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on: January 12, 2006, 11:02:05 AM

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Judas the Misunderstood

From Richard Owen, in Rome

January 12, 2006

Vatican moves to clear reviled disciple’s name

JUDAS ISCARIOT, the disciple who betrayed Jesus with a kiss, is to be given a makeover by Vatican scholars.

The proposed “rehabilitation” of the man who was paid 30 pieces of silver to identify Jesus to Roman soldiers in the Garden of Gethsemane, comes on the ground that he was not deliberately evil, but was just “fulfilling his part in God’s plan”.

Christians have traditionally blamed Judas for aiding and abetting the Crucifixion, and his name is synonymous with treachery. According to St Luke, Judas was “possessed by Satan”.

Now, a campaign led by Monsignor Walter Brandmuller, head of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Science, is aimed at persuading believers to look kindly at a man reviled for 2,000 years.

Mgr Brandmuller told fellow scholars it was time for a “re-reading” of the Judas story. He is supported by Vittorio Messori, a prominent Catholic writer close to both Pope Benedict XVI and the late John Paul II.

Signor Messori said that the rehabilitation of Judas would “resolve the problem of an apparent lack of mercy by Jesus toward one of his closest collaborators”.

He told La Stampa that there was a Christian tradition that held that Judas was forgiven by Jesus and ordered to purify himself with “spiritual exercises” in the desert.

In scholarly circles, it has long been unfashionable to demonise Judas and Catholics in Britain are likely to welcome Judas’s rehabilitation.

Father Allen Morris, Christian Life and Worship secretary for the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales, said: “If Christ died for all — is it possible that Judas too was redeemed through the Master he betrayed?” The “rehabilitation” of Judas could help the Pope’s drive to improve Christian-Jewish relations, which he has made a priority of his pontificate.

Some Bible experts say Judas was “a victim of a theological libel which helped to create anti Semitism” by forming an image of him as a “sinister villain” prepared to betray for money.

In many medieval plays and paintings Judas is portrayed with a hooked nose and exaggerated Semitic features. In Dante’s Inferno, Judas is relegated to the lowest pits of Hell, where he is devoured by a three-headed demon.

The move to clear Judas’s name coincides with plans to publish the alleged Gospel of Judas for the first time in English, German and French. Though not written by Judas, it is said to reflect the belief among early Christians — now gaining ground in the Vatican — that in betraying Christ Judas was fulfilling a divine mission, which led to the arrest and Crucifixion of Jesus and hence to man’s salvation.

Mgr Brandmuller said that he expected “no new historical evidence” from the supposed gospel, which had been excluded from the canon of accepted Scripture.

But it could “serve to reconstruct the events and context of Christ’s teachings as they were seen by the early Christians”. This included that Jesus had always preached “forgiveness for one’s enemies”.

Some Vatican scholars have expressed concern over the reconsideration of Judas. Monsignor Giovanni D’Ercole, a Vatican theologian, said it was “dangerous to re-evaulate Judas and muddy the Gospel accounts by reference to apocryphal writings. This can only create confusion in believers.” The Gospels tell how Judas later returned the 30 pieces of silver — his “blood money” — and h anged himself, or according to the Acts of the Apostles, “fell headlong and burst open so that all his entrails burst out”.

Some accounts suggest he acted out of disappointment that Jesus was not a revolutionary who intended to overthrow Roman occupation and establish “God’s Kingdom on Earth”.

In the Gospel accounts, Jesus reveals to the disciples at the Last Supper that one of them will betray him, but does not say which. He adds “Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

But he also — according to St Matthew — acknowledged that Judas had a divine function to fulfil, saying to him during the arrest, “Friend, do what you are here to do” and adding that “the prophecies of the Scriptures must be fulfilled”.

The “Gospel of Judas”, a 62-page worn and tattered papyrus, was found in Egypt half a century ago and later sold by antiquities dealers to the Maecenas Foundation in Basle, Switzerland.

MOCK OF AGES
# In Dante’s Inferno, Judas is relegated to the lowest pits of Hell, where he is eaten, head first, by a three-headed demon with flapping bat-like wings

# In Cecil B. DeMille’s 1927 silent film The King of Kings, Judas’s attraction for Mary Magdalene and the resulting jealousy contributes to his betrayal of Jesus

# Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd-Webber’s musical Jesus Christ Superstar depicts Judas as a disillusioned, angry character. In the 1973 film version he is presented as more of a victim than villain

# Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ shows Judas hounded by demon-like street children who send him to his death amid a sea of insects and maggots

Hopefully there'll be too busy cleaning up Judas to diddle any more little boys. Or maybe if people look more kindly on Judas they'll not be so harsh on childfuckers. Catholicism Wow!
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Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 11:23:05 AM

The Judas story is an odd one of Christians because it involves God's own foresight into man's sins. Just because God knows you are going to sin and plans accordingly, does that make it sin or just his moving plan in which you are a pawn? I'm inclined to believe that it's still sin, but all sin is forgivable with repentence. However, Judas didn't repent, and instead he hung himself taking the easy way out over the shame and grief of his actions.

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Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 03:54:22 PM

Which was another sin.

He wasn't bright, was he ?

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Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006, 04:23:37 PM

Ahh.. political correctness and revisionist history makes it to the church. About time.. I can't wait until I'm 65 and Jesus has become the opressor, telling people how to live and sticking his nose where he wasn't wanted.

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Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 10:28:13 PM

Ahh.. political correctness and revisionist history makes it to the church. About time.. I can't wait until I'm 65 and Jesus has become the opressor, telling people how to live and sticking his nose where he wasn't wanted.

We'lll start worshipping Pilate at that point.

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Reply #5 on: January 13, 2006, 06:08:22 PM

We'lll start worshipping Pilate at that point.

Why not?  The Copts have revered Pilate's wife as a saint for as long as there's been a Coptic Christian church.
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Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006, 05:05:00 AM

I can't wait until I'm 65 and Jesus has become the opressor, telling people how to live and sticking his nose where he wasn't wanted.

There has actually been quite a debate about that in Sweden recently.

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Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 03:49:31 PM

I can't wait until I'm 65 and Jesus has become the opressor, telling people how to live and sticking his nose where he wasn't wanted.

There has actually been quite a debate about that in Sweden recently.

Well crap, I guess the Rapture IS only a few years off.  I'm hosed.  cry  :-D

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Reply #8 on: January 15, 2006, 03:00:43 AM

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Reply #9 on: January 15, 2006, 04:18:57 AM

Best rap Evar.

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Reply #10 on: January 15, 2006, 03:32:08 PM

Ahh.. political correctness and revisionist history makes it to the church. About time.

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