Draclian Signus. Their reaction was "remember the book? remember the last mmorpg?". He claimed the book in question existed and asked them to give him two weeks to upload it, but nobody remembered to follow up.

He received generous help with 3D modelling of trees, claiming it was for a school project. He posted on EQ emulation sites and co-ran an emulated server called Draclian Signus. When Dragon Empires was cancelled, he proposed buying out the technology, saying his companies were HyperCore and Sorizian Animation Gaming Studios. But later, when canvassing community reaction to buying out Mourning, he said Dragon Empires had been way too expensive.

Even before Mourning was shut down, he claimed he knew it would be shut down and was in negotiations to buy it, resulting in an awesome thread. Even while supposedly in these negotiations, he posted that Mourning's backer Dave could "lick my balls". A reply from Egomancer denied the buyout, but that didn't stop the thread.

As late as March this year, he was even posting on the Vanguard forums about licensing their modified Unreal engine.

And yes, back when a 17-year-old of today would have been aged 12, brian72282 was seeking threesomes on Yahoo and claiming to be 19. Makes me glad there was no Internet to record my childhood inquisitiveness.

[stray]

1) Where the hell did he get the money (I would think that even a piece of crap like Mourning would cost too much for a 12 year old...Or a 17 year old...Whatever)?

2) Why doesn't this story JUST END?? How could it get any more bizarre than it already was? WTF?

[Signe]

Maybe he got the money because he's mummie's proper little soldier!

[schild]

I bet he's the type of kid I would've beaten up on the playground. Also, he got picked last at dodgeball. Or whatever they do where he's from. Dodge a heavy rock.

[Tale]

I looked a bit more, and I think there might be two people behind the posts I linked. Adam McCall (darcnier88, vertilious) and Brian ____ (brian72282, who also goes by azurarutlan). Everything I linked is Adam, until the Mourning buyout which is where Brian kicks in. Adam is HyperCore Corporation and Brian is Sorizian Animation Gaming Studios. It's likely they met in the emu community and came together for the Dragon Empires bid.

It makes more sense because brian72282 was looking for a threesome and claiming to be 19 in 2001. Posting as Azurarutlan, he asked about 1980s cartoons and claimed to be married. If 72282 is 7/22/82, that would give Brian a 1980s cartoon-watching childhood and make him 19 in 2001. If darcnier88 means born in 1988, that fits with Adam's age.

Fun with azurarutlan and Rubies of Eventide:

I just wanted to post a message in hopes that some of the RoE team will catch it. While I'm unemployed right now and can't make a cash donation, I'd like to donate my time to the game. I can write stories and histories, as well as come up with some clever and ingenious quests if you need that sort of thing. Anything not pertaining to the actual code itself I can help with, and heck, if you tell me what code types this game is written in, I can learn it, and help with that if you need it. Not trying to be a fanboi or anything, I just have a lot of time on my hands right now, and would like to put it to a use that needs it.

Leading to an abortive event.

More on Brian's game industry career from the Rubies of Eventide forums:

Hey guys!

Sorry I've been gone for like 3 or 4 weeks. Just had a lot to do. Been spending almost 40 hours a week job hunting :/ Good news is I got 2 jobs. One volunteer (unpaid) and the other is unpaid at first (with potential to make a TON of money). Both happen to be in the gaming industry! So yea, it's cool, but at the same time, I'm finding myself in a bad situation. While I can play Rubies with my system (barely), my wife has been screaming at me to get her system up to specs to play. A little hard to do on $0 income on my end and hers barely pays the bills :/ Hate to be a beggar, but if any of you has a friend, are are one of those people who are ALWAYS upgrading to the newest stuff and getting rid of the semi-new stuff, drop me an email at brian72282@charter.net (braces for spam). I'd be greatly appreciated and no, I won't keep accepting stuff if I have enough to upgrade her system. Only need a decent vid card, and 2 sticks of 256 ram. IF it's laying around somewhere. Anyways, thanks in advance and hopefully I'll see everyone soon

Brian

Azurarutlan is banned from something called Ragezone. But someone quoted an Azurarutlan Ragezone post about Blizzard:

When I was a blizz fanboy (Don't dare change the y to an I, I'm not childish tongue.gif ) vuring closed beta I used to report private servers, because they told us they'd keep the monthly fee lower, and would reward us for doing this.  After I reported 5 servers, I asked them what kind of reward we'd get for continuing to do this.  They replied to me, "you'll have the knowledge that illegal servers aren't operating, that is reward enough."  The next day, the monthly fees were announced at $14.95/mo.  I officialy said ###### it, and have been trying to get on a team to work on a private server since, to stick it to those asshats at blizzard.

But best of all, Azurarutlan ran a cooking series for GirlzGameToo.

[nickatnight]

Mourning is back.

kinda misleading info don'cha think?  did that set off an uncontrolled spasm of nerd jolly's through
your body or something?  :-D
Looks like this entire thread is one big erotic conspiricy fest with no solid facts anywhere in it.

there are a few "facts" though....

Actually mourning doesn't appear to be "back". Probably some old assets being used.  As you can see the site is clearly called ThronesOfChaos and owned by a company called LoudAntSoftware llc who has done work for
companies like Sony Pictures and even done some things for Guild Wars.
http://www.sonypictures.com/games/thedavincicode/index.php?hs308=
http://www.sonypictures.com/games/bewitched
http://loudant.com/gallery/guildwars/index.html

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/709/709875p1.html



I dunno about all this "pron" stuff but if your really so hung up about companies being involved in pron (which probably 99% are) than maybe you should go cancel your cable TV since Time Warner has tons of adult channels on their networks... hell , even the owner of S2Games , savage 1 and 2 owns adultrevenueservice, like the biggest adult affiliate program on the net..
MarcD is his name I think.
I could even find posts he made on some huge adult webmaster forums showing off the game there if i really bother to look. everyone knows.. nobody cares. get over it.

[stray]

Huh?

People are posting about it because they like a trainwreck.  Mourning is the most worthless piece of shit in the history of MMO's (and that's saying something...Because they're all pieces of shit to begin with). Pr0n, 12 year old owners or not.

[schild]

The death of Wish was one of the most dramatic deaths ever. Never made it into a proper beta. Mourning could be a 200 page monster before this ends. Or 2 pages at LEAST.

[stray]

At least Wish had a design document. I think.

[LC]

Actually mourning doesn't appear to be "back". Probably some old assets being used.  As you can see the site is clearly called ThronesOfChaos and owned by a company called LoudAntSoftware llc who has done work for
companies like Sony Pictures and even done some things for Guild Wars.
http://www.sonypictures.com/games/thedavincicode/index.php?hs308=
http://www.sonypictures.com/games/bewitched
http://loudant.com/gallery/guildwars/index.html

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/709/709875p1.html



I dunno about all this "pron" stuff but if your really so hung up about companies being involved in pron (which probably 99% are) than maybe you should go cancel your cable TV since Time Warner has tons of adult channels on their networks... hell , even the owner of S2Games , savage 1 and 2 owns adultrevenueservice, like the biggest adult affiliate program on the net..
MarcD is his name I think.
I could even find posts he made on some huge adult webmaster forums showing off the game there if i really bother to look. everyone knows.. nobody cares. get over it.

Wow! I didn't know they developed those awesome flash games. That changes everything. I have never seen such high quality Bejeweled clones before. They are obviously a team of professionals with years of experience.

If you don't agree just look at the CEO of Loud Ant. 

[Soln]

does any of this possibly matter?  would you give your CC details to any of these people?  No

[Signe]

There's a good point.  I wonder if the sale of Mourning included the credit card details of those people who paid for the game?  Given the past behaviour of Porno Dave and the recent strangeness of whoever these new people are, I would not be at all surprised.

As for "nickatnight", keep your innocence, my old son.  Never grow up.  You are too cute for words!

[Spoonbender]

Oh no......

Also hi Signe and anyone else I might know :D

Signe, where did you find information that they're mostly the same people or based in Romania? I only saw some info that they were located in the US, but of course, that was what *they* claimed...

As for their "experience"?
Yikes...
The Da Vinci Code and Bewitched games were made by the old developers.

[Lum]

When the aliens come and cleanse us from the planet in fire, I plan on blaming Myspace pages like that.

[Lantyssa]

But best of all, Azurarutlan ran a cooking series for GirlzGameToo.

I wish Schild would run a cooking series.  His recipe in the game-a-day threads looked delicious.

[Signe]

Oh no......

Also hi Signe and anyone else I might know :D

Signe, where did you find information that they're mostly the same people or based in Romania? I only saw some info that they were located in the US, but of course, that was what *they* claimed...

As for their "experience"?
Yikes...
The Da Vinci Code and Bewitched games were made by the old developers.

I saw it on one of the new people's websites.  Someone asked a question in their forums and the guy from the new company said that they had kept some of the same devs.  I'll see if I can find it.  I just don't remember where it was.

Edit:

THIS is the first post I saw on that particular subject:

    Originally posted by Greatness

        Originally posted by skullbreaker

            Originally posted by Greatness
            A new company bought the old out meaning new people are developing it.

        Don't be so quick to assume that. We have a lot of reasons to believe that the old dev team was simply rolled over into Loud Ant software. New name, new image, same BS.

    I didn't assume it. They said in forums.

They've said a lot of things on the forums. Fact remains that we know that Adonys and Egomancer have at least worked for Loud Ant in the past (Adonys was bragging about making their awesome game for Sony a while back). And Colton is a real estate agent or something like that, who do you think is going to make his game? The 17 year old internet kiddies at Nuanced Entertainment?

If you want some real facts click the link in my sig, we have done the research for you.

http://www.krelslibrary.org
THE SOURCE for the truth about Mourning

The post where I thought one of the new owners or someone said that "yes, some of the developers from the old game are still here"  seems to have poofed, or I can't find it.  I was pretty sure it was on the official board.  The people associated with the game now claim that no dev involved with the old game is on the new dev team.  I'm sure I didn't accidentally make it up!   It also seems odd that Adonys and Egomonster both worked for Loud Ant in the past.  I do remember them chatting about their great game that Sony or someone published.  One of the companies say they also work for NCsoft.  Sheesh.. who knows?   It's not like anyone is going to play this horrible thing!

PS  Hiya, Aelf!

[Tale]

Actually mourning doesn't appear to be "back". Probably some old assets being used.  As you can see the site is clearly called ThronesOfChaos and owned by a company called LoudAntSoftware llc

The only reason I can think of to register and make that post would be some connection with LoudAnt or one of the people named above. It's like something Brian would do.

I jumped into this thread and dug up Adam and Brian's pasts only because:
* It's an interesting journey of kids obsessed with MMOGs and their desperate urge to be MMOG developers.
* I'm not claiming to be good at it, but I work in news journalism. Piecing information together is a good workout.

Mourning is a standard topic for a MMOG forum in the Lum the Mad diaspora. You may want to convince the world that you haven't resurrected Mourning and you're only using its assets, but it's unlikely to wash here. And Porno Dave is Porno Dave, but that was the only time porn was mentioned in the thread. Why did that set you off? Is there another way this is all linked to porn?

[UD_Delt]

Is there another way this is all linked to porn?

Doesn't it all eventually come back around to porn? It's 80% of the reason most of us have internet connections to begin with...

[Morfiend]

Mourning is back.

kinda misleading info don'cha think?  did that set off an uncontrolled spasm of nerd jolly's through
your body or something?  :-D
Looks like this entire thread is one big erotic conspiricy fest with no solid facts anywhere in it.

there are a few "facts" though....

Actually mourning doesn't appear to be "back". Probably some old assets being used.  As you can see the site is clearly called ThronesOfChaos and owned by a company called LoudAntSoftware llc who has done work for
companies like Sony Pictures and even done some things for Guild Wars.
http://www.sonypictures.com/games//index.php?hs308=
http://www.sonypictures.com/games/bewitched
http://loudant.com/gallery/guildwars/index.html

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/709/709875p1.html



I dunno about all this "pron" stuff but if your really so hung up about companies being involved in pron (which probably 99% are) than maybe you should go cancel your cable TV since Time Warner has tons of adult channels on their networks... hell , even the owner of S2Games , savage 1 and 2 owns adultrevenueservice, like the biggest adult affiliate program on the net..
MarcD is his name I think.
I could even find posts he made on some huge adult webmaster forums showing off the game there if i really bother to look. everyone knows.. nobody cares. get over it.

Hello new friend. Welcome. We like new people here, and we are completely oblivious to bad pr spin. Can we hold hands and sing songs?

The internet is serious business.

[HaemishM]

http://www.myspace.com/blackhat840

Myspace of Nuanced Entertainment's owner. He cleaned it up a lot since I first saw it. The colors were changed, and most of the content was removed.

Thank you for reminding me why I hate MySpace.

[Simond]

When the aliens come and cleanse us from the planet in fire, I plan on blaming Myspace pages like that.

I welcome our new Myspace-cleansing overlords.

[Lionhunter]

So,there are no more romanians working on this?

[Righ]

It says in your profile that you are from Romania and your sig is very suspicious. What news of the Abysmal engine?