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August 02, 2025, 12:48:50 PM

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You can get it on FilePlanet and 3D Gamers.

Looks like it's the same thing as the beta that was out a couple of months ago. They just re-released it for everyone now.

Here's a tip for all Dungeon Siege players: single player with henchmen is not the best way to enjoy this game. Most of the complaints about DS1 came from those who played the single player campaign with five henchmen in autopilot. Which we all agree was boring.

DS1 co-op through the single player campaign (two people, no henchmen) was a total blast. It's a lot more fun when you have to, you know, play the game yourself instead of having NPC bots do the killing for you.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to playing Dungeon Siege II in a couple weeks. Co-op, of course!

If the rest of your party is composed of pack mules, that solves your problem.

Alright, I tried the beta and hated it. Didn't make it 10 minutes. This version I played to completion last night. Probably 3 hours of gameplay or so. I played a half giant warrior, and my henchmen for most of it was.... a half giant warrior.

Anyhow, let's see.

They have skill trees now. For instance, as you melee you'll progress in levels in melee. At some other interval, you'll gain skill points. It doesn't coincide with melee levels though, like if you're melee 4 it doesnt mean you spent 4 points in the melee tree. The first tier of the melee/ranged/nature/combat trees requires lvl1. There are 2 skills. For HGs, the melee skills are one that increases max health and another that increases crit chance. The next tier comes at level 5, and the melee ones is a block skill that lets you use better shields, a 2h skill that lets you use any 2h weapon, and the 3rd one is dual wield. Putting points in these increases the damage you block or the damage you do.

Then there are special skills. When you get level 1 in a skill, you get the first special skill. The melee one is an attack that increases damage by like 2,000% for one hit. The one for dual wield is a flurry attack that hits everything in front of you, in a cone, for like 5 attacks. The 2h one is a ground pounding attack that hits everything real hard and stuns those that are still alive.

Items are the same. Pretty diablo-ish stuff. They even added item sets. I got 3 out of 4 in one set on my guy through just doing various stuff. Going through a waterfall lead to some ghost dude who I couldn't talk to and a chest that held the best piece of the set. Etc, etc.

magic.. pretty much the same.

The hotkeys though, are a bit different. (I never played DS1 single player, so maybe the hotkeys work differently in multi) F1-F2 switches your active character. You or your henchman. 1-8 uses special skills. For me, if I hit 1 my character would do his melee flurry. If I hit 2, my henchman would do his ground pounder thing. Then there are the F7-F11 keys. If you hit CTRL F7 it saves the loadout that you and your henchman has. If you've got your weap equipped, and you're doing skill 2, and your henchman has uhh combat magic loaded, and skill 1, if you hit CTRL F7 it'll save that. So you could set F8 as you doing nature magic/skill4 henchman doing melee/skill1, etc etc etc. Only gripe here is that I couldn't figure out how to hotkey using a ranged weapon. Loading up the inv screen, removing one dual wielded weapon then equipping a bow isn't the best way to do it.

Also you can rebind stuff, so i'm sure you can make it work somehow. Then, again I'm not sure if this was in DS1, but you can set some skills on auto-cast. I had a heal spell set as auto cast on both chars. So if i was sitting still, and someone was injured, one of my chars would auto-heal that guy. Worked out pretty well, even to the point that I could kite some of the hard stuff, without switching to manually cast heal on myself.

Henchmen - towards the end of the demo you get to visit the Pet stable where you can buy a few things. I picked up a SCORPION who I named an_scorpion. He had like ranged level 8 or something, and was a good replacement for my fellow HG warrior. You feed the pets items (just literally drop it on a spot in their char screen) to make them 'grow'. Mine never left the baby stage, but I was feeing him some rares and shit and he was making good progress. Guess as they grow they get special skills like the humanoids do.

Anyhow, the verdict as of now is that it's got a bit more complexity than the first one, which I think is needed. It's still a Diablo clone, and it's still not THAT bad. It's just not that good, either.

I'll probably bargain bin it in a few months.

I loved the first game, and the expansion. The multiplayer world was awesome in that game. There were hidden passages and shortcuts everywhere and always more than 1 road to every city, love it when you're not going on rails.

I liked the first one. 25 hours from start to finish. Game over.

Hint: MMO's need pack mules.

Quote from: Krakrok on August 04, 2005, 11:31:11 AM

Hint: MMO's need pack mules.

UO?

... and that can't be grief killed. ;)

Ahhh, memories. I did look quite pimp in the antler hat.

I never had a pack animal in UO because it was an obvious PK magnet. Like playing hop scotch in a ghetto with a wad of 100s in your hand.

Quote from: Krakrok on August 04, 2005, 11:31:11 AM

I liked the first one. 25 hours from start to finish. Game over.

Hint: MMO's need pack mules.

Second account + /follow

I was pretty hardcore PK/PVP in my UO days, but I always left the horse/pack animal alive. That just felt like being to much of a dick.

Had I played UO back in the day instead of AC and had run into WUA, that pack mule would have found a new home.

I played the FP demo earlier. I was amazed at the low poly count. It looked just the same as 1.

Quote from: ahoythematey on August 04, 2005, 08:05:06 PM

Had I played UO back in the day instead of AC and had run into WUA, that pack mule would have found a new home.

It took me a minute to recognize your name and remember why you would possibly bring my name up in a thread I hadn't bothered with until now. Are you still sore about the time I told you to shut the fuck up and learn to read?

Good. Douchebag.

1.4 GB for a demo? WTF?

Quote from: WindupAtheist on August 05, 2005, 08:48:18 PM

Quote from: ahoythematey on August 04, 2005, 08:05:06 PM

Had I played UO back in the day instead of AC and had run into WUA, that pack mule would have found a new home.

I just like poking fun at those who think they are some kind of Haemishe. Go back to swearing school and get some better material.

Thus concludes today's round of poke-the-crazy.

We need more topical threads.

So, can anyone like, confirm that it's Diablo 2 with better graphics? Oplzoplz?

- meg

Sounds like it sucks just as hard as DS1 did.

Which was quite hard.

I played it a little. It's ok, nothing to write home about. I became bored pretty fast, but then, I was just playing single. I'm sure the multiplayer is rather more fun, but it's likely to be just as fun as the group you're with. I would play a bit further, as I only spent about 15 minutes, but I have to... umm... clean my... err... rabbit. That's it. I have to clean my rabbit! Woot!

Why for is it that I, who have spent, oh, 500+ hours on single player Diablo 2, just can't stand Dungeon Seige? I loves the Chris Taylor for making Total Annihilation, but... damn, where's the fun?

I don't know. I liked D2, too. DS has all the right stuff but I think it's just bland or something. You would think that it would be just as entertaining, but it's not. Of course, I didn't spend the amount of time you did on D2... I don't think I've ever spent that amount of time on anything. But I know what you mean.

It's because the levelling in Dungeon Seige was totally automatic and the powers/spells/items sucked.

I gave up when I got the mini-gun. You could put it on a Mage for ten minutes and he became a 500lvl archer. Stupid.

Worry not, a review is forthcoming.

I enjoyed DS in a hack and slash kind of way.

New game idea: we'll make a pretty world that screenshots well, add some fantasy flavor, and give our hero a melee weapon wherewith to hit stuff. Where can we go wrong? Did we mention you get better at hitting stuff as the game progresses?

Did we mention you hit stuff?

Dragons!

Hellooooo?

DS could have used some diversity in items and skills. Mostly skills. More dungeons would have been good, but the multiplayer map was pretty huge already. I liked it.

Well, one of the reasons i liked Dungeon Siege over D2 was because D2 had made a travesty of the goodness that had been Diablo =/

DS in my view was basically a better version of Diablo (albeit minus the cool random dungeons). Consequently, seeing as they ripped all the best parts of Diablo for DS, i'm hoping they took the good bits from D2 and stuck them into the second Dungeon Siege.

Oh, and miniguns. And poke`fire-elementals.

- meg

Quote from: Megrim on August 10, 2005, 06:02:04 AM

The bell-curve in action folks.

Not statistically significant.