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on: April 07, 2006, 12:07:56 AM


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Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 01:12:22 AM

The toughguy background music in the video really illustrated how sad those people are.

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Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 01:25:00 AM

So they had a funeral in game for someone who died in real life on a PvP server? Whoops. Gotta say, I'm not big on bad taste, but that's like holding a funeral in the middle of Baghdad or Fallujah. Why would someone do that?

Edit: Oh, and this whole event will go down as legendary in WoW circles. Some will call it terrible taste. Some will call it the best thing ever. But what they did just there, illustrated that it's STILL A GAME. Doesn't matter if you're holding fucking Sunday mass, you're a bunch of targets gathered in one place Not Ready for Battle.

The use of Where Eagles Dare was actually pretty well placed. And that attack was astounding in it's efficiency.
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Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 01:42:46 AM

So, you're saying you basically have no empathy (online, presumably) whatsoever. That is the classic definition of a sociopath, by the way.

Thought it fit here.

Pretty fucked up.  I don't care if it was a PvP server- some shit you just don't do because you're a halfway decent human being.

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Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 01:49:42 AM

To which I respond:

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Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 01:53:37 AM

You bastard.

I have no idea what else to say.

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Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 01:54:47 AM

Hey, at least I'm not trolling when I stir shit up. :P
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Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 02:58:32 AM

This is fairly old. It happened in January or February I think - I remember reading the WoW board thread - and the (overproduced) video was uploaded to Google on March 7.
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Reply #8 on: April 07, 2006, 09:25:04 AM

Internet.

It's an asshole thing to do, but within the rules of the server. The video was amusing, but they're just some WoW guild. Who gives a shit about them, really?

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Reply #9 on: April 07, 2006, 11:53:18 AM

Video is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too long for that little content.  They also should have started with the funeral and then switched to the raiders. 

As for empathy, I feel bad for them if they were just stupid.  However, I think it's more likely that they were asking for it to the point of actually wanting it to happen.  They could've had this in any number of safe zones.  They posted a **HEY EVERYBODY THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF UNARMED TARGETS IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTESTED ZONE AT THIS EXACT TIME BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T PK US THX** message on the server forum.  I have trouble believing they were that stupid and suspect that they were looking for something to get righteously indignant about.

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Reply #10 on: April 07, 2006, 12:32:21 PM

Ahh reminds me of weddings or other player gatherings in UO. When you don't have rice to throw, you're forced to improvise with purple potions and ebolts.

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Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 01:20:54 PM

The people who were participating in the funeral were just plain stupid. If you announce to people that you are having an in-game event and it would be really swell if the other team left you alone, you can just guarantee someone is going to try to grief them.

When Planetside first started, it had 4 US servers. The populations on the servers weren't high enough so they eventually combined the 2 smaller servers into the 2 larger ones. Konreid was getting merged into the Emerald server. As a last hurrah, people on Konreid declared a general cease-fire and congregated on that tiny island off the south coast of Cyssor. You had people from all 3 sides standing around chatting, trading vehicles and equipment, taking screenshots of yourself with people you've only seen through a rifle's scope. People were having a great time until a fleet of Liberators (bomber aircraft) flew over the island and took out everything. The Enclave, a TR outfit of good players who were also griefers and jackasses, had about 200 kills in about 10 seconds. All the people on the island were pissed off, but the Enclave just said that they saw the enemy there and they killed them. Since the TR soldiers on the island weren't firing, they said they were traitors and deserved to die.
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Reply #12 on: April 07, 2006, 02:31:16 PM

It does seem like, if they really wanted to pay their respects, they should've done so in Stormwind or Orgrimaar.

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Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 06:21:34 PM

It does seem like, if they really wanted to pay their respects, they should've done so in Stormwind or Orgrimaar.

Perfect solution. 

I laughed my ass off when the Scatman song came on.  Was kind of perfect.  TBH I relate more to the people who had the funeral than the people who crashed it, but this was really funny.  How basic is it to assume that an event like this is going to get crashed?  On a pvp server...in contested territory...lol
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Reply #14 on: April 08, 2006, 08:31:03 AM

Assholes will take every oppurtunity given to them to be assholes. Would you expect any less?

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Reply #15 on: April 08, 2006, 08:40:45 AM

I don't see these people as assholes. I wouldn't even consider this griefing. This was a highly organized, highly efficient attack on some morons. Who, for a lack of better words, "had it coming."
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Reply #16 on: April 08, 2006, 08:50:36 AM

I can't really blame them for taking advantage, but these are the same chucklefucks who gank lowbies in STV and camp for no reason.

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Reply #17 on: April 08, 2006, 09:07:02 AM

I laughed. It was actually pretty funny. What's probably sadder is that this dude had more people at his online funeral than his real life one.

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Reply #18 on: April 08, 2006, 12:22:09 PM

I don't see it as amusing nor shocking nor surprising nor even particularly interesting.

Agree with Llava (why didn't they do it in SW or Org - unless there were people attending from both factions), and Strazos (same bozos who gank in STV).

Maybe I just need some Pamprin to see the humor in it, but seems like mostly a big yawn that people pvp on pvp servers, and don't respect other people.  Yeah, I already know that.

I think it would be funner/funnier if it had been a wedding.
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Reply #19 on: April 08, 2006, 03:15:26 PM

Those people logged in the account of the dead girls character and had her laying down by the water.  How fucking sick is that shit???  I think the funeral crashers should get  a medal for putting a stop to that.

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Reply #20 on: April 08, 2006, 03:53:28 PM

When the "dead" player turns out to be alive and well, the funeral party will be doubly used.  evil

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Reply #21 on: April 08, 2006, 04:18:57 PM

I laughed. It was actually pretty funny. What's probably sadder is that this dude had more people at his online funeral than his real life one.

A well-respected player my guild died IRL, and I think we had more virtual attendees than he had real ones. We had the service in Orgrimmar, cuz what did the Alliance care? Plus we got more ppl walking by and finding out about it.
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Reply #22 on: April 08, 2006, 05:39:39 PM

Player funerals have happend a number of times in WWIIOL.  There are no safe areas in that game, and even with players of both sides attending, I have never heard of anything close to this happening.
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Reply #23 on: April 08, 2006, 05:47:59 PM

You don't drive by a funeral and honk your horn in RL because "You can" and "They deserve it".

On the other hand. Go to a frigin non-pvp server and be smart. This is the internet and the land of no accountability.

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Reply #24 on: April 08, 2006, 11:26:40 PM

You don't drive by a funeral and honk your horn in RL because "You can" and "They deserve it".

Ah, analogies.  If people in real life had the ability to automagically hold events with a 100% probability of absolutely no disruption (see: holding in safe zones/cities) people would be a lot less sympathetic to the people who "OMG HAD THEIR EVENT DISRUPTED".

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Reply #25 on: April 09, 2006, 12:58:13 AM

Don't get me wrong- it was dumb of them to not have this in a safe zone.

But I still think the disruptors are dicks.

This is exactly what this:
Right. And this is the thing about Trammel and other MMOG restraints that most PKs/griefers will never understand. They brought it on themselves. If they had shown just an ounce of personal restraint, if they hadn't searched the event calendar for player weddings/funerals to disrupt, if they hadn't gone out of their way to target and harass player towns, if they hadn’t searched for every conceivable bug to loot someone’s house, and if they hadn't killed every naked miner at every opportunity, maybe, just maybe Trammel would never have happened. But as Televangilist said, the game let them do it. And by letting them do it, the developer lost subscribers. So they did the obvious thing - they stopped letting them do it. That's why the "but the game let me do it" argument doesn't hold water and in fact, is a self-fulfilling prophecy towards restraints.
was about.

These people are the reason we can't have nice things.  I'm certainly not patting them on the back.  The people having the funeral were foolishly naive for expecting any better of their fellow gamers- but that doesn't excuse those guys for NOT having the class to let it be.  Any number of real-world analogies will showcase this.

I do consider it griefing, and I do consider it a dick move on their part.  But it's not shocking, really.  If anything, it just reaffirms what we already know about players of these type:  that there is nothing too sacred, nothing too low.  And we just have to live with the fact that those people represent a good portion of our hobby's fanbase.

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Reply #26 on: April 09, 2006, 07:23:35 AM

Weddings in UO were just as bad; you spend 2 hours getting lined up perfectly all facing one direction, getting ready for the prescession, then word gets out and it all goes to hell... I was at one of the first ones and suddenly you see a vortex out of the corner of the screen... people run in, dump fire walls, and it pretty much broke into a general melee from there.. it was maybe 10 people with 30-40 in the 'wedding party'. I got 3, died, and by time I came back they were long gone. One of the bodies had a rune on it, though - One of your standard Red Vendor towns; We made them pay by camping that thing day and night, killing them over and over again.

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Reply #27 on: April 09, 2006, 07:55:41 AM

I think it is hilarious and I am glad it is pissing off so many.  Why should anybody show restraint when the game does not give them any compelling reason for doing so?
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Reply #28 on: April 09, 2006, 08:44:09 AM

I think it is hilarious and I am glad it is pissing off so many.  Why should anybody show restraint when the game does not give them any compelling reason for doing so?
I'll refer you to the multi-page sub-thread involving Tele instead of repeating ten pages of posts.  Just because people can be sociopathic asses with no reprecussions does not mean they should be.

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Reply #29 on: April 09, 2006, 10:40:30 AM

If people in real life had the ability to automagically hold events with a 100% probability of absolutely no disruption (see: holding in safe zones/cities)

Sure they do.  Just hold every wedding in a bank vault, and you're pretty darn safe from disruptions.

That means it's cool to pelt people with tomatoes if they hold outdoor weddings where you can get to them, rite?
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Reply #30 on: April 09, 2006, 11:41:20 AM

The dread lord days are over.  They chose WoW, they chose a PVP server, and they chose a contested zone.  If they didn't want to get azzraped, they had a funny way of showing it.  Fuck 'em.

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Reply #31 on: April 09, 2006, 11:49:18 AM

MMOG's don't hold up to any real world analogies because real world societies are able to impose real world consequences on people displaying unacceptable behavior. MMOG's are simply quasi-societies lacking any form of real consequence, so people have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want. That's why crap like this is funny to me, because sometimes people seem to gloss over that fact when they hold in-game events. It's a big reason why I'd like to play a game that enforces real penalties to players being idiots. Real money fines would be a neat idea I think. Want to be a dickhead and keep playing the game? It's gonna cost you big.
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Reply #32 on: April 09, 2006, 12:34:03 PM

If you want to use real world analogies it would be like busting up a funeral were they where using the corpse as a marionette and making it perform.

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Reply #33 on: April 09, 2006, 01:28:18 PM



omg boobs

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Reply #34 on: April 09, 2006, 01:29:18 PM

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