Shadowbane - Almost free!

[Hoax]

Well it looks like we're finally getting a storyline server...

http://chronicle.ubi.com/loreplay.php

Word on the street is there might be a some guilds forming around the intraweb and/or going back just to give this a shot.

[stray]

I'm hopping on once it goes live. Just to see at least.

Probably doesn't matter if I don't have a guild or anyone to play with, I suppose. I'm sure people will be desperate to invite what they can....

Which brings me to another thing: Just changing to lore rules isn't going to be enough, I think. The game should have come out this way, and in turn, balanced accordingly. It's been balanced with ARAC in mind though, which is going to screw things up.

Take the Cleansing Flame or Ranger Guilds, for example (Templars and Confessors/Druid and Rangers). They're probably the most exclusive of all guild types, and while Confessors and Templars rock in ARAC, it would seem that on their own, they're going to have a tough time. Druids and Rangers will be even more screwed.

High Court Elves -- Many classes, no hp

Irekei are in slightly better shape

Noble House (Human) and Dwarves will probably rock

[stray]

On a related note: It's a shame that SB never had at least moderate success, because then Meridian might have had an opportunity to publish a series a books. In my opinion, it's the best lore in an MMOG to date. Not only is it a shame because of that, it's damn shame that it was barely utilized in the game itself, PVE or PVP.

[Dren]

I'm in too.  I resubbed and getting ready on test center.  I'm two expansions and multiple years behind now.

I'm joining a guild that is starting up just for this new lore system server.  Should be fun for a couple months anyway.

[HaemishM]

Shadowbane was proven to be un-lore-friendly in beta by the Burning Legion twats playing an all-Shade guild. I fail to see why they want to release a server that highlights that failure on a daily basis.

[Mortriden]

Ebonlore couldn't kill the fun.

Fuck those fucking fuckers.  That whole bullshit damn near sends me into Ham-esque cursing fits.

[Shockeye]

Ewle posts over at Corp sometimes. He's a very large mangina.

[stray]

Some people get too much attention.

[Calantus]

I would go try it out, but I hear the PvE is the most boring grind-fest ever. If I'm gonna play a PvP game the PvE had better be either short, or interesting. Or both if the devs are feeling frisky. I refuse to join an outdated flop of a game just so I can afk macro my toon up before I can have fun.

Fin.

[MrHat]

I would go try it out, but I hear the PvE is the most boring grind-fest ever. If I'm gonna play a PvP game the PvE had better be either short, or interesting. Or both if the devs are feeling frisky. I refuse to join an outdated flop of a game just so I can afk macro my toon up before I can have fun.

Fin.

It's pretty short.

Oh, and I was in Ebonlore, and that guy is a huge magina.

Edit: Had more fun solo with a shade thief at L40 than almost all other games.

[stray]

Yeah, it's pretty short (though I haven't played since the cap's been raised).

1-55 (55 being the practical limit at launch) would take me a week of "almost" catass power leveling. Casual play would you get you ranked within 2 to 2 1/2 weeks. I have a whole slew of ranked characters because of this.

Yeah, the PvE sucked, but it had the best lvling pace in any mmo I've played to date.

The cap now is 75 (but most classes don't really need to lvl past 70, I think), and supposedly that'll take 3 to 4 weeks (casually, that is). That's still half of what WoW is (and people call that fast). I can't say much about the new content, since I haven't played it. Gold is much easier to become by than in the old days as well.

I will say though, that without a dependable guild by 35 or 40, you won't be seeing that pace. Grouping is definitely required (for beating mobs, as well as having people along with you in cased you get ambushed).

On the plus side, PvP wise, lvl differences aren't always going to determine a win. You could be 6 or 7 lvls behind someone, and still have a chance. Sometimes even 10.

[Calantus]

I meant short as in, maxed out in 2 days /played... solo. If it was just coming out I'd forgive a longer grind, but I see coming to an old game as kind of a favour to the developers. Therefore my expectations are much higher than otherwise.

[stray]

I meant short as in, maxed out in 2 days /played... solo. If it was just coming out I'd forgive a longer grind, but I see coming to an old game as kind of a favour to the developers. Therefore my expectations are much higher than otherwise.

Oh yeah, that'd be nice (besides the solo part). People have been begging for two things forever now:

Test Server paced lvling (about 2 or 3 days).....That still includes required grouping though.....Seriously man, not having a group will net you jack and shit, even if the PvE allowed it. You don't want to be solo in SB unless 1) You already maxed out and plan on being a lone ganker or theif and 2) you prefer to be bored out of your mind. "Other people" is what makes the lvling process tolerable. Soloing copy & paste zones will make you quit, no matter how fast it was.

The game seems to be geared towards socializers and killers. I don't mind that, but it'd be nice if there was room for exploration in there (achievers can still fuck off as far as I care).

[edit] I just deleted something that I don't remember typing. Did someone edit this post? 

[Calantus]

Yeah, my solo point was more that I could be unguilded in the early game and not be SoL, not that I didn't have to group. It just didn't come out right. I've heard about big macro-powerleveling groups being the best way to level and was basically saying the time shouldn't be based on any bullcrap workaround.

[Shockeye]

PVE was nice and short in Druid macro groups.

[Shockeye]

The following is was implemented in the August Content Patch:

Working Inns - Players are now able to pay an innkeeper and log out and back in at that location.

How many years late is this?

[Calantus]

Number 2 made me giggle too.

[stray]

I resubbed so I could get a feel for the game before the lore server came out. I thought I'd feel only slightly newbish after not having played for so long, but there's been so many changes that it seems like a different game (not sure if sb.exe remains or not). I couldn't even count them all (most have to do with classes, guilds, and pvp, so don't expect a deep quest system or somethin'). Even the interface is a little different.


I have no idea what I'm doing here (and not just in one sense).

To their credit, the snow did not lag me out.

I'll see what happens. So far, it's....Kind of fun.

[Signe]

You look lonely.

[stray]

You look lonely.

There was a mino running around somewhere...He's just hiding there.

I'm barely off the newb section atm (that's the starting town in that screen), but there's actually people playing. The Wrath server shows up as "Normal Population". The others are "Land Rush" (i.e. Underpopulated).

[schild]

MMOGs are like old people who have lived past their time. If they don't die soon they'd rip a hole in the space time continuum or some shit.

That's my backasswards way of saying that a company should make an MMOG based on two years of story and content and at the end of the 2 years they either pop the whole thing are reorganize in a zelda second quest sort of way. Because really - resubbing to games never works. At least not for me.

[stray]

MMOGs are like old people who have lived past their time. If they don't die soon they'd rip a hole in the space time continuum or some shit.

That's my backasswards way of saying that a company should make an MMOG based on two years of story and content and at the end of the 2 years they either pop the whole thing are reorganize in a zelda second quest sort of way. Because really - resubbing to games never works. At least not for me.

Heh...If you only knew, you'd probably get all WUA-ish on me.

In this case though, I have to give it to try because, like I said, it's almost a different game now (and will be even more once Vindication comes out........Yeah, that's the name of the lore server). Also, Shadowbane is only game that I've ever been subscribed to for at least a year straight. I owe it at least one resub.

[schild]

I know you resub to games all the time. You have a terrible case of restlessness. Which is ok, I guess. I play anywhere between 10 and 30 console games at the same time and maybe one or two of them ever get beat. I will finish Radiata stories though. This fall has a lot of stuff I want to beat actually. Go go holiday season.

[stray]

You know what my problem really is?

No people.

I could probably stick with almost any of these games if I had a dependable group of friends to play with. Even the best of games aren't very fun without that.

SB was the last time that really happened. Ever since, I've just been floating around, experimenting (and wasting money). I tried WoW with a couple people I knew, I guess, but that fell apart pretty quickly. And if I could have convinced one or two of them to play CoH, then I probably would have been doing that exclusively.

[Signe]

CoH is the only game I've resubbed to that's actually worked out... I'm still playing.  I enjoy having it around, although I can also ignore it for a time and don't feel as if I've missed anything.  I never subbed to EQ2 and while it's ok these days, I've not logged in for about a week. It doesn't motivate me much.  I'm not sure what my intentions are towards it, actually. 

[sinij]

Shadowbane was proven to be un-lore-friendly in beta by the Burning Legion twats playing an all-Shade guild. I fail to see why they want to release a server that highlights that failure on a daily basis.

I still play SB and watch this lore-server trainwreck almost on a daily basis. Everyone seems to have very high hopes for it, they expect lore server to end zerging, promote small scale conflict, roleplaying and all other sorts of good things. Biggest problem I see with lore is that restrictions will be easily circumvented by power guilds and rest of the guilds are stuck with charters that are too restrictive to deal with multi-charter multi-guild nation. I don’t see how SB developers fail to realize that you can’t code out player’s intent – if they don’t want to play by the (lore) rules they won’t.

On top of that there isn't enough population on regular servers, everyone want to take part in landrush of the new server with playable population. So lore server is effectivly is the last server, when it fails that will be the end of SB.

[WayAbvPar]

Wow, that screen shot made me all nostalgic. I miss HD! /sniff

[Shockeye]

multi-charter multi-guild nation

As I understand it, you can only have sub-guilds that are the same charter has the main guild so I don't see how you can have multi-charter nations anymore.

The biggest problem I see with the lore server is the charters themselves being so unbalanced.

Irekei 4tehwin.

[stray]

Irekei 4tehwin.

I could be wrong, but at first glance, Humans look like the new Irekei's. Noble House 4tehwin.

Regardless, I'll be playing a Centuar Barb.

[MrHat]

Irekei 4tehwin.

I could be wrong, but at first glance, Humans look like the new Irekei's. Noble House 4tehwin.

Regardless, I'll be playing a Centuar Barb.

Double throwing hammers ftw.

[Shockeye]

I was going to spend money on getting into 9th edition MT:O, but right now I'm leaning towards SB. I'm so fickle.

[Evangolis]

t – if they don’t want to play by the (lore) rules they won’t.

When I played Wrath, there was a pretty strong push to avoid the early Apocalypse by avoiding meta-alliances.  Most players will want to play by the Lore rules, and there have been changes that would allow, for example, an all shade guild to work.  Of course, to keep the line, you need to trust your enemies to play fair, and you need to trust the software to be reliable.  The first might be possible, the latter is likely foolish, barring a whole new codebase, IMO.

[stray]

I was going to spend money on getting into 9th edition MT:O, but right now I'm leaning towards SB. I'm so fickle.

I could give you a referral that would let you purchase Throne of Oblivion for $10 off at the Ubi store (Regularly, it's $14.99 heh).

You can upgrade a 25 day trial account with that.

[Signe]

Gimped Prelate with a duck hat 4tehwin?

[Strazos]

I was going to spend money on getting into 9th edition MT:O, but right now I'm leaning towards SB. I'm so fickle.

At least you know MtG isn't going to turn into a trainwreck.

9th is actually very nice so far. I just joined a league, and don't feel like I have a gimped card pool.