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Reply #70 on: June 24, 2005, 11:52:47 AM

Justice (Fairness) 95%
Kantianism 80%
Hedonism 75%
Existentialism 70%
Utilitarianism 65%
Strong Egoism 45%
Nihilism 40%
Apathy 35%
Divine Command 0%

I perfer to call my actual faith "Astilleroism." The main tenets of it call for people to just be fucking nice, decent human beings. In theory, everything else in life should work out as it should.

EDIT: These scores don't suprise me in the least. I believe people get what they deserve (or that they should). I've also studied Kant a tad, and generally agree in principle with his outlook of having to prove stuff. This is one reason why "religion" just doesn't work for me. I'll live my life as I see fit, not by someone else's made-up rules, kthx.

My hedonism score is a bit skewed, due to my chronic "single" status.  undecided

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Reply #71 on: June 24, 2005, 12:22:53 PM

You guys do know that Kant was a Christian as well, right? And if you've read him, you'll know that he had his "reasons".
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Reply #72 on: June 24, 2005, 12:23:33 PM

You scored as Justice (Fairness). 


Justice (Fairness) 90%
Hedonism 75%
Existentialism 75%
Strong Egoism 70%
Utilitarianism 30%
Apathy  30%
Nihilism  25%
Kantianism  20%
Divine Command 0%

Makes sense, although my hedonism doesn't include drug use.

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Reply #73 on: June 24, 2005, 12:37:30 PM

Also, unsurprising that so many people here are self-serving.  IMO, everyone who rated high on either strong egoism or heidonism should be forbidden from being able to bitch about "money grubbing publishers" or such here ever again.  But that's just the rational me hating hypocracy and stupid statements.

One might argue that the "hedonism" or "egoism" displayed by such publishers is of a shallow variety, thinking in the short-term rather than the long term.  Just because one believes in these things doesn't make them a slave to whimsy and greed.

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Reply #74 on: June 24, 2005, 12:44:00 PM

The fact that so many of us value our time so little that we play games most of the time is reason enough for the preponderance of Hedonists... ;-)  But it's ok since as we're also mostly existentialists we create meaning in our life through Hedonism.  Woot!
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Reply #75 on: June 24, 2005, 12:52:23 PM

Also, unsurprising that so many people here are self-serving.  IMO, everyone who rated high on either strong egoism or heidonism should be forbidden from being able to bitch about "money grubbing publishers" or such here ever again.  But that's just the rational me hating hypocracy and stupid statements.

One might argue that the "hedonism" or "egoism" displayed by such publishers is of a shallow variety, thinking in the short-term rather than the long term.  Just because one believes in these things doesn't make them a slave to whimsy and greed.

(Lost my results,  but Strong egoism came out ahead.  Nothing else got over 50%)

"Strong egoism" is really a catchall category.  It's pretty easy to run up a few percentage points on it.  In direct contradiction to "Divine Command" where you really are going to hit a high percentage or not at all.

"Strong egoism" will catch the self-absorbed,  but also anyone that believes in rational self-interest and most flavors of hard right/hard left Libertarianism or it's variants.  And probably anyone that has a degree in economics.

I'd prefer a FA Hayek or James Buchanan quote, as well.
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Reply #76 on: June 24, 2005, 01:01:29 PM

I missed where he summed-up Kantianism as rationalism...because that would be rationalism then, yes?

That's why I provided a link, where he states: Your life is guided by the ethical model of Kantianism: You seek to have consistent laws rule your actions, and your will is directed by reason. This viewpoint is reflected in the questions that he grades as Kantian which attempt to focus rationalism on ethics - which is a good bit of what Kant is known for.  Probably not what the quiz author intended, but either way, it's on these grounds that my answers lined up with Kant.

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Part of what struck me when I looked-up and read the Kantaism summation on wiki was that Kantists believe there is no way to prove or disprove the exsistence of a divine spiritual being. Rings true for me, but considering your whole paragraph about there being enough 'soft science' to prove the exsistence of one sticks you firmly in Divine Command, I'd think.

For a spiritual being - ANY spiritual being whether God or otherwise - it's not only impossible to prove the existance of them, but that they are entirely unknowable, since they are normally defined (as is true with God) to be outside the physical universe.  At least, they are unkonwable unless they somehow interact with that universe, at which point there can be some discussion.  Kant says something similar on noumenon and phenomenan and their interractions.

btw, soft science is a real word, not some expression used as a cop-out in lieu of a real discussion.  Soft science is science of things such as psychology, sociology, and so forth whereas hard science is chemistry, geology, etc.  Theology and most of the disciplines used to investigate it (various literary methods, archaeology, etc) fit under the soft variety.

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Your desire to have something more than a 'because God says so' rational behind your spiritual believes explains the strong Kantist leaning, but ultimatly you have a firm and unshakable belief in a divinity and his morality.

... no, I really don't have a driving need for an unshakable belief in the divinity, and did just fine for the majority of my life being actively atheistic.  Beyond that, I still disavow any personal "belief" or "faith" as normally defined. 

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Reply #77 on: June 24, 2005, 02:40:05 PM

Existentialist 90%/Hedonist 60% - seems about right to me

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Reply #78 on: June 24, 2005, 04:04:53 PM

You scored as Existentialism.     



Your life is guided by the concept of Existentialism: You choose the meaning and purpose of your life.

“Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does.”
“It is up to you to give [life] a meaning.”
--Jean-Paul Sartre

“It is man's natural sickness to believe that he possesses the Truth.”
--Blaise Pascal



Interesting as Pascal was my favorite programming language back in the day.



Existentialism   100%
Hedonism   90%
Justice (Fairness)   80%
Utilitarianism   65%
Nihilism   55%
Strong Egoism   55%
Apathy   50%
Divine Command   45%
Kantianism   40%



Now everybody grab a Foster's and crack it open...



Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, [some versions have 'Schopenhauer and Hegel']

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.


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Reply #79 on: June 24, 2005, 05:22:27 PM

The only thing that surprises me about the results thus far is the surprisingly bad showing of Nihilism, this site's entire philosophy.

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Reply #80 on: June 24, 2005, 05:45:20 PM

I wouldn't say it's a community of nihilists. More of a group of pissed off (or overly picky) hedonists, which leads into a demeanor of fatalism. Now I'm going to drink.
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Reply #81 on: June 24, 2005, 05:47:10 PM

I wouldn't say it's a community of nihilists. More of a group of pissed off (or overly picky) hedonists, which leads into a demeanor of fatalism. Now I'm going to drink.

I'd join you in that drink if I cared enough.
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Reply #82 on: June 24, 2005, 08:33:58 PM

The only thing that surprises me about the results thus far is the surprisingly bad showing of Nihilism, this site's entire philosophy.
Spinkled with self-rightous pricks.

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Reply #83 on: June 25, 2005, 06:25:02 AM

Existentialism         65%
Justice (Fairness)   50%
Hedonism         40%
Nihilism             30%
Strong Egoism       30%
Apathy                  20%
Utilitarianism            20%
Kantianism         15%
Divine Command    0%

Margalis and i are brothers apparently. Interesting quiz, albeit the numbers are a little meaningless to me; am i 65% in favour of existentialism? As far as i'm concerned it is all fairly relative. I guess that could explain the low scores.

 - meg

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Reply #84 on: June 26, 2005, 09:01:30 PM

Very few things in life are always true or always false, and I tend to dislike it when people vastly overstate things. So for many of the things I mildly agreed or disagree. Should people try to have a little more fun in life. Yes. However that's certainly not something I would froth at the mouth over. Get an extra ice cream sunday once a month.

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Reply #85 on: June 26, 2005, 10:34:15 PM

I've done the Math. It was hard, and took days of number crunching using nothing but bat guano and an abacus. But here are the numbers.

99.004% Atheist, Hedonist, Existentialist Slime.

Paelos, Stray, Kegein, and the Margin of Error.

These numbers are not to scale.

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Reply #86 on: June 27, 2005, 03:32:23 AM

Um.  When I tried it came up with a box that said:

You are :  A Wanker.


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Reply #87 on: June 27, 2005, 10:11:38 AM

Um.  When I tried it came up with a box that said:
You are :  A Wanker.

Redundantly Scot...  wink
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Reply #88 on: June 27, 2005, 10:45:13 AM

The only thing that surprises me about the results thus far is the surprisingly bad showing of Nihilism, this site's entire philosophy.

Nihilism would have to mean we give not a shit. You don't write so many goddamn words about something you give not a shit about.

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Reply #89 on: June 27, 2005, 01:03:41 PM

Hedonism 100%
Existentialism 100%
Justice (Fairness) 95%
Utilitarianism 85%
Kantianism 65%
Divine Command 65%
Apathy 65%
Strong Egoism 60%
Nihilism 20%

I don't understand what this means, but I am pretty sure that the fact I made up my own religion skews the results.  I knew I was in trouble when it gave me a tiebreaker question.

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Reply #90 on: June 27, 2005, 05:37:43 PM

Justice (Fairness)  85%

Strong Egoism  80%

Hedonism  70%

Utilitarianism  55%

Existentialism  45%

Kantianism  45%

Divine Command  40%

Apathy  30%

Nihilism  25%

No real surprises overall....just never realized how much of a hedonist I am on the weekends before ^^

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Reply #91 on: June 28, 2005, 05:19:53 AM

My results should shock no one.

You scored as Divine Command.     

Divine Command   90%

Justice (Fairness) 80%

Hedonism   45%

Existentialism   45%

Kantianism   40%

Utilitarianism   40%

Apathy   35%

Strong Egoism   30%

Nihilism   20%
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Reply #92 on: June 28, 2005, 06:05:15 AM

My results should shock no one.

You scored as Divine Command.     

Divine Command   90%

Justice (Fairness) 80%

Hedonism   45%

Existentialism   45%

Kantianism   40%

Utilitarianism   40%

Apathy   35%

Strong Egoism   30%

Nihilism   20%


Divine Command and no ego!!  Good God!  You are a saint!

Shouldn't you be dead or something?

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Reply #93 on: June 28, 2005, 10:13:17 AM

How is it possible that a Christian is more nihilist (30%) than I (a devout atheist) follow divine command (5%)?

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Reply #94 on: June 28, 2005, 03:43:32 PM

I'd be way more into Divine Command if some God actually gave me a command. But a bunch of humans? Screw them and their 'interpretations', imo.
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Reply #95 on: June 28, 2005, 03:58:19 PM

I'd be way more into Divine Command if some God actually gave me a command. But a bunch of humans? Screw them and their 'interpretations', imo.

Amen!  tongue

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Reply #96 on: June 28, 2005, 04:11:31 PM

It's been a long time since I took this quiz, but I think the 45% "divine command" in my results was entirely a reflection of my own interpretation of the divine, and had almost nothing to do with any concrete religious institution.  I suspect that if all the questions with the word "God" in them had been worded a bit differently (use "my soul" or "my conscience" or "my mojo" instead of "God"), a lot of atheists would have much higher Divine Command scores, since any devout atheist is going to immediately hit "strongly disagree" any time they see the word "God" in any context.
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Reply #97 on: June 28, 2005, 04:35:23 PM

My results should shock no one.

You scored as Divine Command.     

Divine Command   90%

Justice (Fairness) 80%

Hedonism   45%

Existentialism   45%

Kantianism   40%

Utilitarianism   40%

Apathy   35%

Strong Egoism   30%

Nihilism   20%


Divine Command and no ego!!  Good God!  You are a saint!

Shouldn't you be dead or something?

Yes, there are many people who think I should be dead.   wink

When the reason that you do things are because you believe God wants you to do them and/or they are just, right and fair, most people consider that egotistical.  Most people assume that I have an agenda that benefits me personally.  Very few people take my actions at face value or can believe that I am serious.

On the other hand, who else would you want prosecuting child support cases?   :-D
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Reply #98 on: June 28, 2005, 08:37:05 PM

It's been a long time since I took this quiz, but I think the 45% "divine command" in my results was entirely a reflection of my own interpretation of the divine, and had almost nothing to do with any concrete religious institution.  I suspect that if all the questions with the word "God" in them had been worded a bit differently (use "my soul" or "my conscience" or "my mojo" instead of "God"), a lot of atheists would have much higher Divine Command scores, since any devout atheist is going to immediately hit "strongly disagree" any time they see the word "God" in any context.

Are you implying that atheists don't rely on their conscience to make decisions? 'Soul' and 'conscience' aren't necessarily the same thing. There's nothing spiritual or divinely commanded about doing the right thing, for me anyway. Sometimes "because it feels good" or "because it makes that person happy" are enough. FWIW, I interpreted the word "god" in that quiz to mean "universal truth", and I'm quite devout.

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Reply #99 on: June 28, 2005, 08:53:48 PM

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You scored as Utilitarianism. 
 
Your life is guided by the principles of Utilitarianism: You seek the greatest good for the greatest number.

?The said truth is that it is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong.?
--Jeremy Bentham

?Whenever the general disposition of the people is such, that each individual regards those only of his interests which are selfish, and does not dwell on, or concern himself for, his share of the general interest, in such a state of things, good government is impossible.?
--John Stuart Mill

Utilitarianism 65%
Justice (Fairness) 60%
Apathy 60%
Existentialism 50%
Kantianism 45%
Nihilism 45%
Hedonism 35%
Strong Egoism 30%
Divine Command 30%
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Reply #100 on: June 28, 2005, 10:13:31 PM

Existentialism 75%

Hedonism 75%

Nihilism 60%

Strong Egoism 50%

Justice (Fairness) 50%

Apathy 35%

Utilitarianism 30%

Kantianism 20%

Divine Command 0%
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Reply #101 on: June 29, 2005, 06:29:15 AM

Dammit Stray, i was going to use the awp kitty =/

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Reply #102 on: June 29, 2005, 10:04:26 AM

Someone made a comment about guns in another thread.

I like guns....So I figured it was appropriate.  smiley
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Reply #103 on: June 29, 2005, 10:51:29 AM

I suspect that if all the questions with the word "God" in them had been worded a bit differently (use "my soul" or "my conscience" or "my mojo" instead of "God"), a lot of atheists would have much higher Divine Command scores, since any devout atheist is going to immediately hit "strongly disagree" any time they see the word "God" in any context.

Are you implying that atheists don't rely on their conscience to make decisions?

Just the opposite, actually.  I think that most people who identify themselves as atheists recognize something in themselves and/or others (call it what you want - "conscience" is fairly secular and conveys almost the same notion) that I'd classify as "divine".  They just don't refer to it as "God" is all.
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Reply #104 on: June 29, 2005, 11:47:58 AM

Yeah, I just tend to reserve the adjective "divine" for things like white chocolate creme brulee with raspberry coulis, or French onion soup with gooey grouyere.  :-D

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