Serenity spoiler thread

[Yegolev]

This is because Zoe (2nd in command) gave Mal (captain) a hard time about not saving that extra from the Reavers.

Okay, that kind of makes sense to me, but I'm still having trouble making the jump from "Scolding: You don't care about helpless people" to "Action: take dangerous, unstable weapon aboard ship, putting self, ship and crew in danger". That latter bit seems to contradict the character at this point, because he's put up some dialog about putting his crew and ship first and strangers later.

Jayne points this out but Mal has already made his decision.  As for shooting the Alliance officer, he was really pissed at the time, and he fought against them in the war.  This shows Jayne's role as the "bad extreme" or "shoulder devil" since he doesn't have Mal's sense of loyalty and whatnot, and is counterpoint to Zoe as Mal's conscience.

It is bad that there could be confusion without the backstory, but if you thought you might like the movie if you knew what the hell was going on, Netflick the show and try again.

I don't know how to spell conscience, and I don't plan on learning that today.

[WindupAtheist]

Dafoe and Pare beating the shit out of each other is classic.

If there are two words which occur too infrequently in cinema, they are the words "sledgehammer fight".

EDIT:  Regarding Ironwood's "queue" problem, I hear Serenity is actually doing okay for itself in the UK.

[Fargull]

As for shooting the Alliance officer, he was really pissed at the time, and he fought against them in the war.

I also took it to mean with no survivors any readers the Alliance might have will not realize that Serenity was there...  That and the fact Book just died in his arms moments before and it was a good point maker for the whole your staying here or going with, or if you get me angry I will shoot you next...

[Bunk]

Well, thanks, now that makes sense.

This movie needed ushers handing out cheatsheets or something before the show. A lot of this material comes from the TV series and I can identify maybe a few lines in the movie meant to reference each fact.

It's a tough call, because going in I was worried that they would waste 30 minutes of the movie with backstory exposition. Having seen the entire series, I was glad that they didn't. He did cover most of the key relationship points in the opening minutes, but it was brief. I can see how someone coming in to the show cold would be left wanting more though.

[Pococurante]

And maybe go buy the DVDs... ;)  Who's to say they really cared so much about a sequel movie as increasing the residuals value.

[AcidCat]

As for shooting the guy in cold blood - well, that's just the tone of the show.

Heh, like the best scene of The Train Job - after the crew has got the drop on a couple of Niska's henchmen, they're bound just outside Serenity's cargo bay.

Mal: Okay, so you take back Niska's money and we're even, job declined.

Niska's Henchman 1: Big mistake, I'll hunt you down, you'll never get away with this, blah blah.

Mal kicks Henchman 1 into running Serenity engine. Goes over to Henchman 2.

Mal: Okay, so you take Niska's money back, we're even.

Niska's Henchman 2: Sure! No problem! Sounds great!

[RhyssaFireheart]

And maybe go buy the DVDs... ;) 

Done.

Found them onsale and order these plus the first season of Battlestar Galactica. 

[Cheddar]

Just got back from watcing this movie.  Le Brilliance.  I knew I would enjoy it, but holy shit was it good!

This was just pure genius in the making.  The musical score alone was well thought out and executed.  Plot was well thought out, characters developed well (I have yet to see Firefly), and the ending left me yearning for more.  Of most important is the little details.  I am a detail person; I blame my time in the military for this.  There were just so many little details, from the dropping of some foreign language to the way the fights developed, to the fact that they had to repaint the ships name on the side.  I am assuming those of you who were complaining earlier in the thread about the fact that they had to fly (sail?) to Mr. Universes pad to deliver the message are not very technology oriented.  Seriously, I can think of multiple reasons as to why they had to travel there, of prime importance it was obvious that Mr. Universe was in trouble and there was no way the message would be delivered if they had just e-mailed it or whatever.  Notice Mal brought Reevers with him?  It was not to have tea. 

Final thought, WUA you can suck shit.  I sorta agreed with you up until I saw the movie, but it is obvious you were flaming in the thread to increase e-peen. 


edit.  This was all my opinion obviously, and not pre-assumed bias thanks to my apparent F13 bias.  I expected to enjoy it, but the level I enjoyed it was very surprising. 

[WindupAtheist]

Good thing you caught it when you did.  It'll be out of the theaters in another week or two, as owners use their screens to display something more profitable.  Like the umpteenth week of Corpse Bride, or that dreadful-looking Doom flick.  :-D

[Rasix]

What's your point?  That people will line up week after week to watch complete crap because it's shiney, has shitty cgi and an equally shitty plot (don't forget Hell and MONSTARS!!!)? That some good films do poorly while other good films do good based on the notoriety of director?  You mean movies that don't do well don't stay in the theatre because Joss Whedon says so?

Wow. Deep, man. Deep.

You can really shut the fuck up anytime now. 

[Samprimary]

Good thing you caught it when you did.  It'll be out of the theaters in another week or two, as owners use their screens to display something more profitable.  Like the umpteenth week of Corpse Bride, or that dreadful-looking Doom flick.  :-D

I'm serious, man. I'm having trouble determining what the deal is with you and this thread.

Is it a joke? Do you think it's funny? Do you like being mean and being loathed? Is there an overarching, arrogant point? Are you testing reactions as some sort of a social experiment? Is this satire?

Why are you bending over backwards to purposefully be an asshole? I'm honestly asking. I'm incapable of comprehending your motives.

[Cheddar]

It is a manifestation of his psychosis.  Obviously he has some education, but still remembers when he was mocked and derided throughout his childhood and teens.  Online we all have washboard stomaches and rippling muscles, yet his school money is still being stolen by the bullies. 




edit.  Its Bruce.  I know it is.

[schild]

Might want to fix that last sentence there chief, it's a grammatical abortion.

[Ironwood]

I still haven't seen it.  The trouble with actually having a life is that when your schedule goes to shit it's hard to reschedule.

Did I ever mention that I hate life ?

[Roac]

Cheddar's edit has it.

[stray]

Y'know I blew that off when I first saw it, but now that you mention it again..

[WindupAtheist]

I like to hate things.  F13 hates to like things.  But I like to hate things that F13 likes, and F13 hates it when I like to hate the things it likes.  Sometimes I like to like things which F13 hates to like, and it hates that.

Meanwhile, in other news:  Nerds won't go down without a fight!

Increase the payoff, ensure a sequel.

I went last night and took a girl who knew nothing about it. Now she's going to take her friends tonight. And I'll be doing the same thing. That's at least 10 tickets sold that I'll be directly responsible for selling.

And, no. She didn't let me kiss her.

She just likes you as a friend.  Pussy.

[stray]

F13 is not an entity. That's your first mistake. With this Me vs Them mentality, you set yourself up to be an bigger asshole than the rest of us.

Me vs Them is really the defining factor between all "unique" assholes who've passed through here. Bruce, Hyu, Geldon (Maybe? -- Still undecided on that).

[Merusk]

Hyu's too damned clueless to be qualified as an asshole.

[Daeven]

<snip the horror>

Goddamn dude. I'm really sorry that Serenity came over to your house, drank all your beer, pissed on your carpet, killed your dog then stole your girlfriend. I can really understand the h8.

 

[WindupAtheist]

This YTMND made me think of this thread.

PS:

LOL

[schild]

PS:

LOL

Obviously, you made that. But it doesn't matter. Because it was funny.

[Margalis]

How are estimated marketing costs not applicable? Clearly the movie had marketing, I've been seeing commercials for it for months.

[Ironwood]

I thought I'd post this as amusing before Nutsack posted it as 'meaningful' :

http://www.columbian.com/lifeHome/lifeHomeNews/10102005news9829.cfm

[schild]

I thought I'd post this as amusing before Nutsack posted it as 'meaningful' :

http://www.columbian.com/lifeHome/lifeHomeNews/10102005news9829.cfm

That's not "meaningful" or "amusing" - that's a Whedon Cultist. It's the sort of shit a Buffy/Angel fanboi does. Comparing him to a trekkie was 110% spot on.

[Ironwood]

Yeah and I agree.  It's nonsense and should be ridiculed as such.  You don't find Trekkies amusing ?  Or cultists ?  I do.

What I didn't want is for anyone to post it and say "hahhaha, teh taers of tah jaded and ownnnt.  Lollll!!!"1)"

If you see what I mean.

[WindupAtheist]

hahhaha, teh taers of tah jaded and ownnnt.  Lollll!!!"1

[Cheddar]

That name change is the coolest invention ever.  Even cooler than this:





Well, maybe not cooler.  But they are on the same plane.

[Roac]

How are estimated marketing costs not applicable?

I think it means not available.  Quite a number of the movies I was looking at are marked that.

[WindupAtheist^2]

Oh noes!

[stray]

Oh noes!

"WindupAtheist^2"

Okay now...

I don't think even SirBruce took it this far. Even he knew when to can it.

Why do care so much that no one here likes you? Why do you feel the need to make an alt profile and post...Again? Act like a fucking man and leave. Or just shut the fuck up for a while.

[edit] Oh noes!

Eh, didn't see the other thread...

[grebo]

Just saw it.  Loved it.

When they find the tape on the poor scientist lady's ship, Mal says something about her ship being old and Serenity not having equipment to play the tape thing.  Fairly sure....

Also, the point about installing her player in Serenity doesn't bother me, they don't have a computer geek in the crew... kinda like asking your auto mechanic to get MythTV installed for you.  Maybe they could have done it, but they may not have thought of it.

I'd worry more about the fact that Mr. Universe had a seekrit player setup with the exact right drive all set to go.  They should have had the robot fix up something out of the broken stuff.

The whole Miranda thing was pure genius IMO, much better than that Clone Wars crap.  You just know there are people in government right now who would be willing to try something like that.

[Samwise]

but they may not have thought of it.

That's kinda the only thing I have trouble with.  I can suspend disbelief on a lot of crazy crap, but having a crew that includes multiple genius-level IQs not spot an easy answer isn't one of them.   

The whole Miranda thing was pure genius IMO, much better than that Clone Wars crap.  You just know there are people in government right now who would be willing to try something like that.

Agreed.  And I was very happy that they had rational explanation of some sort for the Reavers.  The whole "went mad on the edge of space" thing always sounded like a load of crap to me.

[Megrim]

Hrm, talking about continuities, one thing _did_ seriously bother me after seeing the film:

About the Reavers. How the hell is it that they are completely batshit insane (as explained by the vid they find on Miranda), yet are still somehow able to operate very complex machinery such as spacecraft (particularly the big cruiser-type ones that would require large numbers of them working in unison) with any semblance of cohesion? Furthermore, why have they not turned on each other and self-destructed as a society in the ten years that they've been floating around in "Reaver space", since i would imagine they'd get pretty bored after a while. I know Wash mentiones them sending out raiding parties, but on how large a scale? Enough to satisfy the collective insanity of several hundred thousand (or however many there are)?

 - meg

[Comstar]

Same way Chaos Space Marines have been doing Black Crusades every few 1000 years....

(Anyone else think reavers=Warhammer40K Khorne Chaos army?)