Short interview with the head of Team NINJA.

[Jain Zar]

Why not just make a fucking CGI movie then. Advent Children was a work of art.

Everything you say is now in doubt.
Because that wasn't art, or anything vaguely RESEMBLING art.

[Margalis]

People on this site call whatever shit they happen to like art.

His statement was not contradictory because he doesn't understand the difference between graphics and gameplay. If you doubt this, go play DOA: Beach Volleyball, or read his comments on DOA4. 90% of it is how so and so new character has some nice animation.

Every 6 months or so he will give an interview where all he does is bash Tekken. He is a small child. The idea that you need great graphics or else people will just play Backgammon is beyond stupid. If you can't figure out why that argument is bad, you are stupid as well. Seriously. (Obvious counter-examples for the win!)

It's funny because DOA is a two player game, much like Chess, Backgammon, etc. Yet DOA has some of the worst gameplay in a fighting game. The guy is basically a troll.

But what do you expect? Their main franchise is based on bouncing digital tits and everybody knows it. Obviously they have to adopt some sort of confusing, BS position so they have something else to talk about. Otherwise you have this:

DOA - Bouncing tits, check. Gameplay, x.
DOA:XBV - Bouncing tits, check. Gamplay, x.

Interviewer:
So...the new DOA had some tits?
"yes."
Ok...um...we're done?

[schild]

Pointing out how much Mai helped Fatal Fury with the casual gamer would be pointless with you. Way to completely not mention Ninja Gaiden to help your comments about him. Seriously. The gameplay is 50x better than both DOA and DOABV put together. And it wasn't until recently that another platformer even came CLOSE to that level of fluidity and control.

[Llava]

He never said story wasn't important.

I know.  That's why I pointed out that I'm aware that was what you inferred, rather than what he said.

[Margalis]

Pointing out how much Mai helped Fatal Fury with the casual gamer would be pointless with you. Way to completely not mention Ninja Gaiden to help your comments about him. Seriously. The gameplay is 50x better than both DOA and DOABV put together. And it wasn't until recently that another platformer even came CLOSE to that level of fluidity and control.

If you want this to be a casual gamer website where everyone raves about breasts, feel free. Until then I'm going to stick with the opinion that breasts really don't make a game good. Mai was in FF2, which was not a popular game. I don't think she helped at all. If you want to disagree, I would love to see some evidence that Mai made Fatal Fury popular with the average gamer or that ANYTHING made that set of games popular with the casual gaming crowd. The Fatal Fury set of games is not popular with casual players at all. And of course, the gameplay of Fatal Fury (from 2 onwards) is much better than DOA.

And I care why anyway? If grinds make MMORPGs sell better I'm not for those either. And I have no huge problem with breasts - I have problems with breasts as the main selling point.

As far as Ninja Gaiden is concerned, I covered that. I don't like it for reasons already stated.

Arguing seriously that Team Ninja is not a graphics above gameplay shop is a pretty difficult battle. They made an entire game the only point of which is to collect swimsuits for digital women. Think about that. Yes graphics sell games blah blah blah target demographics like breasts blah blah blah. If you will buy a game for breasts, Team Ninja is the company for you. If you won't by a game for breasts they've made at most one good game in the last decade.

[Azazel]

Every 6 months or so he will give an interview where all he does is bash Tekken. He is a small child.

hm. The Tekken series must really consistantly be reaming the DOA series in the poophole sales-wise.

[stray]

I hear Tekken 5 is good, but the series hasn't been much of anything since the PS1....While DOA was important enough for Microsoft to want exclusive XBox rights to it. I don't think this has anything to do with DOA's failure to succeed ---- Because it simply HAS succeeded plenty, in America, Japan, and elsewhere (I don't like it much myself, but I'll at least admit that).

[Margalis]

I don't think Tekken outsells DOA. If it does it isn't by a huge huge margin. But, DOA totally tanked as an arcade game while Tekken does well, and Tekken has more acclaim than DOA. Tekken has national tournaments, DOA does not. And in Asia Tekken is much more popular.

It's just grandstanding. In Japan VF is far and away the most popular and critically acclaimed 3D fighter, so he can't go off on that, it would make him look like a retard. Tekken is a softer target and it makes him feel good to constantly claim that DOA is better. It wouldn't surprise me if he once got turned down for a job at Namco or something either...

[Yegolev]

I played at some Tekken5, and you can tell that they spent time playing VF4 before and during development.

[Margalis]

In Japan the VF series is far and away the number 1 3D fighter. The Sega World arcade has like 15 VF4 machines and on a Wednesday afternoon they are ALL busy, it's insane.

Arcades in Japan are really cool in general, they have some truly wacky games. Sega has a networked action RPG game, and there are a number of games where you buy different cards and put them on a flat playing field, and play by moving them around. For example one of them is a soccer game where you slide your cards around to put them in position, and another is some sort of historical simulation game. It's pretty neat as it combines card collecting with an arcade game.

[Evil Elvis]

Virtua Fighter has always been the best of the 3d fighting games.

Fuck DOA.  Double fuck Tekken.  Soul Calibur is good, but no VF.  None of the rest are really worth mentioning.

[stray]

Virtua Fighter has always been the best of the 3d fighting games.

Fuck DOA.  Double fuck Tekken.  Soul Calibur is good, but no VF.  None of the rest are really worth mentioning.

Def Jam: Battle for NYC Beeotch!!

I shit you not.

[Rodent]

Pointing out how much Mai helped Fatal Fury with the casual gamer would be pointless with you. Way to completely not mention Ninja Gaiden to help your comments about him. Seriously. The gameplay is 50x better than both DOA and DOABV put together. And it wasn't until recently that another platformer even came CLOSE to that level of fluidity and control.

I just know I am gonna get shit for this but I enjoyed the gameplay in Psychonauts a shitton more then Ninja Gaiden. I mean Ninja Gaiden came borderline C64 hard, but atleast back then we had MR Z doing trainers for us. ( Yes, Ninja Gaiden still had 50x better gameplay then DOA and DOABV, and it was a good game )

[WindupAtheist]

In Japan the VF series is far and away the number 1 3D fighter. The Sega World arcade has like 15 VF4 machines and on a Wednesday afternoon they are ALL busy, it's insane.

Arcades in Japan are really cool in general, they have some truly wacky games. Sega has a networked action RPG game, and there are a number of games where you buy different cards and put them on a flat playing field, and play by moving them around. For example one of them is a soccer game where you slide your cards around to put them in position, and another is some sort of historical simulation game. It's pretty neat as it combines card collecting with an arcade game.

In an arcade?  WTF?  Tell more?

[Miasma]

They're trying to get World War 2 right.  The moment some kid figures out how to bomb Pearl Harbour completely and win the battle of Midway it's back on.

[Margalis]

The game I was talking about is set in the Edo period I beleive. It's like a real-time Koei game. You have different cards that represent armies or commanders or something like that and you slide them around on the map. If you shake them in activates a special ability, like a special charge attack or something like that.

It's pretty cool because I've never seen anything like it before. It's a big flat surface and you just slide cards around on it, shake them, etc. I believe that was a multiplayer game as well, and you could fight the other person. Maybe soccer was too, I didn't notice.