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								Muse.
								
								
								
								
							 
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							My Sig Image: hath rid itself of this mortal coil. 
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							Surlyboi
							
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							It's a scarier place than I thought... 
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							Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail 
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							now *that's* manipulation.  Or attempted manipulation.
  Amazing that blogs have become such a marketing/PR tool so fast. 
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							sarius
							
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							No worries. Smed only post when he has to prop up a board meeting or two.  Frankly, I preferred when he never said anything, though.  At least then we could imagine that SOE had management. 
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							So what PC Gamer did took a lot of guts… and I applaud them for it. Turning away money is never an easy thing to do..  No applaud necessary.  It's very likely that SOE put pressure on them to not print ads for IGE, due to being unwanted competition - and competition that can get users in trouble (banned).  Wouldn't be anything unusual or especially sinister about it if it did happen, since that sort of arm twisting is common in mags.  
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  "Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don't learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us." -SC  
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							I would not be suprised if someone at SOE called someone at PCGamer and told them they'd be "disappointed" if there were IGE ads. I'm sure everyone knew what "disappointment" meant without anyone having to clarify. That's if something like this happened which I'm sure it could have. 
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							Signe
							
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							Kneecapping?  Like the mafia?  I didn't know game company men were so hard.  
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							Shockeye
							
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							Kneecapping?  Like the mafia?  I didn't know game company men were so hard.  
  I'm very excited. 
  You obviously never saw "The Wizard".  
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							Let’s face it…farming does happen. Heh, let's face it: having full groups with names like "asdfjgojt"  controlled by one person does happen.     
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							Kneecapping?  Like the mafia?  I didn't know game company men were so hard.  
  I'm very excited. 
  You obviously never saw "The Wizard". Diana Ross was great in that!  
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							Does it matter? Sticking to the subject was never our strength.  
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							I fortell a sales spike for Battlefield 2 as all those violently disgruntled SWG fans try to take a shot at him. 
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							Holy Smokes.  I wonder if that's actually his toon.  Eh, probably just someone who made the character after reading that blog.  
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							I'm pretty certain he knows how to spell his own last name. 
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							Surlyboi
							
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							I'm pretty certain he knows how to spell his own last name.
  Well, it  IS Smed we're talking about here...  
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							I'm pretty certain he knows how to spell his own last name.
  Well, it  IS Smed we're talking about here... "Ok character name...John Smedley.  No wait!  Must remain anonymous.  Need pseudonym...AHA!  S.m.e.d.l.y...Smedly!  Now they'll never know" Epilogue: in retrospect, this seemed like a heavy handed corny joke.  It was.  Would I do things differently, given the chance to do it over?  Who knows.  But I can say that ever since then, the comedy writing jobs seemed to stop coming.  
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							Lum what the hell is that epilepsy-inducing shit you have as sig?  my eyes hurt. 
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							Signe
							
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							I would not be suprised if someone at SOE called someone at PCGamer and told them they'd be "disappointed" if there were IGE ads. I'm sure everyone knew what "disappointment" meant without anyone having to clarify. That's if something like this happened which I'm sure it could have.
  Does anyone really think PC Gamer is going to have a hard time finding someone else to buy that space?  I saw their move as little more than a cheap attempt at some street cred in a genre they exhibit almost no understanding of at all. They're getting better, but I doubt this move against IGE was about "sticking it to the man" or any of that anti-establishment nonsense people still think Blizzard does too. Like that Verizon commercial, PC Gamer is  published by The Man. They did it because it was safe to do. Like passing anti-cellphone-while-driving laws. That's easier to do than address real problems. Banning IGE is easier than trying to drive up readership to lower the number of pages you need to sell for advertising.  
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							I think it's Yogurt!
  It is.  And if you thing his avatar is bad, you should see the whole video! Alkiera  
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							 They did it because it was safe to do. Like passing anti-cellphone-while-driving laws. That's easier to do than address real problems. Banning IGE is easier than trying to drive up readership to lower the number of pages you need to sell for advertising.
 
 This a huge supposition.  For the former: What are the real problems?  For he later: I see this as a move to garner brownie points by cutting off a minor revenue stream. Especially, they are scoring  brownie points with other advertisers (many of which are antagonistic to places like IGE). I don't see how either example can be called a whitewash of "real" problems.  
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							This a huge supposition. Hehe, you think?! ;) We talk about what the "real problems" all the time. No need to retread ground there.  Otherwise, we mostly agree. They did it to enhance their rep. The only thing I don't agree with is the part about "cutting off a minor revenue stream." They probably replaced the ad space leaser the moment they dropped IGE, which had to happen a month or two before the issue hit the stands anyway. They're fairly popular, so I don't imagine it's impossible to get new ads.  
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							so I don't imagine it's impossible to get new ads.
  Not when there are reviews to be sold!  Also, this is a great way to cause problems for SOE's competition in at least one aspect, since SOE does offer a competing service.   
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