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on: January 17, 2006, 08:24:31 AM

I have zero paladin experience. I'm grouping with a warrior in WSG and I'm trying to decide what stat bonuses to focus on for my gear when in PvP. What stats are most important?
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Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 08:35:32 AM

Whatever stats are most important to the class you should reroll before you waste too much time on a Paladin. Seriously, get the fuck out now. Leveling becomes way harder the farther you go, and at the end you have being nothing but a cleansebot that's not allowed to roll on anything that isn't exclusively for paladins. At 20 paladins are the greatest class in the game, at 40 you'll avoid logging in so you won't have to think about hitting for less than a level 19 of any other class, or trying to find undead you can kill for a slight gain in DPS. As a lvl 60 paladin I stongly, stongly recommend rolling a Warrior if you want to melee or a Priest (shadow ftw) if you want to do support. Or damage. Even a Holy priest will way out-dps a paladin. And 1.9 was a fucking travesty. Reroll now. Roll a priest. WoW paladins at 60 are literally the least fun, viable, or wanted class in any MMORPG I've played since 1998. And I've played every one of them. Even Korean ones.

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Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 08:43:46 AM

If you're wanting DPS, then everything Angry.Bob stated is entirely true.  (Well except that bit about not out-dpsing Holy/Disc Priests... but then I'm healing, not slinging nukes.)  However, if you're looking to be a cleanse & healadin (which is where they're being shunted in PvE) then go Int/ Stamina/ AC.

You want melee DPS go fury warrior with lots of +crit, mortal strike warrior or rogue. 

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Reply #3 on: January 17, 2006, 08:44:30 AM

Whatever stats are most important to the class you should reroll before you waste too much time on a Paladin. Seriously, get the fuck out now. Leveling becomes way harder the farther you go, and at the end you have being nothing but a cleansebot that's not allowed to roll on anything that isn't exclusively for paladins. At 20 paladins are the greatest class in the game, at 40 you'll avoid logging in so you won't have to think about hitting for less than a level 19 of any other class, or trying to find undead you can kill for a slight gain in DPS. As a lvl 60 paladin I stongly, stongly recommend rolling a Warrior if you want to melee or a Priest (shadow ftw) if you want to do support. Or damage. Even a Holy priest will way out-dps a paladin. And 1.9 was a fucking travesty. Reroll now. Roll a priest. WoW paladins at 60 are literally the least fun, viable, or wanted class in any MMORPG I've played since 1998. And I've played every one of them. Even Korean ones.

I'm only going to level this guy to 19 for Warsong gulch. I have no intention of going any further with him. That being said can you give me advice on what stats are most important for PvP at that level. I will be using my heals a lot to keep my warrior friend standing.
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Reply #4 on: January 17, 2006, 08:47:53 AM

At level 19 frankly you probably won't be able to jack your stats up to matter overly much. Paladins are in the unfortunate position of using every stat. If you want more melee go stamina/str/int if you want to go more caster go more int/stam/str. I wouldn't bother with spirit to much because in WSG you won't having enough time without casting for it to matter.

Get as big of a two handed weapon as you can wield at your level and then head into wsg and have at it.

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Reply #5 on: January 17, 2006, 10:19:01 AM

If you're going to keep him healed, Get all the "Of the Eagle" gear you can. You want Int and Sta as high as you can, but you want Int more than Sta. ANd that's for PvE too. 1.9 made complete and total manwhores out of the class. Manpool > All

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Reply #6 on: January 17, 2006, 11:46:08 AM

Also, get as many enchants as you can.. if you can get a really nasty weapon enchant, like Crusader, all the better.  I expect this is one loophole that will eventually be closed, but it's open right now and if you're not leveling the toon up, it's a good investment.  Cheesy as fuck, but hey.

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Reply #7 on: January 17, 2006, 12:51:54 PM

A well played paladin can be the difference in a BG group (AB, WSG) but you have to play it for what it is. The best damn combat healer in the game. A warrior with a paladin healing is VERY hard to overcome. But if you want to be DPS, I agree with the others.
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Reply #8 on: January 17, 2006, 12:52:18 PM

Not sure how much experience Schild has on the pvp side - but he has a level 60 Paladin.  Maybe he can offer some advice.

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Reply #9 on: January 17, 2006, 01:03:34 PM

Not sure how much experience Schild has on the pvp side - but he has a level 60 Paladin.  Maybe he can offer some advice.

Errr.. you sure about that?  I think he had maybe at most a lvl 20 rogue.  You might be thinking of someone else.  I know at least a couple people here have 60 paladins. 

This is for really low BGs, which only have one rule: twink.  Buy the most rediculous crap you possibly can for your level and enchant it up the wazoo.

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Reply #10 on: January 17, 2006, 01:47:03 PM

Not sure how much experience Schild has on the pvp side - but he has a level 60 Paladin.  Maybe he can offer some advice.

I think this was a dig at schild, who was accused of having a 60 pali in another thread.  He apparently does not, in fact, play one.

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Reply #11 on: January 17, 2006, 01:48:35 PM

I think my guy was level 28 or 38. I forget. But I never play a paladin. Ever. In any game. EVER. I never play a tank really. Waste of time. I hate the class.

Had you accused me of having a warlock, maybe people would have believed. Or even a necro. Or maybe POSSIBLY a shaman. But Paladin? No, that would mean I played a good character. I don't like no flowery shit, yo. EQ2 excluded - Freeport is too mean. Even for me.

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Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 01:50:08 PM

It's sad to see someone work so long on a character and be so burned out on it that they completely deny ever playing that character.
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Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 01:55:19 PM

So long? This is WoW, rite? Took me 3 weeks.
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Reply #14 on: January 17, 2006, 03:11:12 PM

He's talking about your pally, you had what 5 lightforge 3 judgment?

Schild, you should have at least sold that account, rather then deleting the character in frustration, I've seen 60 pally's on pvp servers that are geared like that go for $300+ on ebay.

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Reply #15 on: January 17, 2006, 03:19:28 PM

At least when Schild is playing his pally, he knows how to heal.
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Reply #16 on: January 17, 2006, 05:21:38 PM

NO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR LEVEL 59 PALADIN.

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Reply #17 on: January 17, 2006, 07:46:41 PM

I have zero paladin experience. I'm grouping with a warrior in WSG and I'm trying to decide what stat bonuses to focus on for my gear when in PvP. What stats are most important?

Stam.  As a paladin you might be doing a bit of flag running, the harder you are to kill the better.  I dont know if you get blessing of freedom at that level, but thats the main wsg paladin power.

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Reply #18 on: January 17, 2006, 08:14:41 PM

One of my best friends is a 60 Pally and he's awesome to have in a group. Pallys are great off-tanks in my opinion, and are awesome secondary healers/cleaners since they can survive more than 3 fucking hits if they draw aggro. You had best not get into the class under the illusion of being a warrior with heals, because your DPS is going to be utterly pathetic compared to pretty much every other class. Pallys are attractive if you want to be a healer without having to shit your pants every time you over aggro and an elite comes stampeding over to you.

For PVP...I dunno why you're bothering. Blessings are very helpful to have, and the hammer of justice is one of the most irritating things ever to be hit with, but outside of that...eh.

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Reply #19 on: January 17, 2006, 08:20:51 PM

I played a 60 undead priest.  Outside a mage I get the most "aggro" on the pvp battle field.  Its pretty simple to do - I heal - rather than try do damage.

While I don't have the benefit of Schild's experience with a high level, fully flagged, revered with all factions Paladin, I really tend to think a Paladin could be superior to a priest in group pvp if he focused on healing/support.

Paladins are tough to kill, and nothing enrages players more than a healer (that heals lol).  Sure priests heal for more than a Paladin - but it is much harder for priests to survive doing this (especially as players get anti-fear trinkets).  Healing = heal capacity * probability of survival.

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Reply #20 on: January 17, 2006, 08:23:13 PM

Paladins are tough to kill, and nothing enrages players than healer.

Or a schild with a grudge.
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Reply #21 on: January 17, 2006, 10:52:30 PM

At level 19 there's not much seperating paladins and warriors in terms of damage output. I'd equip your paladin mostly like a warrior, then throw on a couple int items so you can do a bit of healing if you feel the lack. Neither of you should really be taking too much of a beating as mail-wearing twinks in the 19 bracket, so a deep mana pool is not really needed.
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Reply #22 on: January 17, 2006, 11:37:39 PM

At level 20 paladins get a quest for a twohanded mace that will put the smackdown on early pvp foes, it should keep you till around level 30.

As for PvP gear like has been said, go for of the eagle gear if you plan on playing a buffing/healing role, or STR/AGI/STAM if you want to take on a more offensive role. Sooner or later you will find yourself more and more forced into the buff/healing department if you want to shine though.

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