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Alkiera
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Reply #35 on: August 26, 2005, 10:50:44 AM

Google's entire search engine is built on top of copyright infringement but major copyright holders (the biggest hypocrites of all) for the most part ignore that fact because it drives traffic to their websites. Google keeps cached pages around long after they no longer exist and calls them a "supplimental result".

Oh look, it's the happy fun land of copyright infringement lawsuits. Apparently Perfect 10 doesn't like Google indexing their images.

Because, you know, it's not trivial to prevent Google's spiders from indexing your site, or anything.
If you've got the skill to build a website, you should be able to figure out the format for a robots.txt or the robots meta tag, or both.

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Reply #36 on: August 26, 2005, 12:54:54 PM

I think Google is becoming ripe for a new kid on the block to usurp them, at least in the realm of search engine functionality, as Google branches out to be jack of all deals. Their superior indexing algorithms, which powered them into dominance have receded a bit  in recent times. I've noted that a lot of web pages have fallen off their index listings, and a few years ago they were quick to spider new sites, whereas today it can take weeks to months.

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Reply #37 on: August 26, 2005, 01:04:24 PM

I think Google is becoming ripe for a new kid on the block to usurp them, at least in the realm of search engine functionality, as Google branches out to be jack of all deals. Their superior indexing algorithms, which powered them into dominance have receded a bit  in recent times. I've noted that a lot of web pages have fallen off their index listings, and a few years ago they were quick to spider new sites, whereas today it can take weeks to months.

Wasn't Teoma supposed to be The Next Big Thing a few years ago?
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Reply #38 on: August 26, 2005, 01:06:38 PM

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Reply #39 on: August 26, 2005, 02:32:16 PM

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I really wouldn't mind a Googlfied computer world.

All well and good, until we find out that Google's secret parent company is SkyNet.

Better them than EA.

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Reply #40 on: August 26, 2005, 03:09:19 PM

Google's entire search engine is built on top of copyright infringement but major copyright holders (the biggest hypocrites of all) for the most part ignore that fact because it drives traffic to their websites. Google keeps cached pages around long after they no longer exist and calls them a "supplimental result".

Oh look, it's the happy fun land of copyright infringement lawsuits. Apparently Perfect 10 doesn't like Google indexing their images.

Because, you know, it's not trivial to prevent Google's spiders from indexing your site, or anything.
If you've got the skill to build a website, you should be able to figure out the format for a robots.txt or the robots meta tag, or both.

Alkiera

I think you are misreading the issue. Google isn't linking images from Perfect 10. They are linking images from XXX spam sites that are ripping off Perfect 10's images. So the question comes - is Google responsible for linking to a site that has copyright infringing content?

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Reply #41 on: August 26, 2005, 03:21:54 PM

I don't think linking is the issue.  The issue is that Google hosts any content that it indexes - in the case of images, it makes a thumbnail copy of each indexed image and hosts it on its servers so you can browse results faster.

Is Google the right target to sue?  I'm going to say no, because you can easily block them from indexing the images on your site, so for them to end up indexing them anyway the images would have to have been ganked by some other site to begin with, in which case they're the ones you should be suing.
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Reply #42 on: August 26, 2005, 03:25:02 PM

So what do people think about the wayback machine?

http://www.archive.org/

I love it, sometimes I go look at dead sites like markeedragonsucks and giggle inside.  And outside.

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Reply #43 on: August 26, 2005, 03:29:04 PM

I was just thinking about that.  I can only imagine that nobody's sued them because they're not a household name and there probably wouldn't be any money in it.
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Reply #44 on: August 26, 2005, 04:56:09 PM

I find that google results now are far worse than they were a few years ago. That seems to happen with every site, and I have no idea why. It seems that when a new site matches the quality of the links returned just continually degrade over time.

One thing that is ripe for the picking is organizing results by relatedness. The classic example of this is if you do a seach for "jaguar", you'll get some for the animal, some for the car, some for the old atari system, etc.

There are search engines out there that do this categorization but a lot of them have interface issues. If someone can get it working well with a nice interface it would be very helpful.

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Reply #45 on: August 27, 2005, 10:44:24 AM

I find that google results now are far worse than they were a few years ago. That seems to happen with every site, and I have no idea why. It seems that when a new site matches the quality of the links returned just continually degrade over time.

One thing that is ripe for the picking is organizing results by relatedness. The classic example of this is if you do a seach for "jaguar", you'll get some for the animal, some for the car, some for the old atari system, etc.

There are search engines out there that do this categorization but a lot of them have interface issues. If someone can get it working well with a nice interface it would be very helpful.

http://www.clusty.com

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Reply #46 on: August 27, 2005, 11:17:55 AM

Yeah, that's totally what I'm talking about. That site is a bit busy, the yellow and blue color scheme is pretty horrid along with the logo, but it seems to work pretty well. One nice thing about sites like that is it allows you to easily refine your search, and it's gold for looking for terms/names/etc that are pretty common.

On an unrelated note, my bad typing idicates that lusty.com is a MUD site...weird.

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Reply #47 on: August 27, 2005, 02:18:53 PM

I used to play LustyMud.   :-D

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Reply #48 on: August 27, 2005, 02:19:42 PM

I used to play LustyMud.   :-D

I've lusted after a mud wrestler... does that count?
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Reply #49 on: August 27, 2005, 03:02:44 PM

I used to play LustyMud.   :-D

I've lusted after a mud wrestler... does that count?

Yes.

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Reply #50 on: August 27, 2005, 04:25:31 PM

Don't forget about Google's AdSense stuff. That's where the money is.

Hell, mapquest.com put google ads on the page and went from making almost nothing to making millions. Advertisers love targetted ads, especially in the travel/entertainment sector.

Anything Google comes out with is to drive those ads (thus Google Maps, Google Local, etc). As someone else said, I don't see how the Google IM client ties into that, but I'm sure we'll find out.

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