If you were 17 in 1992...

[schild]

Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard
To get her poor dog a bone
When she bent over,
Her Rover took over
And she got a bone of her own.

[Samwise]

Song lyrics AND furries.  I think schild just beat the Internet.

[schild]

Song lyrics AND furries.  I think schild just beat the Internet.

Read it again, no furries there.

[Samwise]

Oh, you meant "dog" in the literal sense.  My bad.

[Samwise]

It would just be interesting to hear the perspectives of people from different cultures/regions/backgrounds.

Okay, in the interest of science: I'm of the opinion that anything that goes on between two consenting adults and doesn't hurt anyone else is just fine and dandy.  Bonus points if it doesn't result in permanent scarring.

Culture: Imperialist Yankee Pigdog.
Region: San Francisco, CA
Background: White/Hispanic Catholic.

[Ironwood]

Well thank you for saying you want to shoot a load on his face.

Now we can all sleep better knowing which way you swing.

God No, with that nose ??!  I'd cut my dick...

[schild]

Well thank you for saying you want to shoot a load on his face.

Now we can all sleep better knowing which way you swing.

God No, with that nose ??!  I'd cut my dick...

This is just a friendly reminder that being lewd is funny when it's funny.

For example:

Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet
Eating her curds and whey.
Along came a spider,
Who sat down beside her
And said, "Hey, what's in the bowl, bitch?"

[SuperPopTart]

Well thank you for saying you want to shoot a load on his face.

Now we can all sleep better knowing which way you swing.

God No, with that nose ??!  I'd cut my dick...

Hey! That's a strong English feature! One which I happen to love.


Thank you Samwise :)

[stray]

So blowjobs are natural and good but facial comeshots are evil and perverted?

Replace the word "blowjobs" with "oral sex", and remove the word "evil" (Why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T USE IT) and then I'll say "Yes".

Not sure if you consciously tried to do it, but that was really twisting my point, man.

[Sky]

Wow, schild is The Diceman? Whodathunkit?

Oh!

[Merusk]

It would just be interesting to hear the perspectives of people from different cultures/regions/backgrounds.

Okay, in the interest of science: I'm of the opinion that anything that goes on between two consenting adults and doesn't hurt anyone else is just fine and dandy.  Bonus points if it doesn't result in permanent scarring.

Ditto.

Background:Middle-Class White Prodestent (Presby/ Epsicipalian) upbringing
Region: Ohio
Culture:  Capitalist Running Dog Yan-kee Amer-i-kan

That said, I have no idea how it came up. Probably, as Poptart pointed out, at the point you're both naked and sucking on various body parts, it's silly to think asking questions is rude.  It's even sillier that some folk probably WOULD think it rude.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm reading out of that is:

"Since sex, being naked, and sucking body parts are viewed as nasty/naughty/freaky (or whatever) things, then asking about "other" nasty things shouldn't be questioned as being rude."

I for one see the former as being completely natural and GOOD, while the latter things to be a perversion of that goodness. I wouldn't put both in the same category at all. One does not qualify the other. And only one is nasty/naughty/freaky (or whatever ).

But since people have been told by centuries long Puritanical thinking that a good thing was a "bad thing", they in turn, lump all bad things with it (but I digress a bit...This is another thread in it's own right).

[edit] And no, I'm not calling any of you Puritans.....But if I understood correctly, then I AM calling you victims of Puritans.

No, I'm saying sex is an absurd biological process.  All of it. It's a good thing we don't think about that, though because we'd die out as a species if we thought about how stupid we look in the middle of things.  (The Tombstone would read,"Mankind: victims of self-image and ego.") Since it's so damn absurd anyway, you may as well inquire how best to maximize your and your partner's enjoyment of the process.  You're two (or more) people looking how best to get off and trigger that special pleasure toggle in the brain.  May as well find out how best to scratch that itch, since that's the goal in modern sex.

Hangups about it are even odder, and while i have my own limits on what I find thrilling, my hangups aren't my partner's problem.  They simply mean that the two of us aren't as compatable as we could be.  Something you either work around, or decide is enough that you can't be together.  The same as any other issue.

[Ironwood]

I think the problem is Strays definition that it has to involve physical pleasure to both parties or it's perverse.  (or at least, that's what I thought you said.)


I think that's not really a decent explanation to be going on with.  While I'm sure Mrs with Load on Face is sitting there saying 'What does he get out of this ??  Sigh'  I'm also sure that there are just as many men that are sitting there saying 'christ, my hand hurts now.'


Possibly.

But, really, this might turn into a 7 page anal sex thread.  Nothing good comes of that.  (oh God, puns.)

[Cheddar]

You people are wierd.


Personally I draw the line on pain.  I do not mean little love bites, I am talking whippings and the like.  Same with "play" rape.  It makes me uncomfortable to choke someone during sexual intercourse; amazingly enough I have met with many women who enjoy this.  Anal sex, dotting the eyes, etc, I guess that would depend on the person.  Real key is to make someone comfortable and the ability for both to trust each other.

But that is just me!

And people who sexually abuse children should be shot.  Same with animals (people using them for sexual purposes).  One of the more popular posters argued those points many moons ago, but the simple fact of the matter is that things that cannot consensually decide should not be subject to anothers sexual perversions. 

[Kenrick]

What the fuck kind of thread did I create here?  You people are... damn, I don't think there's a word for it.

[Shockeye]

What the fuck kind of thread did I create here?  You people are... damn, I don't think there's a word for it.

predictable

[Kenrick]

heheh... you said "dick"... heheh

Den this motherfucker already.

[stray]

But, really, this might turn into a 7 page anal sex thread.  Nothing good comes of that.  (oh God, puns.)

See, that would be funny.

But I actually like you guys, so I won't do it.

[MrHat]

It started with some naked women.

[Soln]

[voodoolily]

Background: working class (read: poor white trash) Protestant
Region: Orygun
Culture: mostly far-left Socialist/Material Humanist/Fashionista

I have issues with porn. Firstly because most women who work in it are victims of childhood molestation, are drug-addicted and are therefore oftentimes not really cognizant of what they're doing (which leads the question of whether or not what they're doing is actually consensual). However, I am not one of those feminazis who wants pr0n banned. If people wanna look at it, fine. I understand it can be an important part of some couples' sex lives. But I don't want my partner to look at it. That's primarily because I, in my own fucked-up way, view it as infidelity if my partner gets off on other women. I know that's ridiculous from a biological perspective, but fortunately some men aren't that into porn and the one I'm marrying is one of 'em. And he thinks I'm hot. So nyah nyah nyah.

Anything else between consenting adults doesn't offend me (even if I'm personally not into it). I even think if some poor girl is so desperate she'll put peanut butter on her poonaynay to get a little doggie action, that's gross, but fine (sorry, I read Savage Love). Penetrating animals isn't. Sexual contact with children is not okay, but if kids wanna fool around with each other I don't see the harm. I don't think a girl who's 14, menstruates and has the body of an adult is necessarily a child, but that doesn't mean it's okay for a 20-yr old to bang her. But if she wants to fuck a boy her own age, her parents shouldn't be able to press statutory rape charges.

Clear as mud?

[Cheddar]

I have issues with porn. Firstly because most women who work in it are victims of childhood molestation, are drug-addicted and are therefore oftentimes not really cognizant of what they're doing (which leads the question of whether or not what they're doing is actually consensual). However, I am not one of those feminazis who wants pr0n banned. If people wanna look at it, fine. I understand it can be an important part of some couples' sex lives. But I don't want my partner to look at it. That's primarily because I, in my own fucked-up way, view it as infidelity if my partner gets off on other women. I know that's ridiculous from a biological perspective, but fortunately some men aren't that into porn and the one I'm marrying is one of 'em. And he thinks I'm hot. So nyah nyah nyah.

Clear as mud?

Proof?

[voodoolily]

...that he thinks I'm hot or isn't that into porn? ask him.
...that sex workers are drug-addicted rape victims? It's pretty text-book actually. I can find links if you want.

[HaemishM]

...that sex workers are drug-addicted rape victims? It's pretty text-book actually. I can find links if you want.

That one, because I'm really thinking that for the pr0n industry, that is not necessarily the case. While it might have been at one time in the seedier days of pr0n, nowadays, not so much.

[Cheddar]

...that sex workers are drug-addicted rape victims? It's pretty text-book actually. I can find links if you want.

That one, because I'm really thinking that for the pr0n industry, that is not necessarily the case. While it might have been at one time in the seedier days of pr0n, nowadays, not so much.

Exactly.  Of course this is from the woman who believes that the rape of little boys is humorous, but the rape of women is not.

[voodoolily]

I think there are two distinctions regarding pr0n now vs. then: first, there are a few more studios (is that what you call them?) run by women/couples and appear to be healthier. These ones tend to test their employees for STDs and might actually use condom-application as part of the foreplay. The second is the snuff film/rape genre that I don't think has been popular for more than 10 or 15 years. This is obviously worse than regular porn from the standpoint of worker safety.

According to a 1995 survey, 24% of porn actresses that were surveyed had been molested as children. That seems awfully high to me. The survey is flawed, however, in that no non-sex wrokers were surveyed as a control, and the number of respondents is unknown. This is what that link says:

It would be interesting to know what proportion of sex workers (men as well as women) are satisfied or dissatisfied with their jobs, how many are forced into it by economic necessity and so on, but I have been unable to discover any formal survey.

Cheddar, just because I tell and laugh at fucked-up jokes doesnt mean I think it's funny that boys actually get molested. I do, however, think it's funny that you like to post pictures of your little girls on the internet and then get mad when people question what their futures hold.

[Cheddar]

Posting pictures of ones children (non sexual I might add) and laughing at the sexual molestion of children are two completely seperate topics.  Do not start with me young lady.

My hypocrisy < VD's.

[Rasix]

Wow, how exciting.  Take it to PMs.

[Margalis]

Wow, you people are absurd.

All I was saying is this: On a FIRST DATE it is a bit ackward and tasteless to try to bring up that you want to blow your load on your partners face. You guys tried to spin that as "repression" or fear or something like that. So again, can I take a dump on your chest and piss in your mouth? To not ask would be repressed, no?

I would be willing to bet that if you looked at men who asked that on the first date, 95% of them are total slimeballs. It has nothing to do with repression. And it doesn't mean you can't bring that stuff up eventually. Is it really so bad to suggest maybe that is second date (or later) material?

If you want to shit on someone, cum in their face, have anal sex, shove a carrot up their ass, have a threesome or whatever you can go ahead and do that. I just think asking about those on date one is a bit odd. That doesn't make me some sort of weirdly repressed individual.

"Can I shove my fist in your ass?"
"Um...no..."
"Ok then, can I piss on you then?"
"WTF no!"
"Hey, I'm just trying to find out what you like and dislike. So can we get your roomate in here?"
"..."
"Can I put on my Wizard hat and robe?"

[voodoolily]

...that sex workers are drug-addicted rape victims? It's pretty text-book actually. I can find links if you want.

That one, because I'm really thinking that for the pr0n industry, that is not necessarily the case. While it might have been at one time in the seedier days of pr0n, nowadays, not so much.

Well, I searched everywhere, and I haven't found published studies. I'm still waiting for a huge pdf from the American Journal of Sociology to load. Oh, well. But it's funny that you say "seedier days of pr0n" as a past-time thing, because the cnotent of modern porn is actually much seedier now (violent, anyway) in what it portrays.

[Merusk]

Meh, I'm of the opinion that if you're willing enough to hop in the sack with someone on the first date, it's your fault if they wanna piss on you.

See, I'm not 'easy' even if I am 'perverted.'

[Kenrick]

This is one of those threads where we should all we especially thankful that TFWSNBN is no longer around.

[HaemishM]

...that sex workers are drug-addicted rape victims? It's pretty text-book actually. I can find links if you want.

That one, because I'm really thinking that for the pr0n industry, that is not necessarily the case. While it might have been at one time in the seedier days of pr0n, nowadays, not so much.

Well, I searched everywhere, and I haven't found published studies. I'm still waiting for a huge pdf from the American Journal of Sociology to load. Oh, well. But it's funny that you say "seedier days of pr0n" as a past-time thing, because the cnotent of modern porn is actually much seedier now (violent, anyway) in what it portrays.

I wouldn't say that, I just think there is more pr0n being produced now, and more of it is being directly marketed through the Internet than in the early days of pr0n being run by the mob and only available through mail order and hush hush in a back room somewhere. More pr0n produced, of a lot more variety and much more above board these days.

most women who work in it are victims of childhood molestation

Also, 24% may be high, though I'm not entirely sure. However, 24% is hardly most women who work in pr0n.

Yes, if you ask for the money shot on the first date, that's a bit much. I wasn't talking about a first date myself, so I see the disconnect. Those who would ask that on a first date are probably only dating those they think will give it to them on the first date.

This is one of those threads where we should all we especially thankful that TFWSNBN is no longer around.

Fuck yes.

[Samwise]

Replace the word "blowjobs" with "oral sex", and remove the word "evil" (Why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T USE IT) and then I'll say "Yes".

Not sure if you consciously tried to do it, but that was really twisting my point, man.

Hey hey hey now, you said:

I for one see the former as being completely natural and GOOD, while the latter things to be a perversion of that goodness.

You said "GOOD" in all caps, and then said the latter things are a "perversion of goodness".  It looked to me like a roundabout way of saying "evil", but I retract the word if that's not what you meant.

As for replacing "blowjobs" with "oral sex", I refuse.  If your statement applies to oral sex it applies to blowjobs, because blowjobs are oral sex, and a rose by any other name yada yada.  I used the slightly coarser word because I wanted to remind you subtly that not all people think oral sex is natural and good - in fact, oral sex is generally considered "sodomy" and is technically illegal in several states (though not enforced).

My point is that your notions of what's "good" and what's "perverted" are fairly arbitrary, and you're in no position to accuse other people of being victims of Puritanical repression because they consider a shot to the face to be in the same ballpark as a shot in the mouth (whether they consider both to be good or both to be "perversions of good").  I mean, if you look at it from a geographical standpoint, it's only a few inches of difference, right?  Any "perversion" or "degradation" or other Puritanical expressions of outrage are purely in the eye of the beholder IMO.

[Margalis]

Yes, it is important to realize that people's dating lives are self-selected.

If this is a constant problem for someone they obviously are doing something to constantly hook up with such winners. Usually the answer to "why can't I find a good man?" is "you aren't looknig for one."

[Shockeye]

Usually the answer to "why can't I find a good man?" is "you aren't looknig for one."

It's hard to look for a good man when there's something in your eye.