PS3 renders PCs obsolete

[eldaec]

Every dipshit in every trailer park in america has a PS2. They'll eventually get a PS3, and when they eventually move to HD, they'll have an installed base of BluRay players that HD-DVD simply can't touch. PS3 shipping with BluRay ends the battle, period.

This assumes that a winner does not emerge and achieve coronation by the movie publishers before the PS3 costs $250.

It's not a totally unreasonable possibility - but I'm not sure it's a dead cert either.

[HaemishM]

Two mistakes.
It's $500 not $600,
Japan matters. A lot.

Look, no gamer is going to buy the $500 system when they can buy the $600 system, just like no gamer will buy the $300 360 Core when the $400 is available. It's just not happening. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about gaming and gamers would acknowledge that. Parents might buy that for their kids, but parents are idiots anyway who buy their kids GTA and then bitch when little Johnny FapFap beats hookers with giant dildos.

Wii has made a technological advance; it just isn't in sweat pixels, it's in something that matters. Gameplay and interface.

[HaemishM]

Planetside at 5'. Oooh yeah (though I'd honestly like a 9' projector screen instead! And that pic is from 2003, not 1999). Imo the only reason for not having hdtv if you're a gamer is that you have a wife/girlfriend who is not properly supportive of your hobbies :)

Or you just can't fucking afford it. Seriously, I know it's the bees knees and all, and while I may want one, I cannot afford one when my regular TV works.

[Velorath]

Planetside at 5'. Oooh yeah (though I'd honestly like a 9' projector screen instead! And that pic is from 2003, not 1999). Imo the only reason for not having hdtv if you're a gamer is that you have a wife/girlfriend who is not properly supportive of your hobbies :)

Years of PC gaming have allowed me to adjust to not having top of the line graphics.  I'm not the guy who runs out and gets the latest graphics cards and has a nice monitor.  Likewise I'm not the guy that's going to run out and buy a PS3 and an HDTV.  I could afford it if I wanted to, but really I just don't give a fuck.  It's a hobby, not a way of life.

[Sky]

Hey, my pc is two years old. I just have a nice monitor is all. Haemmy, I'm just busting balls with the wifey comment, but if it were just a tv, I wouldn't have bought it. That's just a nice bonus. Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).

This assumes that a winner does not emerge and achieve coronation by the movie publishers before the PS3 costs $250.

I still stand behind the PS3 being the deciding factor. I know a ton of people waiting for it (everyone who owns a PS2 that I know), and these are almost all guys making $7-8/hr with families to support, yet they still found the money for an hdtv. Do not underestimate the lower-income folk's need for home entertainment. But even so, I still feel the PS3 install base (plus a few expensive standalone BluRay players) will far surpass the install base of HD-DVD as 360 add-on and expensive standalone players. I don't see how a movie exec could see otherwise, either.

Maybe if second revision 360s have the HD-DVD player, or the HD-DVD standalone players drop to DVD player prices exceedingly fast.

Do you mean GTA6?

Err....yeah. The next one.

I'd like to get some opinions and rationale from anyone who is going to get a PS3 at $600, yet pass over the 360 and Wii.

I'm tempted, for the BluRay and GTA6. I have a hard time buying a console for a couple games, though. I don't buy but maybe a half-dozen a year unless I dip into the bargain bin. Anyone know about any price gouging on games for the PS3 the way MS gouges for 3rd party 360 games? That alone leaves a shitty taste in my mouth when I can buy many new pc games at $40.

[Yegolev]

I don't have any confirmation of $60-$70 PS3 games, but with 360 setting the bar and Sony's arrogance, I see it as a possibility.

I seem to remember paying $70 for Final Fantasy III on the SNES at release.

[Sky]

Wii classic games under $10

[schild]

Yea, saw that about the Rev titles. And, for the most part, that's too costly.

[Velorath]

Yea, saw that about the Rev titles. And, for the most part, that's too costly.

It's a little more costly than I would have liked.  On the other hand are the games going to be downloaded to a memory card, or will you have to be online to play them?  If it's possible for you and your friends to copy games to each others memory cards, it wouldn't be so bad paying $4.50-8.99 a game.

[schild]

There is 512 megs of internal memory for storage and there is an SD card slot on the machine.

[Yegolev]

The "high" price of a VC game is surely offset by the fact that I don't have to get off my lazy ass to buy and subsequently play one.  Contrast with either emulating Super Metroid or repairing/replacing the SNES, and I am OK with it.

[Margalis]

$10 is fine with me. And who is to say they will all be $10? I'm guessing that 8-bit NES games probably won't be $10.

[Merusk]

Yeah, $10 isn't too bad at all.  It's better than the $19.99 for the classics on the Advance, and it's not like I'm planning on buying the entire library of old Nintendo games.  Only a crazy-man like Schild might try and do that.   Most folks might have 5-10 games they'll want to nab and that'll be it.

[Strazos]

Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).

Ski equipment lasts a hell of a lot longer than a PC or TV.

[Sairon]

Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).

Ski equipment lasts a hell of a lot longer than a PC or TV.

Yea but unless you live nearby a ski resort the trips gets fairly expensive.

[Strazos]

Hmm...yeah, I forgot I'm not the one paying for our timeshare ownership. 

[HaemishM]

$10 is fine with me. And who is to say they will all be $10? I'm guessing that 8-bit NES games probably won't be $10.

The world needs more games (even older ones) for $10 or less.

[Sairon]

$10 or less is fine for GC games, perhaps even for a handfull of N64 games. Sorry but for NES games I wouldn't shell out more than a buck or two, if I wanted to go retro with NES games I would buy a NES and shitton of games for practicly nothing, since I want the NES controller in that case.

[Toast]

There's value in the integration of the old games into one single, accessible system. You might be the kind of guy who will have a big pile of clunky old electronics piled up in front of the television with wires, controllers, and stacks of games. That stuff doesn't fly at my apartment.

[Sky]

Sounds like Toast needs a closet.

[Strazos]

There's something to be said for the convienence of being able to simply download all the old games through your Wii. You don't have to go out and find all the old games. You don't have to putz around with the NES not loading games up correctly. And you don't have to deal with the mess.