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Shockeye
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Reply #35 on: June 23, 2005, 02:45:49 PM

It's all an elaborate smoke and mirrors trick to get people to admit that they steal office supplies.
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Reply #36 on: June 23, 2005, 02:49:21 PM

It's an insurance company.  It's already evil by nature. 

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Reply #37 on: June 23, 2005, 02:57:36 PM

Hmm..here I am. I thought I'd score higher on Hedonism, I need to print out a purity test and make it a point to do everything there. I wanna see Schild's results personally.

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You scored as Utilitarianism. 


 
Your life is guided by the principles of Utilitarianism: You seek the greatest good for the greatest number.

“The said truth is that it is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong.”
--Jeremy Bentham

“Whenever the general disposition of the people is such, that each individual regards those only of his interests which are selfish, and does not dwell on, or concern himself for, his share of the general interest, in such a state of things, good government is impossible.”
--John Stuart Mill

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Utilitarianism 85%
Justice (Fairness) 80%
Existentialism 80%
Hedonism 75%
Strong Egoism 55%
Kantianism 35%
Divine Command 25%
Apathy 20%
Nihilism 0%
 
« Last Edit: June 23, 2005, 02:59:21 PM by Riggswolfe »

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Reply #38 on: June 23, 2005, 05:31:43 PM

You scored as Existentialism.     

Your life is guided by the concept of Existentialism: You choose the meaning and purpose of your life.

Existentialism 90%
Kantianism 65%
Hedonism 60%
Utilitarianism 55%
Justice (Fairness) 50%
Strong Egoism 40%
Nihilism 15%
Apathy 10%
Divine Command 0%
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Reply #39 on: June 23, 2005, 06:31:58 PM

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You scored as Divine Command. Your life is directed by Divine Command:  Your god and religion give you meaning and direction.

Divine Command    100%

Justice (Fairness)    65%

Utilitarianism          60%

Existentialism        55%

Kantianism           50%

Strong Egoism     45%

Apathy               45%

Hedonism           40%

Nihilism               30%

Color me shocked, as well.

As a side note, the way the religious questions are stated(which is kinda random, I noted when I sent my spouse the link, the questions were at lesat in a different order, if it was the same list at all), and the nature of religion, the Divine Command results is bound to be at the very top or very bottom of the results... no middle-of-the-road, even for self-titled 'lukewarm' Christians like Paelos.

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Reply #40 on: June 23, 2005, 06:52:37 PM

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You scored as Justice (Fairness). 

Your life is guided by the concept of Fair Justice: Everyone, yourself included, should be rewarded and punished according to the help or harm they cause.

"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done."
--Leonardo da Vinci

“Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace.”
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

Justice (Fairness) 70%
Hedonism 65%
Strong Egoism 50%
Utilitarianism 45%
Existentialism 45%
Nihilism 45%
Apathy 45%
Kantianism 40%
Divine Command 0%

Should I be surprised that I'm very like Shockeye, Nebu, and Joe?

Probably not.

Edit: Also, my scores are eerily accurate as anyone who knows me would confirm.
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Reply #41 on: June 23, 2005, 08:40:27 PM

You know, with me scoring so low on Apathy and Nehilism I wonder why I spend so much time here...

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Reply #42 on: June 23, 2005, 08:42:25 PM

You know, with me scoring so low on Apathy and Nehilism I wonder why I spend so much time here...

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Reply #43 on: June 23, 2005, 10:11:58 PM

You know, with me scoring so low on Apathy and Nehilism I wonder why I spend so much time here...

Happy 1000th post!

Why is it that that seems to be the perfect reply to my post. Lol

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Reply #44 on: June 23, 2005, 10:46:32 PM

Justice (Fairness)   80%

Utilitarianism         75%

Existentialism       70%

Hedonism           50%

Kantianism          50%

Apathy              30%

Strong Egoism    20%

Nihilism              15%

Divine Command   0%


Interesting, I always was a fan of Kants outlook, he rated quite low for that. But at least everybody who calls me an Utilitarian bastard seems to be validated by this score. Divine Command 0% doesn't come as a surprise either. There are few things I hate more than being commanded by anybody.
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Reply #45 on: June 23, 2005, 11:18:01 PM

You know, with me scoring so low on Apathy and Nehilism I wonder why I spend so much time here...
Happy 1000th post!
Why is it that that seems to be the perfect reply to my post. Lol
Duh?
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Reply #46 on: June 24, 2005, 12:49:11 AM

What the hell kind of results are these?

Existentialism 65%
Justice (Fairness) 55%
Utilitarianism 50%
Hedonism 45%
Strong Egoism 40%
Nihilism 35%
Apathy 20%
Kantianism 20%
Divine Command 0%

They probably reflect the fact that I did not strongly disagree or agree with a lot other than the religious stuff. I don't deal too much in absolutes. Religion has no meaning to me and I have low regard for rules and process. If there was a "contrarian" category I would probably get a 95% though.

Someone should post a personality test. Whenever I take those I get high marks for narcicism (only spelled right) and schizotypal whateverthefuck. (Basically anti-social, aloof, contrarian and unfeeling) Which is also about right.

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I'm an apathetic, hedonistic, utilitarian, nihilistic existentialist.


Reply #47 on: June 24, 2005, 02:53:10 AM

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You scored as Existentialism.     

Your life is guided by the concept of Existentialism: You choose the meaning and purpose of your life.

“It is man's natural sickness to believe that he possesses the Truth.”
--Blaise Pascal

I like this quote very much

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Nihilism 70%

Existentialism 70%

Utilitarianism 70%

Hedonism 65%

Apathy 65%

Justice (Fairness) 60%

Kantianism 45%

Strong Egoism 40%

Divine Command 5%

So I'm an apathetic, hedonistic, utilitarian, nihilistic existentialist. Well it is usually very hard for me to decide in favour of something and the numbers pretty much reflect that. Intriguing though, that apathy and hedonism score the same. How can somebody be hedonistic and apathetic at the same time?
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Reply #48 on: June 24, 2005, 02:56:02 AM

How can somebody be hedonistic and apathetic at the same time?

Desire for pleasure, and the actual going out and getting it are two different things maybe?

Perhaps the Nihilist in you is working against it.
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Reply #49 on: June 24, 2005, 04:43:55 AM

I expected more Nihilists.

Existentialism
   80%
Hedonism
   70%
Utilitarianism
   65%
Justice (Fairness)
   50%
Strong Egoism
   40%
Kantianism
   35%
Nihilism
   25%
Apathy
   20%
Divine Command
   0%

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Reply #50 on: June 24, 2005, 05:23:41 AM

Fucking atheist bastards.
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Reply #51 on: June 24, 2005, 07:15:58 AM

You are all a bunch of really fucked up people.

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Reply #52 on: June 24, 2005, 07:33:09 AM

This is really illuminating. No wonder I don't understand where half of you are coming from with your viewpoints, none of you think like me in the least.

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Reply #53 on: June 24, 2005, 07:46:54 AM

My academic and business philosophy, which plays off Machiavelli:

It is better to be remembered, than liked.

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"  HaemishM.
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Reply #54 on: June 24, 2005, 08:20:11 AM

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Divine Command    85%
Kantianism    85%
Existentialism    65%
Justice (Fairness)    65%
Utilitarianism    45%
Hedonism    35%
Strong Egoism    20%
Nihilism    5%
Apathy    0%

[Divine]
“Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations.”
--King James Version of the Bible

“Even as a tree has a single trunk but many branches and leaves, there is one religion--human religion--but any number of faiths.”
--Mahatma Gandhi

[Kaitanism]
"I do not, therefore, need any penetrating acuteness to see what I have to do in order that my volition be morally good. Inexperienced in the course of the world, incapable of being prepared for whatever might come to pass in it, I ask myself only: can you also will that your maxim become a universal law?"
--Immanuel Kant

btw, if you want to know how the author defines each of these attributes, look here

Fits.  Only thing is that I got rated under Divine Command when given a tie breaker, but I didn't like the wording of the Kantianism question.  I would personally rate that one higher of the two, so I threw both quotes in.

The author sums up Kantianism as rationalism, and I am first and foremost a rationalist.  My religious views extend from that; I believe that scientific (rational) process can be applied to religious views just as well as any other "soft science".  Materials can be studied, theories proposed, and evidence gathered to support or denounce it.  My feeling is that there is enough evidence to support Christianity, and with that comes a requirement to follow it.  If evidence changes, so will my beliefs.  I've been an athiest before, and can be again.  Existentialism is just another extention of rationalism, since it's just putting responsibility on the one with the power to choose.  Irregardless of God, if I am a rational creature who can decide my fate, I can direct my purpose.  If God exists it may be that he will interfere, but he is not the puppet master.  If God exists and I wind up in Hell, it would be because of my choices.  Lastly, just as existentialism is an extention of rationalism, so justice is here an extention of divine command.  One follows the other.

It's in that same vein that I have greater respect for athiests who have given considerable thought as to why they feel as they do than I do Christians who define their beliefs spiritually.  For many of my friends or others whom I've met who are Christian, it takes almost no time to shread the foundation of their beliefs rationally.  Not that it matters, since their retort is often something like "well, that's just what I believe". 

Also, unsurprising that so many people here are self-serving.  IMO, everyone who rated high on either strong egoism or heidonism should be forbidden from being able to bitch about "money grubbing publishers" or such here ever again.  But that's just the rational me hating hypocracy and stupid statements.

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Reply #55 on: June 24, 2005, 08:59:01 AM

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Damnit Sky, I had the highest Hedonism score up till now. I guess I need to go out and fufill myself some more...
I was a professional hedonist, though. Rock guitar/bass player.

I really dug RG's Ethical Hedonism, that's pretty much my personal viewpoint, along with Libertarianism, because I respect other's right to live by their own viewpoints, so long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's rights. I wish everyone were Libertarian, because we all have different world views. The important thing is respecting other's views and living ethically.

Ignorance and propaganda ensure this will never be the case.
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Reply #56 on: June 24, 2005, 09:07:15 AM

Love me some online quiz taking..

Existentialism
 85%
Justice (Fairness)
 75%
Hedonism
 70%
Nihilism
 50%
Kantianism
 45%
Strong Egoism
 40%
Utilitarianism
 35%
Apathy
 20%
Divine Command
 5%

Fairly standerd fair, top 3 match the majority of the non divine folks, not sure where I got 5% from on that catagory.  The apathy score is too hard to boost, or I answered the questions poorly.  Its harder to take something like this without the verbal choices strongly disagree, disagree, unsure, agree, strongly disagree.

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Reply #57 on: June 24, 2005, 09:14:25 AM

Your life is guided by the concept of Existentialism: You choose the meaning and purpose of your life.

“Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does.”
“It is up to you to give [life] a meaning.”
--Jean-Paul Sartre

“It is man's natural sickness to believe that he possesses the Truth.”
--Blaise Pascal

70% Existentialism
65% Hedonism
55% Justice (Fairness)
50% Utilitarianism
40% Apathy
30% Kantianism
30% Nihilism
25% Strong Egoism
10% Divine Command

Yeah.. yeah.. whatever.   evil

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Reply #58 on: June 24, 2005, 10:08:37 AM

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You scored as Hedonism.     



Your life is guided by the principles of Hedonism: You believe that pleasure is a great, or the greatest, good; and you try to enjoy life’s pleasures as much as you can.

“Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!”

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Hedonism   
   95%
Justice (Fairness)   
   75%
Existentialism   
   65%
Utilitarianism   
   50%
Kantianism   
   45%
Strong Egoism   
   45%
Apathy   
   25%
Nihilism   
   15%
Divine Command   
   5%

Not at all surprised. I can't believe I got 5% in Divine Command.

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Reply #59 on: June 24, 2005, 10:35:36 AM

There's hope for you yet! I've alerted the evangelicals of your 5%.

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Reply #60 on: June 24, 2005, 10:51:52 AM

I got 5% Divine Command, too, but I think that's because I think that religion is good for some people. I just don't happen to one of them. Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I'm a rabid blasphemer. Or, maybe I got the 5% because of my undying devotion to SATAN!  evil

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Reply #61 on: June 24, 2005, 10:52:54 AM

I am thinking it was a misclick =)

Actually, I didn't totally disagree with the 'living according to God's laws' statement- I interpreted it as living by the Golden Rule, which makes sense to me. If they are talking about sharia or other shit like that, than I am driving the Disagreement Bandwagon and making all the stops.

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Reply #62 on: June 24, 2005, 10:55:54 AM

I got 5% Divine Command, too, but I think that's because I think that religion is good for some people. I just don't happen to one of them. Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I'm a rabid blasphemer. Or, maybe I got the 5% because of my undying devotion to SATAN!  evil

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Reply #63 on: June 24, 2005, 11:04:04 AM

Fits.  Only thing is that I got rated under Divine Command when given a tie breaker, but I didn't like the wording of the Kantianism question.  I would personally rate that one higher of the two, so I threw both quotes in.

The author sums up Kantianism as rationalism, and I am first and foremost a rationalist. 

I missed where he summed-up Kantianism as rationalism... because that would be rationalism then, yes?  Rule of reason doens't nececcarily mean rule of rationality, after all. Yeah, semantics, but it's Philosophy, it's all about the semantics.

Part of what struck me when I looked-up and read the Kantaism summation on wiki was that Kantists believe there is no way to prove or disprove the exsistence of a divine spiritual being.  Rings true for me, but considering your whole paragraph about there being enough 'soft science' to prove the exsistence of one sticks you firmly in Divine Command, I'd think.  Your desire to have something more than a 'because God says so' rational behind your spiritual believes explains the strong Kantist leaning, but ultimatly you have a firm and unshakable belief in a divinity and his morality.

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Reply #64 on: June 24, 2005, 11:06:17 AM


Actually, I didn't totally disagree with the 'living according to God's laws' statement- I interpreted it as living by the Golden Rule, which makes sense to me.

Me too. Also the eye-for-an-eye thing, while being very Old Testament, is something I wholly agree with. Forgiveness is for pussies.  wink

The Golden Rule is my general life guide. Really, if we all followed this one, we COULD all just get along.

Speaking of la mano cornuda, I saw somewhere an animated emoticon of the rocking out-devil horns smiley. We should have that. Can we have that, Shockeye? or is it a Nice Thing (because we all know we can't have those)?

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Reply #65 on: June 24, 2005, 11:09:22 AM

You'd have to find the smiley.
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Reply #66 on: June 24, 2005, 11:30:24 AM

I call this one the "Free Bird"

Oh, here's one.   But this isn't the one I saw before. Oh, well.

There are more here.

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Reply #67 on: June 24, 2005, 11:35:51 AM

No on free bird.

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Reply #68 on: June 24, 2005, 11:42:30 AM

Edit: Also, my scores are eerily accurate as anyone who knows me would confirm.

I deny these accusations as I know Eric in that "Real Life" thing.

Hedonism   65%

Justice (Fairness)   60%

Utilitarianism   55%

Existentialism   50%

Kantianism   50%

Strong Egoism   35%

Apathy      15%

Divine Command   5%

Nihilism   5%

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Reply #69 on: June 24, 2005, 11:44:22 AM

Sweeeeeet. Thanks, Shockeye.

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