Battlefield 2: Special Forces

[Lemming]

Has anybody had a chance to pick this up and try it out?

[WayAbvPar]

Is it out already? Shit, I guess today IS the 22nd! Goddamn it. Now I have to buy it. I hope the download option is still available.

[MrHat]

It's installed and everything, think I had the wrong version though (1.1).

Grabbing 1.12 now.

tankxfire is my xfire name if you want.

[Jimbo]

I hate my cable modem right now 

It will have great connection, with about 50 to 80 ping, then it will lose connection.  Time Warner has been out twice to my appartment and are trying to figure out why I have had so much trouble with the cable box (on my third box), and now my internet and phone.

Will be downloading it tonight hopefully.

[MrHat]

Sucks dude.

It's rather fun.  I never really played BF2 much though, so no real basis for comparision.

It feels at times slower and faster than I remember.  And completely viable to run off on yer own for a bit as a spec op.  Stealth runs to take out their radar is awesome.

The grappling and tether line are awesome little additions.  Pretty damn cool to see a guy flying across the screen, hit a wall, go prone and start shooting at you!

[WayAbvPar]

Finallly got it downloaded and played a bit last night. So far, I pretty much hate it. If I wanted to play in the dark, I could play Raven Shield or something. Having to switch between NVGs and not is a giant pain in the ass. Only played 2 of the new maps so far, but I was not overly impressed. Felt much more like a bastardized version of Counterstrike, only with unlimited respawns. Bleah.

[stray]

Are there already a lot of servers that require it?

[edit] Holy crap, I'm lazy.  :-D  I can just check myself.

[MrHat]

Finallly got it downloaded and played a bit last night. So far, I pretty much hate it. If I wanted to play in the dark, I could play Raven Shield or something. Having to switch between NVGs and not is a giant pain in the ass. Only played 2 of the new maps so far, but I was not overly impressed. Felt much more like a bastardized version of Counterstrike, only with unlimited respawns. Bleah.

I switched NVG to mouse button 3 instead of 7 or whatever was default.  Worked much better.

[WayAbvPar]

That is a hell of a good idea. That will make it much less intrusive.

[MrHat]

That is a hell of a good idea. That will make it much less intrusive.

Ya, took me about 30 mins just to realize I had NVG's.

Then another 30 mins to convince myself that I didn't have to wear them all the time.  That's when remapping them made sense.  I rather like it, but ya, it's more of a counter-strike alternative than what BF was originally intended for.

[Merusk]

Reading this just makes me want to play America's Army again instead.  They had Superb NVGs in from the get-go that caused blindness when looking at bright lights and everything.  Plus the games were a lot quicker since it was one death and you're out.  I think they've even added-in vehicles since I last played.  I know for certain there's moddable weapons. (Silencer or refelex scope.. want an m203 on the underbarrel?)

  Plus, no silly ziplines or CTF gameplay.  Actual mission objectives to complete or thwart rather than "kill 'em all" gameplay, meaning squadwork was paramount.

Hrm.

[Sky]

I'm highly suspect of the ziplines. I hated that in Quake.

[WayAbvPar]

I haven't played the expansion since the first night. Plenty of servers running the old maps, and I was able to unlock 3 of the new weapons. I will check back on it in a few days maybe.

[MrHat]

Found a ton of servers running the maps in the expansion.

Can you even play the expansion game on old maps?

[Jimbo]

Well, Time Warner came out unexpectedly before Thanksgiving and fixed the cable, phone, and internet, so been enjoying zip-line goodness yah!   :-D

I do hate that there are tons and tons of script kiddies all over the games.  When guys immediately hit the dirt, roll, aim and fire at me...when I'm fucking behind them, something needs to bring them undercontrol, and punkbuster doesn't do shit.  Of course when I blow them up anyway...it makes it all the much better.

Found out a ton of things that can make you disconnect or have crappy connection, had to re-install the game and patches, had to check some ports, and got it to run decent (70 ping to most servers while playing).

*I suck at spelling*

[Merusk]

I re-downloaded and installed America's Army yesterday.   Far, far superior game to BF2, IMO, so I'm playing that again.  Breathing, aim penalties for movement, one-shot kills, NVG, customizable weapons (for spec. forces), leaning and rounds of play and sensible objectives > "ticket" play to me.  Plus it doesn't kill my machine the way BF2 was AND that fucking bunyhopping/ prone combo doesn't help anyone.

  Really, to me, the only thing BF2 has going for it is vehicles, and then the biggest complaint I hear is "vehicle xyz is overpowered."

[Morfiend]

My RL buddie is an amazing helicoptor pilot in BF2. We have a great time getting a chopper with him driving and me gunning. We both kind of lost intrest after a while though. The one major problem I have with the game is tghat vehicles are so cool, its almost a vehicle sim, with little ground combat. I think a huge map with 100v100, would be really fun.

[Hanzii]

Which is a complaint heard so often that DICE listened and made a game, where vehicles are of no consequences... apart from one map, where there's a fucking annoying Hind.
Unfortunately, the game DICE decided to turn BF2 into has been done numerous times before... better.

Hooks are fun, but pretty useless. You're slow and a lot of places (like anywhere with a guardrail) you'll fall down, once you climb to the top.
Ziplines are fun, but you're n easy target.
Bunnyhoppin'-prone is rampant and I fucking hate it.
Nightvision, flashbangs and teargas actually works out pretty well.... it's just not the game I want BF2 to be. For me BF1942 was always about combined arms, and I liked the vehicles more than playing infantry.

I do hate that there are tons and tons of script kiddies all over the games.  When guys immediately hit the dirt, roll, aim and fire at me...when I'm fucking behind the, something needs to bring them undercontrol, and punkbuster doesn't do shit. 

Yes, it does. It kicks me every second map, because it's trying to update my PB client. Buggy piece of crap (did anybody mention the mandatory 280 MB day one patch? And the badly written message from EA, that can lead you to believe the patch isn't applied even though you just patched?)

...I'm considering just going back to BF1942.

[Sky]

...I'm considering just going back to BF1942.

I agree, heh. I had the cds out for a reinstall just the other day, but got distracted by a ball of tinfoil.

The EA Curse lives on.

[Jimbo]

Yeah, BF2 and BF2 Spec Forces can make me pull what little hair I have out (hey I still wear my hair in a 35-10 reg flat top   ), but it is a good change of pace from Planetside, CoH, and WoW.

Zip lines can be great if you are in a decent squad that has them up for moving from roof top to roof tops.  Flashbangs are awesome, and teargas is a great equalizer for both attacking and defending.  The SAS engineer gets a pretty neat gun, since I'm feeling they nerfred the shot gun some more (the last patch made it weaker, especially in range), so it isn't the anti-bunny hop weapon it used to be.

I still love chasing down people and defib'ing them to death  :-D  My buddies at work think that is freaking awesome...almost got my doc and couple of other nurses and medics interested...but they don't have gaming rigs  

Combined arms is pretty much why it is cool, I used to play Tribes and Tribes 2 because of the vehicles and the bases and this fits the bill as a continuation on it.  Planetside fits the bill as far as combined arms done right...just that somedays you can't find a good fire fight.

Planetside has the potential to be a great combined arms game, it is that sometimes the leaders just cut and run from a good scrap.  That probably is the smart thing to do, but most of the fps crowd want a scrap, not go capture some easy base.  Heck, some of the best times I have had on Planetside is when I was part of a last ditch defense...we had small element of 2 aircraft, 2 mechs, 2 tanks, and 2 raiders (our ace in the hole baby) plus about 2 squads.  It was way cool in that our TR base was only around the corner from the NC base, so it wasn't that far to travel back and forth.  They were throwing tons of stuff at us, but we kept them beaten back into there base.  We did it by controlling the high ground near there base and by concentrating our fire power.  What ever I shot at everyone in our raider would, and then the prowler would engage it too.  Plus that we had most of us spec'ed for vehicle repair.  I was glue gunning (repairing) every chance I got, and it was a fun intense battle.  Many aircraft found out that concentrated 20mm cannon fire is hell on there reavers.  Other times it sucks as we basically go after some undefended place...

[Hanzii]

Fucking punkbuster!
I never get to play a full round - 20-30 minutes in Punkbuster kicks me for 2 minutes "trying to update client". Every single game - and considering you never get to join a ghame from the start, this means I always get to play about two half rounds.
Any suggestions?

[Furiously]

Fucking punkbuster!
I never get to play a full round - 20-30 minutes in Punkbuster kicks me for 2 minutes "trying to update client". Every single game - and considering you never get to join a ghame from the start, this means I always get to play about two half rounds.
Any suggestions?

Quit cheating? Sorry - no clue.

[Jimbo]

Wow, I am the catzass now, since I finally finished getting my basic weapon certs in BF2 and BF2 SF.  Now to try and figure out the other certs like ground and air defense, knife, pistol, and some called flashbang and using the zip line?

I swear that it makes no sense how they give you an award.  I went one map where I had 36 points with a ton of sniper kills but still didn't have the badge ( I know I was okay on the time requirement, since I would get some of the others really quick).  And some of them state like just sit in the anti-air emplacement for 11 mins and you'll get it (don't you need kills too?).

I didn't care about having gear or levels in most of the MMORPGs, but for some reason this game has me wanting to get weapon unlocks and badges...it is like *ooh shiney!*  o.0   :-D

[Azazel]

I find the grind in BF2 worse than in the MMOGs, which is odd, since I really should be playing a FPS for the sheer fun of shooting people in the face, rather then to catass to the next level. Mentally it's the same as it was in EQ1 though, I just want to get all the weapons (max level) so then I can fucking relax and just enjoy the game.

I'm enjoying some of the new weapon kits, though moreso in the older maps, since the SF version of the game has just been done better by others. Also, they're laggy as all fuck, even though the normal game runs fine. GG EA!~

[Merusk]

I swear that it makes no sense how they give you an award.  I went one map where I had 36 points with a ton of sniper kills but still didn't have the badge ( I know I was okay on the time requirement, since I would get some of the others really quick).  And some of them state like just sit in the anti-air emplacement for 11 mins and you'll get it (don't you need kills too?).

If you haven't figured it out/ gotten the badges you want yet, GameFAQs has several good guides.  They tell you how many kills/ round, how much time played, and what your combat rating needs to be for each badge or medal.

[Shockeye]

New information on the 1.2 Update:

Hi all,

We are currently working on the next Battlefield 2 update. We believe this update has some significant improvements that everyone will appreciate. We’ve seen the discussions on the forum and will do our best to address as many issues as possible, as soon as possible.

Here is a quick run down of just some of the issues we have been working on.

- Helicopter now carry 8 missiles rather than 14
- TV-Guided missile now have a shorter range
- Hit points on all air vehicles has been reduced
- AA missile lock has been improved
- Support kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy
- Sniper kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy
- Anti-Tank kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy
- "Dolphin Diving" is no longer possible
- Players can no longer jump and shoot at the same time
- "Prone Spamming" is now fixed
- "Sprint exploit" is now fixed
- The Sa80 weapon has been improved
- The G3A3 weapon has been improved
- Reload while sprinting has been enabled
- Chinese and MEC APCs can now shoot through penetrable materials
- Damage decreased for the M134
- Medic defibrillator paddles have been adjusted. They now reload while not in use.

We'll be announcing further additions to this list, but that will have to wait until the next update. This is NOT the complete list of items we are working on. As we have more items go through testing and we are sure of a change we will update you.

For now, cheers.

Armando "Aj" Marini
Battlefield Team

[Lemming]

- Players can no longer jump and shoot at the same time

Sweetness.  What exactly is prone spamming and dolphin diving?

[WayAbvPar]

Various faggy combinations of bunnyhopping and going prone, basically.

They need to do something about the fucktards who run around and throw C4 50 feet and blow other people up with no harm. That is fucking ridiculous.

- Support kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy
- Sniper kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy
- Anti-Tank kits have had their primary weapons adjusted for accuracy

I wonder what that means...less or more accurate? If sniper kits get more accurate I will be pwning people from way out. OTOH, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with most of the support class weapons (the new one seems to be the best, while the PKM is by far the least accurate. Good for shooting up choppers, though).


Gonna play tonight- I think Furiously will be on as well (and a n00b buddy of ours who doesn't post here). If you want to join in the fun, look me up on Xfire or join us on TS (or both).

[Sky]

Well, hot damn. I'll have to log in now that they've finally realized a few of the things making that game really suck.

No bunnytards? Woohoo! Of course, in a few weeks we'll have jingletards! ;)

[MrHat]

I can't get my xfire to automatically join a server when I click game with buddy.  Loads the game up, then I have to manually enter the IP which is stupid.

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah, I think EA broke the autojoin when they added the stupid ad that pops up after loading.

[MrHat]

Yeah, I think EA broke the autojoin when they added the stupid ad that pops up after loading.

So Goddamn stupid.

[Yegolev]

Yeah, I think EA broke the autojoin when they added the stupid ad that pops up after loading.

What?  Popup ad?  Wow, this game is off my list now.  Which is fine because I still laugh every time I kill someone with a tire in HL2.

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah, I think EA broke the autojoin when they added the stupid ad that pops up after loading.

What?  Popup ad?  Wow, this game is off my list now.  Which is fine because I still laugh every time I kill someone with a tire in HL2.

Well it is technically a 'get more information' offer, and it is always BF2-related, but yeah, it is an ad.

[Sky]

Lame.