Shadowbane - Almost free!

[Samwise]

Of course, the original Holy Grail quest didn't turn out so well, either.

Or so they want you to believe.
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[Teleku]

The only way I can really think of to get around the problem of ninja raiding of cities in open PvP games is to impose time limits for PvP.  As in, PvP is turned off at 12 AM, and turns back on again at 9 AM (or something).  Ragnarok Online does something similar to this with their PvP, having guilds fight over castles for a few hours twice a week.  This sucks because first, it would force regional grouping, meaning its going to shorten hours for somebody on the west coast trying to play on an east coast timed server.  Second, it would force continental grouping, so you couldn't play with friends from Europe/Australia.  Blizzard does this already really, but it wasn't liked when it happened.  Despite this though, I think having some sort of time limit is the only real way to get around the issue.

Biggest problem is trying to figure out the best times to turn it on and off for the day.

[Threash]

SB already solved that problem a long time ago.  You can only lose assets during sieges, siege times are set by defenders.  It was this way since before i quit, before WoW came out, you can't even knock down a cities wall before siege time.

[ahoythematey]

Darkfall's premise of making cities permanent structures capable of being conquered and captured would help reduce the feelings of unwarranted loss while avoiding a "time limit" structure of city sieges, as well as leaving the defeated something tangible to try and racapture.  Too bad the game is vaporware.

[Roac]

Darkfall

Fetuspult.

[ahoythematey]

Too bad the game is vaporware.

[squirrel]

I resubbed to SB and bought the latest expac online just to check it out - i was cheap (9.99 i think?)

Anyway - started on wrath, rolled up an old school Irekei dagger scout and got to about level 18. In the short time that took i experienced at least a dozen annoying bugs (including getting stuck in the exact same geometry that i got stuck in 18 months ago or more) and saw enough exploits (you can still backstab with a bow) that i decided the game, however much potential, is not even relegated to niche. it's just horribly broken.

Which is really too bad, they had excellent ideas, great lore and race/classes, balanced (well, sort of) pvp...but it's all so fucking broken there's no point.

[Arnold]

The only way I can really think of to get around the problem of ninja raiding of cities in open PvP games is to impose time limits for PvP.  As in, PvP is turned off at 12 AM, and turns back on again at 9 AM (or something).  Ragnarok Online does something similar to this with their PvP, having guilds fight over castles for a few hours twice a week.  This sucks because first, it would force regional grouping, meaning its going to shorten hours for somebody on the west coast trying to play on an east coast timed server.  Second, it would force continental grouping, so you couldn't play with friends from Europe/Australia.  Blizzard does this already really, but it wasn't liked when it happened.  Despite this though, I think having some sort of time limit is the only real way to get around the issue.

Biggest problem is trying to figure out the best times to turn it on and off for the day.

My idea was that they (actually, I had this idea for UO factions) should have a "primetime" for the server, based on location, that would encourage people in those locations to play those servers.  The primetime would be like TV - three to four hours in the evening, local time, and sieges could only start place in that window.  Even if all the servers were located in the same place, they could designate different ones as being for different regions.

[squirrel]

Darkfall

Fetuspult.

Hey now - there's a company at steak!!1!

[HaemishM]

[AOFanboi]

Goddamnit. It took me many minutes of looking that over to see what exactly was wrong with that statement. Comedy ruined by grammar once again.

It sordid.

[HaemishM]

your rite.

[Murgos]

Goddamnit. It took me many minutes of looking that over to see what exactly was wrong with that statement. Comedy ruined by grammar once again.

It sordid.

I had just assumed you were using teh intentional funney.  Thats why I mentioned 'Cross Thread Humor" in my review of your verbal aneurysm.  I'm going to have to deduct a point if that was an actual Faux Pas.  Of course that means you gain two for 'unintentional humor' (one for making the error and one because it was being ridiculed simultainiously in another thread).

[Nija]

My fondest memory of SB was about this time of year in it's year-long beta. I was in one of the various renamings of the rolling 30s guild, and we were 'marching' some trebs to flatten some town. We passed by the area a town stood about 3 or 4 weeks prior, which got demolished, and there were still some ruins.

At the time, I remember thinking how CLOSE this was to greatness, yet how far away it really was.

[cevik]

I thought Cevik was cool...But maybe a little on the depressing side of things. Did anyone here know him personally? Those weird rants of his about getting drunk, swallowing some pills, and "ending it all" were sort of funny at the time.....But now I wonder.

Hate to bump a dead thread.. especially just to be egotistical.. and for the record, I did indeed search for my name when I found this (pathetic!).. but none the less, I thought I might drop by and say I am indeed still alive (not that it's actually relevant enough to bump this, but humor me)..

I decided between the booze, the pills, and the MMOGs, my liver couldn't take much more.. so I choose the booze and the pills over the mmogs.. it was a wise choice.. (actually, my son started talking and I realized that was much more entertaining than MMOGs ever could be, so I started hanging out with him more and decided disapearing myself would be the easiest "way out")..

And for the record, Shadowbane was indeed the best AND the worst MMOG ever made.. just more proof that God hates MMOG players..

[Ironwood]

Hooray !!  Cevik !

[Fargull]

And for the record, Shadowbane was indeed the best AND the worst MMOG ever made.. just more proof that God hates MMOG players..

I completely agree with this statement.  Welcome back, your the bastard whose posts got me to buy Shadowbane originally.

I loved the character/combat system, hated the useless bane warring, and it had the bloody worst PvE.  But damn the rest was nice.

[Soukyan]

Hey Cevik! Glad to see you're still alive and well, and glad to hear about your son starting to talk. Be well and enjoy life! 

[Signe]

See?  I knew he was doing the happy family thing.

Shit.  Another dead pool ruined.

I'm happy and angry.

[WayAbvPar]

Good to see ya, Cevik! You still a Winterhawks fan? I am trying to remember who won the division last season; can you help me?

[Pococurante]

Boog.  Tierlap.  Now Cevik.

And where Cevik posts DV can't be far behind.

The end times, they are here.

[Merusk]

Boog.  Tierlap.  Now Cevik.

And where Cevik posts DV can't be far behind.

The end times, they are here.

DV? He was banned here most gloriously. He still posts at Corp fairly regularly.

Edit: Oh yeah, and grats on not being dead and stuff, Cevik. Now I can bet on you pulingl a G-bob and dissapear again after your return.  :-D

[Signe]

Cevik is the anti-DV.  Thank god.  It's why I love his little hippy soul.

[Hoax]

I often find myself wondering what the player base that remains in SB are like nowadays I mean thats like hardcore^7 right?

[Murgos]

Wait, DV?  DeVoca?

[HaemishM]

I often find myself wondering what the player base that remains in SB are like nowadays I mean thats like hardcore^7 right?

In the real world, we put them in asylums.

Welcome back or happy life or some such, cevik. You have been missed (and probably will be again, what with the family and all). I'd imagine the son gives you more stimulating conversation in 10 minutes than an entire year's worth of WoW general chat.

And DV is for Dark Vengeance.

[Righ]

Hi there Cevik! Glad IRL > f13.

As to who is playing SB? If you're a HD alumni, Jory came back from WWIII and plays, Verrul is still there, quite a few of the 2nd generation, and Manalo is still GL. At least that's how it was a few weeks ago when I was last able to find the interactive guild map.

[Triforcer]

All we need now is Geld, Bruce, and Blair, and I think we could create some sort of event horizon of flame.

[Merusk]

All we need now is Geld, Bruce, and Blair, and I think we could create some sort of event horizon of flame.

Blair. Ha there's a name I haven't thought of in years.

If you're going for that kind of flame, what about including Coke?

[Pococurante]

If you're going for that kind of flame, what about including Coke?

[cevik]

It's why I love his little hippy soul.

Sadly, I've moved from Portland Oregon to Tulsa Oklahoma, and taken a job at a major Oil and Gas Company..  Last week I had to drive to one of our customer sites in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma (to tour the site to get Use Cases for our new product I'm designing).. the customer was Halliburton.. I even restrained myself and didn't yell "YOU ARE THE DEVIL" at any of the employees, though I must admit it was difficult..

So, while I still consider myself to be a hippy, it would be difficult for me to make the argument that I have not sold out to The Man (TM)..

[HaemishM]

Wait, you work for Oil and Gas, one of your clients is Haliburton AND you live in Okie again?

Fuck, you should be stippling dotted lines on your wrists with majic markers daily.

[schild]

I miss Cevik because he didn't say bye. 

Edit: But then, neither did Joe, but we all know where to find him...

[cevik]

I miss Cevik because he didn't say bye. 

That's because ignoring responsibility is a fucking lot easier than dealing with it.. sorry 'bout that! ;)

[schild]

I miss Cevik because he didn't say bye. 

That's because ignoring responsibility is a fucking lot easier than dealing with it.. sorry 'bout that! ;)

K, yo comprendo. Come back.