Gun Safety DEA style

[Gutboy Barrelhouse]

From the Smoking Gun:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0411061foot1.html

[schild]

Awesome.

Edit: Goddamn he takes that bullet like a champ. Jesus.

[Llava]

What about Reckless Endangerment or something like that?  Having a loaded gun in a crowded room like that, if I were him I'd wouldn't start bringing up the word "lawsuit".

[Telemediocrity]

[HaemishM]

You got to give him credit for trying to continue the presentation without screaming in pain and clutching his foot.

But damn. Nothing like saying "I'm the only one professional enough in this room to use this gun" and then shooting yourself in the foot.

/selfowned

[Mortriden]

Holy shit!  That guy is a god damn machine.  He actually turned it into a pretty good learning experience...

[WayAbvPar]

I am wondering how the hell the round got chambered...did he do it on the sly to try to make a point (and hit himself in the foot because he is an idiot), or was there a clip in it that chambered?

[Logain]

I am wondering how the hell the round got chambered...did he do it on the sly to try to make a point (and hit himself in the foot because he is an idiot), or was there a clip in it that chambered?

He probably dropped the clip out and forgot to actually check the chamber for a round.

[Samwise]

I love the reactions when he brings out the other "empty gun"....

[WayAbvPar]

I am wondering how the hell the round got chambered...did he do it on the sly to try to make a point (and hit himself in the foot because he is an idiot), or was there a clip in it that chambered?

He probably dropped the clip out and forgot to actually check the chamber for a round.

The chamber was open when he was showing it to the class. Hence my confusion...

[Miasma]

The timing on that was just too perfect, if it wasn't for that lawsuit I would have assumed it was fake, but I guess it's real.  I mean a trained federal agent doesn't know his own gun is loaded, he just happens to say that horribly ironic "I'm the only one professional enough" statement, for some reason he felt the urge to pull the trigger which had no purpose if the gun was empty, he hits himself in the foot, his only reaction to being shot is a pronounced limp and finally it just happened to be videotaped?  What are the chances of all that, some statistician could make a thesis out of this.

[Lantyssa]

I am wondering how the hell the round got chambered...did he do it on the sly to try to make a point (and hit himself in the foot because he is an idiot), or was there a clip in it that chambered?

I can only think of two things:

1) There was a loaded clip in it.  The video showed the action open and him closing it before it fired.  It looked liked he cocked the gun (and maybe had someone verify it was unloaded) as he walked off-screen, however it was tough to see and I don't feel like watching it repeatedly.   The pistols I am familiar with will not lock open if there is a bullet in the clip.  So either I am seeing things wrong or something weird happened there.

2) A round got stuck in the breech and without peering into it he would not have known it was there (although one should always check).  When he released the action, the bullet was already chambered and waiting to ruin his undercover career.

[Miasma]

Some nice stuff in that legal filing.

• His lawyer claims he was considered "one of the best undercover agents, if not the best, in the DEA."  That's quite a boast, especially considering that in the same paragraph it says he "had to be rescued by other agents on two of these occasions (armed confrontations)" and that he got an informant killed.
• That wasn't an inner city school, it was the "Orlando Youth Minority Golf Association".
• His own lawyer actually makes a point of saying that he shot himself seconds after saying that he was a professional.
• For some reason the DEA took the original video and only gave the owner back an edited version with the shooting cut out.  Aside from how questionable that is, it means his buddies at the agency had to leak this on to the internet.
• It states that Google recorded 347,000 hits for "DEA Agent Shoots Himself" and that it has been played on Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimbel etc.
• White supremacy organizations have used the videotape to ridicule black Americans in general and Mr. Paige in particular?!?
• It says he can no longer work as an undercover agent because of this and yet earlier noted many public activities he had worked on against drugs.
• "As a result of the notoriety arising from the disclosure of the videotape, Mr. Paige is no longer permitted or able to give educational motivational speeches and presentations" - heh.

[HaemishM]

• "As a result of the notoriety arising from the disclosure of the videotape, Mr. Paige is no longer permitted or able to give educational motivational speeches and presentations" - heh.

It should have said "without a foot vest."

[Roac]

It says he can no longer work as an undercover agent because of this and yet earlier noted many public activities he had worked on against drugs.

Then he shouldn't have worn a shirt saying POLICE on it, period, video camera or no.  If you don't want badguys knowing who you are, don't go public with who you are.

I really, really wish the courts would fine against people who make dumbass lawsuits like this.  Not only do you pay court fees and defendant fees, but slap their ass with a fine for wasting everyone's time.

[Telemediocrity]

Is this a dumbass lawsuit?  Sure, some of his claims are bullshit, but the DEA leaking the video seems potentially actionable.

[Llava]

White supremacy organizations have used the videotape to ridicule black Americans in general and Mr. Paige in particular?!?

Man, and I can think of so many, too.

Mostly they're not funny unless you think racism is funny.  And racism is never funny. 

[schild]

White supremacy organizations have used the videotape to ridicule black Americans in general and Mr. Paige in particular?!?

Mostly they're not funny unless you think racism is funny. And racism is never funny.

You're wrong.



It's a lost art. I know.

[squirrel]

I know it's been said - but holy fuck he takes that well. I mean DAYUM! Basically 'fuck i just shot myself, ah well, walk it off..."

[angry.bob]

I know it's been said - but holy fuck he takes that well. I mean DAYUM! Basically 'fuck i just shot myself, ah well, walk it off..."

No doubt. As a teen I shot myself in the hand ith a .22 and practically went into shock. It stung like nothing else I've ever had happen to me, and that bullet was half the size of what he put into himself.

[Lantyssa]

That was impressive.

[Gutboy Barrelhouse]

Thats a pro football player for you, hell they play the game with broken bones. A little .40 cal bullet wound wil not stop them.

[Sky]

And racism is never funny.

Interviewer: Alright, Mr. Wilson, you've done just fine on the Rorshact.. your papers are in good order.. your file's fine.. no difficulties with your motor skills.. And I think you're probably ready for this job. We've got one more psychological test we always do here. It's just a Word Association. I'll throw you out a few words - anything that comes to your mind, just throw back at me, okay? It's kind of an arbitrary thing. Like, if I say "dog", you'd say..?

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Tree". [ nods head, prepares the test papers ] "Dog".

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Fast".

Mr. Wilson: "Slow".

Interviewer: "Rain".

Mr. Wilson: "Snow".

Interviewer: "White".

Mr. Wilson: "Black".

Interviewer: "Bean".

Mr. Wilson: "Pod".

Interviewer: [ casually ] "Negro".

Mr. Wilson: "Whitey".

Interviewer: "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: [ silent, sure he didn't hear what he thinks he heard ] What'd you say?

Interviewer: [ repeating ] "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: "Ofay".

Interviewer: "Colored".

Mr. Wilson: "Redneck".

Interviewer: "Junglebunny".

Mr. Wilson: [ starting to get angry ] "Peckerwood!"

Interviewer: "Burrhead".

Mr. Wilson: [ defensive ] "Cracker!"

Interviewer: [ aggressive ] "Spearchucker".

Mr. Wilson: "White trash!"

Interviewer: "Jungle Bunny!"

Mr. Wilson: [ upset ] "Honky!"

Interviewer: "Spade!

Mr. Wilson: [ really upset ] "Honky Honky!"

Interviewer: [ relentless ] "Nigger!"

Mr. Wilson: [ immediate ] "Dead honky!" [ face starts to flinch ]

Interviewer: [ quickly wraps the interview up ] Okay, Mr. Wilson, I think you're qualified for this job. How about a starting salary of $5,000?

Mr. Wilson: Your momma!

Interviewer: [ fumbling ] Uh.. $7,500 a year?

Mr. Wilson: Your grandmomma!

Interviewer: [ desperate ] $15,000, Mr. Wilson. You'll be the highest paid janitor in America. Just, don't.. don't hurt me, please..

Mr. Wilson: Okay.

Interviewer: [ relieved ] Okay.

Mr. Wilson: You want me to start now?

Interviewer: Oh, no, no.. that's alright. I'll clean all this up. Take a couple of weeks off, you look tired.

[tazelbain]

> Ofay

Learn something new everyday.

[Murgos]

Mostly they're not funny unless you think racism is funny.  And racism is never funny. 

[schild]

Hey, it's Violet Beauregarde.

[Ironwood]

What the hell did this thread become ?

Don't Do That to the Angry Baby.

[Gutboy Barrelhouse]

Thread is about gun,stupid, owned. Please redirect comments to those topics please.

Thanks

[Lantyssa]

The agent told what happened in an interview:

Paige, 45, of Windermere, told NBC's "Today" show Friday he cleared the weapon but forgot to release the magazine.

Pure carelessness/stupidity.

[Llava]

Mostly they're not funny unless you think racism is funny.  And racism is never funny. 

[eldaec]

From another article on the site....

Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the edge of roof of the 300-foot Federal Building, and tosses it up in the air with a velocity of 20 feet per second. The height of the watermelon above the ground t seconds later is given by formula... <descent into mathematics follows>

Now apparently in 2006 this gets passed around as a practice test and...

The practice test was distributed to students in an intermediate algebra class at Bellevue Community College, and has triggered an uproar at the school. In a meeting yesterday, Bellevue President Jean Floten apologized to students for the act of "institutional racism" and pledged that the school would step up efforts to improve racial sensitivity. The college has declined to identify which teacher created the test, but Floten said the instructor has apologized and is seeking sensitivity training. The practice test was given to students as an actual final exam in 2004, though nobody apparently objected at the time.

Now... I might be being a little slow here... is this some crazy colonial thing I wouldn't understand?...

[Murgos]

Black people like watermelon, lolz.

It's stupid.  If the question has said Condoleeza throws an orange up in the air...

No one would blink an eye, so does that mean that the watermelon is the racist article?

Or if it had said Fred throws a watermelon up in the air...

No one would have cared, so does that mean that the name is the racist factor?  But point 1 showed that it wasn't the name and point 2 showed that it wasn't the fruit, so it must be the special circumstance of name and fruit.  So now someone tell me why the fuck can't someone named Condoleeza throw a watermelon?

[HaemishM]

It took me reading through the second quoted part to determine what was wrong with that test. Maybe it if had said Haemish throws a watermelon, it might have been ok? I don't know, my mind doesn't work that way. Maybe Ironwood can tell me.

[eldaec]

Googling Condaleeza and Watermelon in search of an explanation gives a number of conservative blogs claiming that the real problem is that this is apparently a left wing plot to undermine black people in right wing governments.

They are are largely unclear on how this process of undermining works.

Also, here's a fun quote from someone claiming to be one of the students involved...

It's not just the question; it's beyond the question. It's the roots of where the question came from.

So that's that cleared up then.

Another exchange from some other place...

Is it a seedless watermelon?

That certainly would affect its acceleration!

It’s not a question of seeds vs. seedless. It’s a simple question of weight ratios. A 150 lb. woman simply could not thrust a watermelon upward at a velocity of 20 ft/sec. Not even if she’s an African .... er...

But seedless watermelons are tropical and Washington is a temperate zone….

[Llava]

It was more than likely just an accident on the part of the professor.  If he was trying to be racist, there are much more effective things he could be doing than associating a watermelon with a black person.