Be careful sharing a computer with your fiance/spouse/SO

[Trippy]

From the Mozilla/Firefox bug database:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330884#c0

User-Agent:       Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET
CLR 1.1.4322)
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1)
Gecko/20060111 Firefox/1.5.0.1

This privacy flaw has caused my fiancé and I to break-up after having dated for
5 years.

Basically, we share one computer but under separate Windows XP user accounts.
We both use Mozilla Firefox -- well, he used to use it more than I do but now
we don't really use it.  The privacy flaw is this: when he went to log-in under
his dating sites (jdate.com, swinglifestyle.com, adultfriendfinder.com, etc.),
Mozilla promptly asks whether or not he'd like Firefox to save the passwords
for him.  He chose never, obviously.  However, when he logged off his user
account, and I logged onto my Windows XP account X amount of days later, I
decided to use Firefox because hey -- it loaded everything much more
efficiently, was better to work on with website designs and is a lot more
stable than IE7beta2.

Firefox prompted whether or not I'd like it to save my password for logging
into my website.  I chose never and changed my mind.  I went into the Password
Manager to change the saved password option from Never to Always and that's
when I saw all these other sites that had been selected as "Never Save
Password."  Of course, those were sites I had never visited or could ever dream
of visiting.

Then I realized who, how and what...  and sh*t hit the fan.  Your browser does
not efficiently respect the privacy of different users for one system.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create 2 unique user accounts (for steps sake, let's call the two accounts
Joe and Mary) in Windows XP Home.
2. Logout and sign-in under Joe.
3. Open Firefox and go to an e-mail site or to jdate.com or wherever.
4. Attempt to log-in to the site so that Firefox will ask whether or not you
want your password saved.
5. Choose not to save the password.
6. After successfully logging in and having selected the "never save password"
option, logout.
7. Log-in as Mary and open Firefox.
8. Browse, browse, browse... but you don't really have to.  Just go to "View
Saved Passwords," click on the tab that will show you sites to never save
passwords for, and you'll see whatever painful site Joe denied to save a
password for.
9. Break-up with fiancé.

Firefox should be respecting every single area of privacy per user on one
system.  It's not doing that...  I'm going to submit this as Major because not
everyone shares one computer, but it should really be considered Critical.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, that's always embarrassing.  Like your wife finding your collection of Japanese women eating each other out.

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So I'm told.

[shiznitz]

Luckily, my wife thinks that the "test" login ID is for me to actually test stuff.

[Mr_PeaCH]

Might not want to let your SO run the adaware clean ups either; stuff tends to turn up in the temp folders even for accounts they didn't have any idea existed and sometimes with pretty incriminating file names.

Just sayin'

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah, that's always embarrassing.  Like your wife finding your collection of Japanese women eating each other out.

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So I'm told.

Heh. Tread lightly around the hormonal storm that is a woman expecting  :-D

[Roac]

Might not want to let your SO run the adaware clean ups either; stuff tends to turn up in the temp folders even for accounts they didn't have any idea existed and sometimes with pretty incriminating file names.

Or you could just tell them whatever wierd stuff you happen to look at is, and let them walk if they object.  Cheaper than a divorce, less embrassing than breaking off an engagement, and one less thing to worry about.

Or stop looking at it.

[RhyssaFireheart]

I'm more amazed that the woman posting that seemed more upset at the fact that FF didn't keep user accounts separate than the fact her SO was looking at whatever sites were inappropriate.  So she's not mad that a glitch/feature/whateveritwas let her find out the SO wasn't exactly being faithful/honest with her? 

Solution is to each have your own computer, then he can browse his hentai tentacle rape porn in peace, and she can browse her erotic fanfic poetry sites in peace, and never the discussion happen about lack of honesty in a relationship.

[Triforcer]

I'm more amazed that the woman posting that seemed more upset at the fact that FF didn't keep user accounts separate than the fact her SO was looking at whatever sites were inappropriate.  So she's not mad that a glitch/feature/whateveritwas let her find out the SO wasn't exactly being faithful/honest with her? 

Solution is to each have your own computer, then he can browse his hentai tentacle rape porn in peace, and she can browse her erotic fanfic poetry sites in peace, and never the discussion happen about lack of honesty in a relationship.

Womens' counterattack to internet porn is to read erotic poetry?  Umm, owned, I guess. 

[RhyssaFireheart]

I honestly wouldn't know, but it sounded good. *shrug*  I'm usually spending too much time gaming to worry about poetry, erotic or otherwise.

[Lantyssa]

Erotic fanfic poetry?  Please.  Yaoi is all the rage.  And yaoi fanfic.  No poetry though.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Yaoi is all the rage.  And yaoi fanfic.

Dare I even ask what yaoi is?  Probably not, nor do I think google would be my friend here.

[tazelbain]

I read (don't care to look it up) that modern romance novels are moving toward erotica. Just wanted to through that in.

[tazelbain]

Yaoi is all the rage.  And yaoi fanfic.

Dare I even ask what yaoi is?  Probably not, nor do I think google would be my friend here.

wikipedia is safer.

[Furiously]

I learned it isnt after I wikipedia'd lemonparty.

[RhyssaFireheart]

I learned it isnt after I wikipedia'd lemonparty.

Damn you are a tease!  Now I have this urge to wikipedia "lemonparty" just to find out why that isn't safe. 

And I'm sure that I still wouldn't want to know.

[Lantyssa]

Googling "yaoi+definition" is safe if you don't click on any of the links. Just don't do an image search.

[Llava]

Yaoi=gay.  Effeminate gay men making out=yaoi.

That's the safest way to say it.

[Lantyssa]

You're no fun, spoiling it like that!

[RhyssaFireheart]

Ya, went to google it after all.  Wasn't as bad as I expected, honestly.  From reading a few definitions, it's gay stories written by females though, at least in Japan.  Or something goofy like that.  *shrug* 

The images that came up for it were pretty funny though, at least the ones I saw.  Most were pretty badly drawn anime style fanpics.  When you look at the pics and wonder "is that a male or female?" it looses any impact, IMO.

[Ironwood]

Just like YuGiOh.

Or, in fact, anything Japanese.

[sinij]

I use randomly renamed goatse, tubegirl and such to discourage snooping around my files/saves/archives.

[Lantyssa]

I would be scared of accidentally finding one of those pictures myself...

*shiver*

[Yegolev]

Yaoi is Brokeback Mountain in manga form.  Seriously.  It is for the women.

My wife found my computer stash one day.  We survived.  Now we just respect each others' privacy like a good couple should.

[Telemediocrity]

Wow, maybe it's just me because I'm not in the adult world or whatever...

...But I've been with my girlfriend for over three years now, and I couldn't imagine considering myself "serious" with anyone (much less engaged/married) where we didn't know every single last detail of each other's private info/lives, particularly sexually.  I'm all for privacy between couples, but that's a privacy based on trust and fully knowing one another, not a privacy based on hiding things.

A good relationship is one where your partner already knows everything about you they might be disgusted/horrified/amused/tempted to ridicule/angered/upset/enraged by, and they don't particularly care.

That, and maybe it's just a generational thing, but I have a hard time believing there are many girls would be worked up in this day and age that their partner has a porn collection (The grievance of the original bug report, of course, is 100% valid).

There's always the question of whether to bring up the merits of bukkake (Since someone on this thread had never heard of yaoi, I feel I should caveat that by saying 'wikipedia it, don't google image search it') on the second date or the third - but a girl who can hold her own in such a conversation is definitely a keeper.

[Ironwood]

 

[Strazos]

Televangilist, maybe you missed it above, but the sites the woman found were not exactly pr0n sites, but "one-night stand"-type dating sites.

[schild]

Wow, maybe it's just me because I'm not in the adult world or whatever...

...But I've been with my girlfriend for over three years now, and I couldn't imagine considering myself "serious" with anyone (much less engaged/married) where we didn't know every single last detail of each other's private info/lives, particularly sexually. I'm all for privacy between couples, but that's a privacy based on trust and fully knowing one another, not a privacy based on hiding things.

A good relationship is one where your partner already knows everything about you they might be disgusted/horrified/amused/tempted to ridicule/angered/upset/enraged by, and they don't particularly care.

You are one noobtastic idealist fucker. Either that or still trolling.

[Murgos]

Still trolling.

[Telemediocrity]

I'm not trolling, honestly.  To make a relationship work for 3 years at my age (High school and then in college), with a little over 1 of it thus far being long distance, takes an exceptionally strong bond - and I've long believed that the key to such a bond is communication.  Which is why I also strongly believe in being friends with a girl for at least a year before getting into a relationship, so you both have a pretty clear picture of each other's quirks.  The bukkake thing was half meant as a joke, but not entirely out of whack with the general principle.

Strazos, I totally understand about the woman in the OP (I think I had some caveat to that effect, my apologies if it wasn't clear), I was directing this more at the examples provided downthread from there.

Seriously, sometimes I may say things with a bit of an absurdist bent, just because that's my sense of humor, but that doesn't mean I'm just spewing shit randomly with nothing that I believe behind it.  If you guys honestly don't think open communication in a relationship and a partner who's more like an understanding best friend than someone you have to always be putting up fronts to impress (And yes, allowing her to operate under the illusion that you're the one man on earth who doesn't enjoy porn is putting up a front), please do explain to my why that might be.

[Ironwood]

To make a relationship work for 3 years at my age (High school and then in college), with a little over 1 of it thus far being long distance, takes an exceptionally strong bond - and I've long believed that the key to such a bond is communication. 

No, it doesn't.  I did the same thing.  And then we broke up.

Making a relationship in college only takes two people who are away from their familial bonds for the first time clinging to each other desperately for support against the horrid loneliness of the world.

Also, Sexxor.

Not bashing you - But you have a lot to learn.

[Telemediocrity]

No, it doesn't.  I did the same thing.  And then we broke up.

Making a relationship in college only takes two people who are away from their familial bonds for the first time clinging to each other desperately for support against the horrid loneliness of the world.

Also, Sexxor.

Not bashing you - But you have a lot to learn.

Oh, I'm totally against involved relationships between two people in college - I've never been in such a thing, but I've seen it play out almost exactly as you're saying, and thus I'd avoid it like the plague.

When I started dating my girlfriend, I was in high school and she was in college.  Then, when I was in college, she moved on to grad school.  At every step of the way, we've had our own lives with our own friends, interests, hobbies, and relatively little overlap except where we've invited one another into each other's domains.  Never been together while at the same institution (though we did first meet and become friends in the same high school), and I can't imagine that it would be healthy.

Just clarifying because you're essentially responding to a different situation than I meant to convey - sorry if my original post was unclear.

Also, the situation you describe violates one of the central tenets of any healthy relationship:  Both sides should be happy, independent, complete people even if separated from one another.  Using a relationship as a pillar of stability in a new and uncertain situation is just begging for trouble.  See my previous statement (maybe it was here, maybe it was someone else, but it was definitely on a different thread) about how it helps when your SO is your harshest critic.

[Ironwood]

See my previous statement (maybe it was here, maybe it was someone else, but it was definitely on a different thread) about how it helps when your SO is your harshest critic.

Man, you totally went for your mom, didn't you ?  Does she spit on the corner of a hanky and wipe round your mouth ?

:)

Seriously, this is a strange discussion but here's the deal :  Come back to me after 10 years and we'll chat about women, you and I.  Hell, by that time, you can even join me prowling the streets of Glasgow at 3am looking for women to cut.

[Telemediocrity]

Man, you totally went for your mom, didn't you ?  Does she spit on the corner of a hanky and wipe round your mouth ?

Heh, here might be some sort of mother factor at work - though it might be more of an antithesis thing.  My mom is about as threatening as Hans Moleman.  (Actually, they share a few mannerisms, come to think of it)

Seriously, this is a strange discussion but here's the deal :  Come back to me after 10 years and we'll chat about women, you and I.  Hell, by that time, you can even join me prowling the streets of Glasgow at 3am looking for women to cut.

LOL, no worries.  I fully accept that at 20, I've not got a lot figured out yet.  Maybe there's a cultural difference in slang here, but are you proposing something GTA-ish? ;)

[schild]

Seriously, this is a strange discussion but here's the deal :  Come back to me after 10 years and we'll chat about women, you and I.  Hell, by that time, you can even join me prowling the streets of Glasgow at 3am looking for women to cut.

LOL, no worries. I fully accept that at 20, I've not got a lot figured out yet. Maybe there's a cultural difference in slang here, but are you proposing something GTA-ish? ;)

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[Telemediocrity]

Seriously, this is a strange discussion but here's the deal :  Come back to me after 10 years and we'll chat about women, you and I.  Hell, by that time, you can even join me prowling the streets of Glasgow at 3am looking for women to cut.

LOL, no worries. I fully accept that at 20, I've not got a lot figured out yet. Maybe there's a cultural difference in slang here, but are you proposing something GTA-ish? ;)

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cut

Hmm - I'd honestly never heard 'cut' used that way before.  Though the fact that Ironwood knows the term in that way suggests Urbandictionary might be erring in saying it originated in Dirty South rap.