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Shockeye
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on: October 22, 2005, 11:11:50 AM

All MMOG discussion is being moved to its own forum with child boards for the most popular games.

Weekly Game Releases child board created in PC/Console Gaming.

Xbox [Live] forum removed and topics put back into PC/Console Gaming.

M:tG board moved to PC/Console gaming since it's not really "massive".

Game conference and convention forum opened with E3 and AGC discussion moved there.

Post you stealth nerfs here.
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Reply #1 on: October 22, 2005, 11:57:28 AM

In the weekly game discussion forum, I'll be doing a single thread for each interesting game.

For now, the bulk threads have been migrated to it - which you've probably seen by now.

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Reply #2 on: October 22, 2005, 12:00:00 PM

Hey Mikey!  I like it!

Don't know why I ended this pre-maturely.  Anyway... it all seems much neater and tons easier to find stuff.  I like it all tidy like this.  I do regret the sudden demise of Useless News as morning coffee break fodder, though some people seem to be picking it up.  Maybe you should have a contest and vote on the best bit of Useless News found each week... I have an unopened box of RYL I could offer up as a reward!  I do!  Please?
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Reply #3 on: October 22, 2005, 12:05:16 PM

In the weekly game discussion forum, I'll be doing a single thread for each interesting game.

But not next week, as I'll be at AGC. I'll do my regular Sunday thread. Apologies.
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Reply #4 on: October 22, 2005, 12:07:43 PM

Looks good, I like it.
Shockeye
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Reply #5 on: October 22, 2005, 12:16:01 PM

I have also enabled the spell checker to see if it works. You'll see it as an option next to "Post" and "Preview".
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Reply #6 on: October 22, 2005, 12:21:19 PM

I have also enabled the spell checker to see if it works. You'll see it as an option next to "Post" and "Preview".

I just noticed that... well, after you said it and I clicked "quote".  I'll always forget to use it, though.  I'm pretty sure my typo's are cute.

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Reply #7 on: October 22, 2005, 04:39:16 PM

The giant avatars and long titles play havoc with this site.  Everyone keeps getting smushed into each other.

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Reply #8 on: October 22, 2005, 04:43:10 PM

The giant avatars and long titles play havoc with this site.  Everyone keeps getting smushed into each other.

I've never had that problem. I think your computer has a raging case of Stage III Syphilis.
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Reply #9 on: October 22, 2005, 05:06:27 PM

The giant avatars and long titles play havoc with this site.  Everyone keeps getting smushed into each other.

That happens to me every once in awhile. I usually just hit refresh and it's fine.
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Reply #10 on: October 22, 2005, 09:24:07 PM

Change frightens and confuses me.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

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Reply #11 on: October 23, 2005, 07:13:36 AM

I refresh and it goes away, too... but I shouldn't have to!   tongue  I was just sayin', anyway.  And whatnot.

(There, there, wee lawyer.  I used to be like you, back when WTO became f13, but I came to realise change is good.  Boog?  Ray?  Where are they?  NOT HERE... it's good!)

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Reply #12 on: October 23, 2005, 11:55:58 AM

Ohhhhh Spell check, was that for me?
Cheddar
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Reply #13 on: October 23, 2005, 12:04:29 PM

Ohhhhh Spell check, was that for me?

Its was four me.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #14 on: October 24, 2005, 07:29:03 PM

I don't think I like the new layout. More forums and subforums makes stuff harder to get to. "PC / Console game discussion" didn't have much traffic to being with, now it's got right around zero.

I'd keep the child-boards, but one section for game discussion, one for development - like it was before I guess.
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Reply #15 on: October 24, 2005, 09:18:04 PM

I don't think I like the new layout. More forums and subforums makes stuff harder to get to. "PC / Console game discussion" didn't have much traffic to being with, now it's got right around zero.

I'd keep the child-boards, but one section for game discussion, one for development - like it was before I guess.

Second.  Before I had a "at a glance" look at the MMOG and whats receiving action, now I have to click on the subforum to see them.  Kinda messed up the rotation.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #16 on: October 24, 2005, 10:07:35 PM

I don't think I like the new layout. More forums and subforums makes stuff harder to get to. "PC / Console game discussion" didn't have much traffic to being with, now it's got right around zero.

I'd keep the child-boards, but one section for game discussion, one for development - like it was before I guess.

Second.  Before I had a "at a glance" look at the MMOG and whats receiving action, now I have to click on the subforum to see them.  Kinda messed up the rotation.

The other option is to have a million level 1 forums in their own section. I mean, is that really a preferred form of viewing? Cuz I think Child boards are luv.
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Reply #17 on: October 25, 2005, 01:52:21 AM

I'm not a big fan of the child forums, although my main complaint is that if a parent forum has unread child forums, the parent shows up as unread too.  Not that I'm trying to ignore any of the child forums, heaven forbid.  Each of them is special in its own way.

Not sure if there's a perfect solution.  Really, the ideal thing would be if each user could set up a customized "home page" consisting of all their own most-used forums in whatever layout they want.  I don't know of any forum software in existence that does such things, though.
Llava
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Reply #18 on: October 25, 2005, 01:59:49 AM

Personally, it irritates me when I'm forumwhoring to see a new post in a forum I actually watch only to find out it was just for Fantasy Sports or some other child forum that's Not For Me.

But catering to the forumwhores is not necessarily the best policy.  And really, I'm not even sure if you COULD set that up.

Oh! Oh! I know!  Let everyone organize the forums for themselves!  User defined interfaced! Million dollar idea!

You guys have the money for that sort of thing, right? Right.

That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Reply #19 on: October 25, 2005, 02:04:32 AM

If you could organize the forums yourself, you'd never seen anything that wasn't interesting to you before. Or something you didn't know about. Basically, ignorance isn't bliss when it comes to gaming. Unless you only want to play Madden.

I also hit "Mark Read" for the Fantasy Sports forum. But I deal with it.
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Reply #20 on: October 25, 2005, 09:02:47 AM

Fantasy Sports is where all the cool kids post!

My only complaint with the re-org is the elimination of the Xbox Live area. I liked being able to see what other folks were playing, and to post when I got a new XBL- enabled game.

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Reply #21 on: October 25, 2005, 11:12:04 AM

My f13 bookmark goes to the "Show unread posts since last visit" page, then I right click on "Mark as Read" and open it in a new window which I just close.  That clears all the checkmarks everywhere and leaves me with one nice central page to browse through (in the first window that I didn't close).  From there I can either read the new posts by right clicking the thread's "Last" button into a new window, or ignore the post because it is in a thread/forum I don't frequent.

I find it's the most orderly and clean way to do it, so I never really see the forum layout.  So long as someone who wants to start a new thread never abandons the idea because there is no suitable place for their topic it's all fine.  And with subforums like "Game Development", "PC/Console Gaming" and of course "General Discussion" I don't see that ever happening.
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Reply #22 on: October 25, 2005, 09:19:38 PM

Question: Does F13 shut off anyone elses HTTP proxy?  For some reason it seems to randomly shut mine down.  I am still working out as to why, I just do not have the wherewithal to narrow it down in a timely manner.  If anyone else has this issue please sign in!

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #23 on: October 27, 2005, 12:23:30 AM

I do not like the changes, and must be the only one due to others not posting.  Final bump before giving up.


Fuckers.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #24 on: October 27, 2005, 01:01:37 AM

It is somewhat less convenient for me now that I have to enter the MMOG Discussion subforum to see whether or not anyone has said anything in the CoH forum.

Is there a way to indicate new posts in the child forums from the main page without dechilding them?  Maybe make the color of the link change color?

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Reply #25 on: October 27, 2005, 06:03:07 AM

I do not like the changes, and must be the only one due to others not posting.  Final bump before giving up.


Fuckers.

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Reply #26 on: October 27, 2005, 07:26:37 AM

I do not like the changes, and must be the only one due to others not posting.

No, I just think it doesn't matter.  Not my (your, etc) site, and opinions weren't asked for.

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Reply #27 on: October 27, 2005, 11:53:21 AM

Couple of thoughts:

* I do the same as Miasma and usually just check "replies to my posts" and "unread posts since last visit". The only time I really hafta hunt around is when I post a new topic and wanna put it in the most appropriate place.

* I'm glad MMOG discussion is all in one place (was it in PC/console gaming before?) so I can avoid it altogether.

* Having a separate thread for each new release is intuitive and limits derailing.

* The news box has continued to suffer from neglect every other week or so. Could it have a different function?

* Adding a "notify me of new posts" feature would eliminate the most common complaint people seem to have about child boards, and I've seen it elsewhere (but don't know about feasibility here).

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Shockeye
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Reply #28 on: October 28, 2005, 06:25:03 AM

Is there a way to indicate new posts in the child forums from the main page without dechilding them?  Maybe make the color of the link change color?

I will look into making the link color change when I get back from Austin.
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Reply #29 on: October 28, 2005, 06:58:35 AM

Is your avatar an actor from some tv show, Shockeye?  I know I've seen him before.  What is he holding?  I love his shirt, too.  It's totally adorable.

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Llava
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Reply #30 on: October 28, 2005, 04:03:13 PM

Is there a way to indicate new posts in the child forums from the main page without dechilding them?  Maybe make the color of the link change color?

I will look into making the link color change when I get back from Austin.

Sweet, thanks.

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Reply #31 on: October 28, 2005, 04:04:57 PM

It is somewhat less convenient for me now that I have to enter the MMOG Discussion subforum to see whether or not anyone has said anything in the CoH forum.

Is there a way to indicate new posts in the child forums from the main page without dechilding them?  Maybe make the color of the link change color?

If this idea fleshes out well I vote that Llava get something special, like a pretty color name or something.  In one fell swoop my gripes will be erased and the rose tinted glasses will once again be in effect. 

Llava, man babies?

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Reply #32 on: October 28, 2005, 11:33:31 PM

Mmm, no but ask me again in a few months.  I may change my mind.

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Reply #33 on: October 29, 2005, 02:48:34 AM

It's only a matter of time before that biological clock starts ticking.
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Reply #34 on: October 29, 2005, 06:51:33 AM

It's true.  You're not getting any younger.  In a few months, what man will even want you?

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