CoV Bonus Disc

[Signe]

The bonus disc for pre-orders should be shipping on August 15th or there abouts. 

# Bonus Disc Includes: Beta Access to City of Villains™ (start date to be finalized)
# Two-day head-start – Play City of Villains before it ships to the public!
# An exclusive In-game crab spider Battle Helmet
# Limited Edition “Lord Recluse vs. Statesman” City of Villains poster
# A 14 Day FREE TRIAL for the City of Heroes game for the purchaser of the pre-order AND a friend
# Bonus CD-ROM includes videos, art, wallpapers, screenshots, Rogue Isles map, the City of Heroes™ comic book and more!

[stray]

The word "sequel" (rather than "expansion") has me totally confused and completely sold. I have to see exactly what it is.

[Signe]

I don't know how they're handling it, either.  Statesmen and his gang have said several things about it can be an expansion and/or a totally different game.  They're very cagey about how they plan to price it, too.  Either they have no idea what they're going to do yet or... umm... I think that's it, really.

[MrHat]

Where's the best place to preorder in order to get this pre-order disc?

[Llava]

http://www.cityofvillains.com/pre-order/

Links at the bottom for your preferred retailer.

[schild]

So -

You get the bonus disc. Catass as one of those summoner guys for the pre-release days and see if the grind is still mindnumbingly bad after level 10 and 48 hours. If it's not, you pick up the game. No offense to cryptic - much love - but less grind plz.

[MrHat]

I have to pay for the full game?

[stray]

I have to pay for the full game?

What do you mean?

If you're asking if you have to pay for City of Heroes, then no. Supposedly CoV is standalone, as well as a compliment to CoH.

[MrHat]

I have to pay for the full game?

What do you mean?

If you're asking if you have to pay for City of Heroes, then no. Supposedly CoV is standalone, as well as a compliment to CoH.

No, there's no preorder option at EBgames.com, just a pay 50 bucks for CoV thingy.

[Signe]

I have CoV pre-ordered from EB. 

Voila!

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/243478.asp

[stray]

No, there's no preorder option at EBgames.com, just a pay 50 bucks for CoV thingy.

Oh.....If you just get the bonus disc, the same thing I did for the MxO might work in this case. I canceled the preorder for that, but it did allow me to stay in beta until release day.

[Viin]

If you select the option 'pickup from store' and you decide you don't want it .. just don't go pick it up. (Though they still charge you $5 for the preorder - "to pay for shipping to the store").

[HaemishM]

A 14 Day FREE TRIAL for the City of Heroes game for the purchaser of the pre-order AND a friend

What... the... fuck?

I know they are trying to position it as a separate game, but I sincerely hope they aren't trying to go the way of the double subscription/charge more for both scenario on CoV. I will rescind my "Not Being Cockmunch Developers" award if that's the case, because it's bullshit. They've positioned CoV as an expansion the entire time of release. Don't try to sell me it as a new, entirely separate game.

EDIT: Also, $50 is too much. Too fucking much. Don't give me the shit about "It's also a standalone game." It's a fucking expansion. It was written on a tweaked up version of the same goddamn engine as CoH. It's not an entirely new development. It's CoH 2006. Don't do that.

[Dren]

I really thought I'd be interested in starting back up again once CoV started poking its head out of the sand, but I'm not so sure now.  I still haven't seen anything that makes me believe that the game is fun past level 20-25.  In fact, it WAS fun up to 20-25, but to do it 2-3 more times just has no appeal to me.   Not even doing it as a villain gets me going either.

I'm guessing I'll wait for it to release, let you guys play it for awhile and then decide based off your hate filled posts here.  I just do not see the "hook" for me in all this.

Lower the leveling curve to WoW proportions and I'm there though.  I'm not betting they'll do that.  They've ignored that cry for too long to start listening now all of a sudden.

[schild]

They've positioned CoV as an expansion the entire time of release. Don't try to sell me it as a new, entirely separate game.

Like a year ago they said it would be a seperate thing. It was a Statesman interview with an inconsequential website. Like IGN or UGO or something.

[Llava]

Or he said that's how he was hoping it would be.

And he also said that he wanted one subscription to pay for both.

At a guess, and this is just a guess, it'll probably be a couple bucks extra for a subscription to both compared to a subscription to one.  $15 a month for one, maybe $17-$20 for two.  But kudos to them if it stays $15.

[HaemishM]

I won't pay an extra subscription for CoV. That'll be the only thing that will sour my good will with that dev team.

[schild]

High Time they came up with a station access type situation for $22.

[Furiously]

Auto Assult, COH, COV, guild wars expansions, linage II. Yea - that would be a good $22 a month for me.

[schild]

Ya know, I might even play lineage II. I mean I'm playing Everquest II. Wait. No. Even Haem will confirm that EQII is godsend compared to Lineage. Ignore me. My brain it does not work.

[Llava]

Edited cause I misread.

I would doubt that Guild Wars expansions would be included in such a package.  Possible, though.

[Dren]

I've never played and never planned to play L2, but if it was included in that fictional station pass, I'd give it a shot once in awhile.  There is enough interest in the other products that I'd bite on that deal too.  That is even without the Guildwars expansions because I don't believe that would be included.  That business model is too dependant on expansion boxes.

Even if I didn't play any of the games nonstop, it would be nice to be able to bounce around amongst them for around $22/mo.

[HaemishM]

Sure, I'd pay around $20 for all the NCSoft sub games PLUS a discount on Guild Wars expansions that I directly downloaded.

But another sub just for CoV? No, not happening.

[schild]

PLUS a discount on Guild Wars expansions that I directly downloaded.

That's crazytalk. It's ok, unleash the Lineage 2 Hate. That's what you were really saying.

"Sure, I'd pay around $20 for all the NCSoft sub games MINUS Lineage II PLUS a discount on the Guildwars expansions that I directly download."

Rite?

[HaemishM]

I might try Lineage 2 again, if I didn't have to pay for the box, it was already included in my multi-sub price...






And I was really drunk and pr0n was removed from the Internet and my TV had exploded and all my books had spontaneously caught on fire.

[schild]

I'm quite certain that can be arranged. Or at least the fun bits of that last sentence can be...

[MrHat]

I'm quite certain that can be arranged. Or at least the fun bits of that last sentence can be...

There's a place on the internet with no porn?



What a sad sad place that must be.

[stray]

That taskforce last night pretty much killed whatever curiousity and interest I had left.

I think I'll just go back to "Fuck Cryptic" mode for now.

[Alkiera]

That taskforce last night pretty much killed whatever curiousity and interest I had left.

I think I'll just go back to "Fuck Cryptic" mode for now.

Way to find the least fun thing to do in the entire game, and then complain about how the experience sucked.  From the other thread... it was even the Positron TF, well known to be the longest, least interesting of the many TFs Cryptic's written.

And here I thought Haemish was our resident glutton for punishment.

Alkiera

[stray]

That taskforce last night pretty much killed whatever curiousity and interest I had left.

I think I'll just go back to "Fuck Cryptic" mode for now.

Way to find the least fun thing to do in the entire game, and then complain about how the experience sucked.  From the other thread... it was even the Positron TF, well known to be the longest, least interesting of the many TFs Cryptic's written.

And here I thought Haemish was our resident glutton for punishment.

Alkiera

That's not the point. It's about deducing just how warped these dudes really are. I can't really trust a dev team who make something like that. Not only was it boring, but I killed mobs in at least 10 back-to-back missions for 5 hours straight: Blue, White, Yellow, Orange, and Red. And in their thinking, they thought it'd make sense that I shouldn't get any experience points from it.

I have plenty to bitch about, but that's just the last straw. I knew the grind was bad, but any game that even allows me to catass for 5 hours without reward or effect is the worst of all. Even Daoc or EQ would at the very least given me a pair of shitty boots and some xp....Or something. But nothing? That's retarded.

[HaemishM]

Isn't exemplaring down able to burn off XP debt?

[stray]

Isn't exemplaring down able to burn off XP debt?

I might have tolerated it if that was the case. So I tested it earlier and killed myself.

I'm in debt.

Despite ghost-catassing 3 lvls.

[edit] I could have sworn that debt burn off points can still be reserved when you're not in debt, but still exemplared. Could be wrong though....Either way, it was a pointless waste of time. It was worst than catassing.

[Llava]

Exemplaring burns debt, all the experience you would gain for killing a mob of equal con to you goes towards burning the debt.  (So you're a level 29 character, and you kill a white minion and it's worth 500 experience.  Exemplar down to level 16, kill a level 16 minion and you'll burn 500 debt.)

If you have no debt, the experience is converted to influence on a 1 for 1 basis.  So in the above example, you'd get 500 influence on top of what you'd normally get (which is determined the same as the experience award).

[stray]

Ah, so it's influence then. Well, at the end of that, I ended up gaining a little over 20,000. Which, at first look, put a smile on my face...Until I realized it was only worth about 4 DO's.

EDIT: For the value that I would consider what 5 hours is worth to me, I think IGE would give me more :D

[MrHat]

So wait, there's items in this one?