The Beginning of Something Good (Batman thread)

[schild]

Ok. I vote for Paul Bettany too.

[Riggswolfe]

The more I think about it the more I like that Crispin Glover suggestion. He's weird and menacing at the same time which I think would be perfect for the joker.

The big problem with the joker is if the actor tries to ham it up. That won't work in these movies.

[MaceVanHoffen]

I may be a dickhead, but at least I don't have a man-crush on Johnny Depp.

Any actor who can carry a movie based on a themepark ride can absolutely play the Joker.



Oh and, Batman Begins is the Best.  Superhero.  Movie.  Ever.

[schild]

Oh and, Batman Begins is the Best.  Superhero.  Movie.  Ever.

Go back and watch TMNT again.  :-D Batman Begins is definately the second best though.

[angry.bob]

Crispin Glover would be a perfect joker, Johnny Depp would be a very close second. Nicholson was a shitty hamfisted Joker and he sucked. He has sucked in every role he has had. He must have swallowed a gallon of devil cum to have had such a long, successful career playing the exact same fucking character in everything he's been in except TOE. Fucking hack.

[Strazos]

Blasphemy!!


And when the fuck did Katie drive the Batmobile? I know she was in it, and Gordon drove it at one point, but...

And why should there be a sequel to a prequel? We already have the "sequel" in the form of the first Batman movie.

[schild]

Katie didn't drive the batmobile.

[Pococurante]

Maybe Mark Hammil. No, I'm not kidding.

inspired.  He has been very good in the animation series.

He's gotten incredible reviews for several decades now with his stage roles.  Apparently the Great White Way sees past the pop culture typecasting from twenty years ago.  Probably not as many Star Wars geeks go to the theatres.  Frankly it's Corvette Summer that marked him in my brain for life - youthful indiscretions FTW.  I thought he was cast well in Big Red One but then he was across from Lee Marvin which helped in no small way.  Which reminds me, I need to pick up the two disc extended version of BRO.

[Murgos]

"Big Red One" has got to be one of the best nicknames for a military unit ever...

[Bunk]

Maybe Mark Hammil. No, I'm not kidding.

inspired.  He has been very good in the animation series.

He's gotten incredible reviews for several decades now with his stage roles.  Apparently the Great White Way sees past the pop culture typecasting from twenty years ago.  Probably not as many Star Wars geeks go to the theatres.  Frankly it's Corvette Summer that marked him in my brain for life - youthful indiscretions FTW.  I thought he was cast well in Big Red One but then he was across from Lee Marvin which helped in no small way.  Which reminds me, I need to pick up the two disc extended version of BRO.

I actually have a Hammil movie in my dvd collection (non Lucas) that he was pretty good in, playing a villain. Its a low budget sci-fi flick called Slipstream. I actually recomend it to people who can see past low budget and enjoy an interesting sci-fi story.

[HaemishM]

Crispin Glover could do a very good Joker, I agree. Hell, Depp could do a fantastic Joker, but I'd see him in the role as stuntcasting. It would definitely have to be someone who could BURY the Nicholson performance. And I loved the Nicholson performance, I thought it helped a great deal in making that movie. BUT... it kind of pigeonholed the villains in the sequels into being whacked out. I mean, Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face was really nothing more than Nicholoson's Joker, as was Carrey's Riddler. I still liked that one, though I'm not really sure why.

[stray]

Glover or Liotta it is then. The only guys (well known, at least) who could play that part realistically, not ham it up, and be good enough to make people forget about Jack. Either that, or Nick Nolte on crack. I'd pay to see that too.

[Strazos]

Gary Busey?

[schild]

Gary Busey?

No, he shouldn't be let out of his house, let alone onto a movie set. Same goes for Nick Nolte.

[stray]

You know who looks like the Joker though? Adrien Brody.

I just haven't seen enough of him to think he could play the part.

[WindupAtheist]

How about in the sequel he fights Gary Busey?  I don't mean Gary Busey portraying the Joker, I just mean Batman versus a drunken cocaine-addled Gary Busey.

[ahoythematey]

You mean there's another kind of Gary Busey?

[stray]

You mean there's another kind of Gary Busey?

Yes, these days he's drunk with the Holy Spirit.

[AOFanboi]

Go back and watch TMNT again.

Much like the Matrix, my enjoyment of the first TMNT (which stuck very close to the Eastman and Laird comics) was ruined by the sequel, especially the Vanilla Ice scenes. Never got around to watch that time-travelling third one. Oh, and that TMHT travesty also ruined it.

[Shockeye]

You mean there's another kind of Gary Busey?

"I'm With Busey" on Comedy Central a couple years back was hilarious. I wouldn't mind seeing some re-runs of that.

[Johny Cee]

Glover or Liotta it is then. The only guys (well known, at least) who could play that part realistically, not ham it up, and be good enough to make people forget about Jack. Either that, or Nick Nolte on crack. I'd pay to see that too.

For some reason, when I saw this I kept thinking Danny Glover instead of Crispin Glover...

[HaemishM]

Danny Glover's too old for this shit.

[WindupAtheist]

The third TMNT movie?  Let me tell you all you need to know:  In ancient Japan, someone grabs the magical time-travel doohickey and starts it up.  Cut to the modern world, where the doohickey there activates in response.  One of the turtles exclaims "Someone must be trying to use it in the past!"

Even at the time, my brain almost fried at the stupidity.

[Riggswolfe]

AICN has a poll up about who should be the next Joker. Interestingly when I voted Crispin Glover was winning, here were the choices:

Mark Hamill
 Lachy Hulme
 Crispin Glover
 Robin Williams
 Adam Sandler
David Cronenberg
Adrien Brody
Andrew Koenig
Tim Roth
Jack Nicholson

See the list I think in addition to Glover that Tim Roth and David Cronenberg would be interesting. Cronenberg would bring a creepiness to it that would be interesting. i'm thinking of his psychologist from Nightbreed when I say this.

[Shockeye]

Adam Sandler? ADAM SANDLER?!

I quit.

[HaemishM]

Robin Williams
Adam Sandler

Someone needs to die.

[Bunk]

Jack Nicholson:

Batman vs. the Joker's geriatric Grandpa!

[Shockeye]

Crispin Glover   5787   28.6%   
 
Mark Hamill   4703   23.3%   
 
Adrien Brody   3234   16.0%   
 
Tim Roth   2894   14.3%   
   
Jack Nicholson   1765   8.7%   
   
Robin Williams   858   4.2%   
   
Lachy Hulme   303   1.5%   

Adam Sandler   244   1.2%   

David Cronenberg   232   1.1%   

Andrew Koenig   193   1.0%

[stray]

All I know is that I want to see "mass murdering psycho" stressed more than the "wacky clown" aspect. That, at the very least, means no comedians. Judging by Scarecrow though, I'm sure Nolan will do whatever's right.

[Riggswolfe]

All I know is that I want to see "mass murdering psycho" stressed more than the "wacky clown" aspect. That, at the very least, means no comedians. Judging by Scarecrow though, I'm sure Nolan will do whatever's right.

See, I can Crispin Glover or Cronenberg either one could do that, which is why I like the thought of them doing the Joker. Cronenberg would be an old Joker, but it would be kind of neat.

Also, I am hoping since he was in Arkham, and using the playing card, that if we see his origin it'll be a flashback scene. I'd rather just see a movie about Batman foiling him. Not the origin of the villian.

[Llava]

Sandler....

ugh.

Okay, people THIS is the guy we're talking about:


Not this:



I know the difference is a subtle one, but I think it's one that would be important in a full length film.  Maybe that's just my opinion.

Christ.

I can't believe some people even voted for him.

[WayAbvPar]

How about in the sequel he fights Gary Busey?  I don't mean Gary Busey portraying the Joker, I just mean Batman versus a drunken cocaine-addled Gary Busey.

I am still giggling. Kudos.

[Riggswolfe]

Just read on AICN that Sean Penn is  being courted for the Joker. If nothing else it gives us an idea of what kind of performance they are going for, assuming they are thinking of intense Penn and not Fast Times Penn

[jpark]

Just read on AICN that Sean Penn is  being courted for the Joker. If nothing else it gives us an idea of what kind of performance they are going for, assuming they are thinking of intense Penn and not Fast Times Penn

I could see that.  Penn is in his mature performances - Mystic River etc. - could add to the dark intensity established in the film.

[stray]

Penn can do anything.

edit: For some reason though, I don't like the idea. Same with Depp.

I doubt either one of them would even take the part though...