BF2: This game still fun?

[Sky]

Picked up Special Forces last night on the way home from work. Grappling hook is pretty nifty. I spawned in the turret of my SL's tank and he was pinned down by an AT in a building. I ran over, grappled up to a middle roof and knifed the punk :) Of course, the SF map I played on was mostly sniper heaven. I played the new map a little, my team couldn't break out of the uncap, it was total baserape. After 10 deaths with only two kills, I logged out and messed around with the SF stuff. Got one kill while flashbanged :)

I hope to get some play time in this week, I'm on vacation. But I'll be out of town for the bulk of the week. I just don't have the time to be a gamer these days. 

[Hanzii]

Just a quick note on unlocks.

Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.

[Akkori]

too fast then?

[Sky]

I've decided I hate the new map. Either that or it's the fact that all the folks who had been playing the expansions are playing it, and the average rank is Lt. My k:d, which had finally gone a bit better than 1:1 is now 1:5. It's about that bad in SF, where more hardcore players are, too.

The game just isn't fun for casual players, since I loaded up SF and the new map, I've quit after about fifteen minutes, pissed all to hell because it's just, die, die die. My girlfriend keeps asking me: This is supposed to be fun, right? I love the game, I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to enjoy it.

I know, cry more, newb. Except I won't ever be anything but newb...these guys have double WAP's score and WAP is about 20x higher than I. I won't even get into the TS squads that are death incarnate, a TS squad where the lowest grunt is Lt? Sheesh. FInd a girl, guys :P

[Engels]

Join War Rock. Plenty of newbsters there. Heck, even I have a positive kill:death ratio most games, and I'm someone who gets sweaty estremities when the words 'pack man' are spoken.

[Miasma]

Diving into SF after all the other people have had so many months to play it would be hard.  I think I've only played the Warlord map online.  There are so many nooks and crannies that you need to know about, people who have been playing for a while have a big advantage.  I can't find too many low ping servers that run SF either, it doesn't seem very popular.

I don't think I like the new map much either, the choke points are too extreme, nothing but grenade spamming.  I've also noticed that the MEC team almost always gets crushed, people on the bf2 boards have noted that too.  I was playing the 64 player map and USMC actually won by taking over all the flags, three times in a row.  I had never seen that even once on a 64 map before.  MEC needs an uncap.

I have mixed emotions about the game too.  It's quite exciting and often very fun but sometimes it is just so incredibly frustrating.  I get really annoyed if I get killed a few times in a row from out of nowhere or spawn in a tank that is already on fire and explodes before I can get out.  I shouldn't care so much about stats like K/D and yet I do.  It stresses me out and yet I keep coming back for more.  I'm going to go fire it up now.

[Jimbo]

Just got my set of BF2 and BF2 SF for my computer this week and let my kid use my old account.  I must be the exception to the rule, I have had a blast and do it all with pick up groups without any v.o.i.p. stuff.  Heck, I showed some of the guys how to defend the first village/flag point on the new map, and we held it hard core till the end of the game (when we were getting steam rolled usually as MEC) and we almost won (went down to 6 tickets).

Made Lance Corpral and only have 2 unlocks...    wierd but I thought I would have had more unlocks...didn't get any either for buying SF either

But it has been fun, heck I got my mine/explosive badge, engineer, pistol, and repair badge all in one game.

My new handle is scuffy1969, mostly play on the servers in the midwest, so are most of you using xfire to find each other in game?

[Miasma]

I think you have to play one round in SF before the unlocks show up.

[Merusk]

Just a quick note on unlocks.

Unlocks in BF2 and BF 2142 is not the same - you get your unlocks quickly in BF2142 and there's plenty of people with all 40 allready. I've played less than 8 hours total and have a fully kitted sniper.

I'm having MMO Beta flashbacks.

 You know where the guy comes by and says "Hey look how fast we level!" right before it goes live and the grind is slapped-in by reducing gains to 1/100 of their previous level as the community rep posts "Well, yeah, we had it turned up so you could all test everything. Of course we wanted a slower pace."

[Hanzii]

Heh.
That could happen and in that case I'll join in the bitching.

Right now it's the fact that I disconnect before finishing a map 9 out of 10 games and that the first mapload takes 10+ minutes and I often CTD shortly after that's killing my enjoyment of this game

- the mech is however the best vehicle ever and those droptubes are fun.

[Jimbo]

I have my pre-order unlocks and my veteran unlocks for BF 2142, both for my son and I accounts.  Should be fun, he used to love tribes and tribes 2, too bad they didn't keep that line going...that was a fun Sci Fi team based game.

I have to say I'm having a lot of fun playing regular and SF BF2 still, heck with the new maps I'm playing more engineer on MEC and a sniper or AT as the USMC.  I still think AA (all types, from the support weapons, AT, vehicle mounted MG's, and anti-air missles and vehicles) need a major boost.  I unloaded 3 direct hits on an attach helio the other day and didn't make a dent.  That and they need to make an air defense personel, one that carries a stinger missle and a M4 carbine.  That and they need to give a long gun to the AT and engineer class, the shot guns are great, but the smg's aren't my favorite.

[WayAbvPar]

Played Road to Jalalabad on an infantry only server last night. Wow. Very fun. Was hiding on top of a building as a support kit spamming grenades onto an enemy flag/staging area. Great fun was had by all until some sneaky medic climbed up the ladder and shock-paddled me 

[Sky]

Poking around on the widescreengamingforum for the Just Cause hack and noticed this thread. In particular (for triple monitor):



Check out that crazy fov compared to normal 4:3 aspect ratio:

[WayAbvPar]

Doh! That is awesome! That would really help me when capping flags- I always feel so exposed and jumpy (with good reason).

[Viin]

I'm installing BF2 the Deluxe Edition right now ... wtf is up with the 5 discs to install it? Anyways, maybe I'll play some of this later tonight .. :)

[WayAbvPar]

I am getting drunk tonight, so if I play tonight it will be late (and I will be cannon fodder).

[Furiously]

I might log on just to stab Wayabvpar a few times as I realize I will never reach my next rank and I should just play to have fun rather then catass my stats.

[WayAbvPar]

I have 17.5k points to my next unlock! And I really really want the last sniper rifle. How do you think I feel? 

[Yoshimaru]

Do you have to buy SF to get the second tier unlocks? or just go through all of the first tiers? I just need to unlock the support...

[Viin]

Do you have to buy SF to get the second tier unlocks? or just go through all of the first tiers? I just need to unlock the support...

No idear. Probably?

So what's everyone's nick on Bf2? Mine's "Viin". Original, huh?

[WayAbvPar]

Mine is a giant secret. I will give you one hint, though- it is somewhere on this page in large green font  :-D

As for the unlocks- I can't remember if I got free ones when I bought SF; right around the same time they revamped the rank system and I got like 3 or 4 all at once (it used to be REALLY grindy).

Amazingly, I am still having fun playing this game. I play 3-4 nights a week easily. The ragdoll physics really amused my over the weekend when I in a tank trying to kill an anti-tank infantry who kept hiding. I finally timed my shot right and got to see him leap 50 feet into the air, limbs flailing wildly.

[Akkori]

One of my favorite ones is to set some C4 on the ground at a corner, then detonate it after someone has come around and run past it. They get launched!

[Sky]

I had a great one where I was diving into cover by a flag just as artillery dropped on it and I went flying past a helicopter and then bounced off it on the way back down, not sure how high in the air, I'll just say 'wicked high' to be as accurate as possible. I have a lot of fun with ragdoll stuff playing a grenadier as much as I do, always guy blowing out of cover. I wish bodies persisted longer...

I think I got two unlocks when I bought SF.

I'm gruntzilla but I don't play much. Deep in Gothic II right now. I think we linked our stat pages earlier in the thread. I suck.

[WayAbvPar]

I had a great one where I was diving into cover by a flag just as artillery dropped on it and I went flying past a helicopter and then bounced off it on the way back down, not sure how high in the air, I'll just say 'wicked high' to be as accurate as possible.

AWESOME! I hope the guys in the chopper saw you..that would make their day. The best I have seen was when Fur and I were sniping off a crane on the Kubra Dam map. Arty hit below us, and some poor SOB flew up to our eye level. We were both laughing our asses off on TS.

[Viin]

I think I got two unlocks when I bought SF.

Hmm, my deluxe edition (with both BF2 and SF addon) doesn't seem to have anything unlocked. Do you only see the unlocks when playing SF not the regular BF2?

[Zetleft]

Play a round of SF to be able to unlock the SF guns in regular BF2.  Some servers have SF guns locked so no one can choose them.  Even if you don't have an SF gun unlocked you can loot the enemys... or friends.  To unlock a SF gun like say the sniper rifle, you have to first do the regular unlock for that kit. 

[Bill]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this so far, but go and grab Project Reality from www.realitymod.com it makes BF2 a really enjoyable experience, if you ask me. Much more enjoyable than any other online real-world themed FPS out there.

[Sky]

[Jimbo]

I think most people don't realize that you don't get a free unlock just by installing SF, you still have to make rank up to lance corporal (500+ points) and then you get 2 unlocks per rank instead of just one.  I don't know if the bonus packs give extra weapons to grab or not, have had too much fun playing on rubberduckie server and blowing stuff up on vanilla bf2.  I still suck at the M95...I can be deadly with all the other sniper rifles, but that gun is giving me fits trying to use it.  I still wish we had an air defense class, give me M4 carbine, pistol, stinger missile, and the knife and that would be a fun class to have...just make the stinger missile fire in a dumb fire mode when your on a non-flying map.

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah, a hand-held antiaircraft missile would even things up a BUNCH.

[Zetleft]

Yeah, a hand-held antiaircraft missile would even things up a BUNCH.

Definately, hell didn't even frigging BF:V have some lock on anti air rocket class.  It doesn't make much sense thinking about it but I do remember something like that. 

[Sky]

I was having a great time in BF:V a while back. I think if you remove the 'cutting edge' players BF becomes a much better game, less bunnyhopping and map sploiting.

[Viin]

I think most people don't realize that you don't get a free unlock just by installing SF, you still have to make rank up to lance corporal (500+ points) and then you get 2 unlocks per rank instead of just one ...

Ah ok that must be it. I'm almost there.

[Akkori]

Man, what I wouldn't give for a hand-held stinger. Jets and copters ruin more fun they they provide, IMHO.

[stray]

Damn. I really get tired of hearing the jet complaints....And I'm not even a pilot.

Knocking a jet out of the sky is not rocket science....

Err...

I mean, it's really not that difficult. Just try it. Devote yourself to it. Just because you can't spray them down using your usual tactics doesn't mean they're overpowered. It means that you suck.

Point the anti air target about 2 plane lengths ahead of a jet and fire all your missles at once. You can hit them. Last I checked, you'll take them down in four shots. Even if you don't knock them down all the time, just having one guy playing the anti-air role will be a thorn in the side of the opposing team's strategy.

Secondly, it's not like your team doesn't have jets either. You have the opportunity to do the same thing as other pilots do.

Thirdly... If you can't use the existing anti-air units effectively (which are spread all over any given map), then stinger kits wouldn't help you a bit. You already have something not only better than stingers, but by virtue of their positioning, just as mobile as well.

Fourthly, you guys aren't taking into account what balances are in the game already. Air units have no cover whatsoever. Jets in particular require a lot of skill just to keep targets in sight, since they move so fast.


As for helicopters... I can't even imagine the problem there. Those things go down so quick it's not even funny. Unlike jets, helicopters are sitting ducks. You can take them down with one load of missles. And not only that, they're far more unstable. Even hitting them once will virtually take them out of a fight.