Gunzonline.

[Yegolev]

Good luck getting Rez to run on an Xbox.

[schild]

Ho ho ho, it's running on my psTWO now. And it's....fantastic. My thumbs hurt. A lot.

[Hoax]

Shockeye, I consider myself a fairly primetime gamer (9-5pst work schedual will do that to ya) and I have had no trouble getting in after a little bit of server spammage (less then 10min).  Sure thats not ideal but I'd hardly call it gamebreaking.  Besides its not like its a huge d/l I might have mentioned that if somebody was installing something the size of WoW or FFXI (goddamn 7 cd's that was so rediculous).

[Trippy]

The update last night was to add another International server. That should make it easier to get on, at least for a short while (until that one fills up as well).

[HaemishM]

I managed to get in for a few minutes last night, but I had to hammer the server to do so. I got to Level 2 as a 2-gun priest. It reminds me of HL1 graphics, but with some interesting gameplay additions such as the Hong Kong bullet ballet moves. I have to try to buy some new gear (or can I not do that til I hit level 5?).

[Hoax]

First.

Re-roll as a Gun-Knight or whatever gives you dual SMG, pistols suck till you get to lvl7 and can upgrade to dual 8shots.

Your starting class at this time has no effect beyond initial gear so you might as well take the easy kill SMG's.


You can buy the lvl0 armor upgrades to feet, gloves on the cheap to get an extra 10AP.

At lvl5 you can start upgrading weapons.

[Viin]

After the game caused a hard lockup the first time I was able to login, I got in again and got my character to level 4 (from level 1). It's pretty fun, with some minor problems (logging in being the major problem). The network code could certainly use some help. Heh, I like how I can (very very occasionally) get a HEAD SHOT using my dual SMGs from half a mile away. Woo!

The sword stuff is fun, though I'm hoping they add more moves or something.

as far as buying crap goes, I think you can buy stuff at anytime (I just bought a new shirt) but you have to have enough bounty for it. The next level up from your newbie gear costs 100 or 200 bounty, so it might take you a bit to get that much - I could only just now afford a new shirt (and nothing else).

Someone else mentioned being able to sell their newbie gear but I can't seem to sell it.. maybe I have to drag it to the item list?

[Der Helm]

For selling items, you need to go to the "equip" screen, drag the items from the slots to the right side, then you can click on store, and sell the little sucker

[Trippy]

Re-roll as a Gun-Knight or whatever gives you dual SMG, pistols suck till you get to lvl7 and can upgrade to dual 8shots.

You definitely want to start out with the Travia Gun Fighter with the dual Renards (Renard x2 on the equipment display) unless you already know how to play and want to humiliate the newbies.

[Trippy]

Grrr server 1 went down and server 2 games are giving me crappy pings for some reason and my BF2 demo is still downloading...

[Hoax]

I was on server 1 just now for like 20min after about a 5-10 sever hammer session.  But it looks like both just went down about 3min ago, fyi.

Finally got to play some got the lvl9 dual pistol upgrade (6shot) [I r l33t @ fps speak]omfg I now pwnalize SMG whores left and right[/end] I won a round20 DM on mansion with only 6 deaths.

[Der Helm]

I tried to add some of you to my friends list, but I get keep getting "not found" errors. You are playing under your board names, are you ? Or does it only work while the target is online ?

Just in case you are wondering, according to my information, the command is

/friend add nickname

Oh, and I play as "Der_Helm"

[Viin]

I'm playing as Viin, though I'll probably be playing BF2 more than Gunz..

[Hoax]

I play as "Hoax" so it should work assuming you can add people who are offline.

[Ookii]

Say hi if you run across Littlegirl, currently level 14.

I tell you, I tried the revolvers and they blew, so I went back to those level 13 dual SMGs, but lately I feel like they aren't cutting it as well.  I'm thinking of hitting up that level 15 rifle, because all the rifle carrying guys seem to do extremely well.  Any good experiences with the rifle vs the SMG?

If anyone cares that is.

[Shockeye]

I can never seem to log in. I'm going back to Battlefield 2.

[Hoax]

@Ookii:  Make sure you never ever buy the pistols with decent sized clips, they suck hard.  Here are my experiences with various weapons.

Dual pistols:
-bigger clips = suck never ever ever buy these
-6 round clips = really good dmg, definately usable in TDM or DM although you will suffer in DM due to spending so much time reloading also you must be willing to use melee fairly often as a finisher.

Dual SMG:
-One of the best DM weapons, in TDM they become less effective as most SMGers get all their kills killing people who are fighting others and moving in a straight line.  Some people pull it off though its a viable choice for sure.

Rifle:
-Some people swear by it but I find them to be uncommon, really looses allot of effectiveness when not on large maps like the Arena map or the Beach one.  Keeps accuracy very well, but I rarely see people firing it on the move.  No personal experience with this one.  I would guess its a cross between pistol and SMG.

Shotgun:
-Almost all "pro" players will have a shotty equipped.  One of the more effective high level tactics involves using melee to just dash all over the place making you very very hard to hit then moving in close, switching to shotgun and firing off a round or two (pref while opponent is reloading) then back to melee dodge mode.  Its the best backup weapon and can hold its own in DM but you'll feel kind of like a bitch as you will be mostly going for Kill Steals.

Machine Gun:
-Not really worth it imo, you might as well get the rocket launcher as it scares people more and throws them around.

Rocket Launcher:
-Pretty much gaurenteed to rack up kills in DM on Prison or Garden maps, not really as scary as it seems and I doubt its very effective at all in TDM.

I'm guessing you already know most of this, but others might not.  I'm sure you've figured the 3 melee choices out by now.


Oh and if anybody sees people in the clan DemiGods those are all people I know, in fact if I can time things to be online w/ the guy who can invite I should have the tag myself.  We usually play Server2, Open Channel2 but are often in the 11+ channel if we can't get a good game on open.  I play off and on from 6:30pst on usually.

Oh and the friend command is:  /friend add <playername>

But it only works if they are online, once you friend somebody you can locate what channel game they are on if they are on the same server as you.

[Trippy]

Just hit 20 and finally upgraded my guns (was using n00b SMGs and level 5 rifle). Still think the rocket launcher is cheesy given the poor netcode but now at least I can "counter" dagger dashes 90+% of the time if I'm facing them so at least I rarely die from those knockdowns these days. It's too bad though that you still take damage if you counter the dagger dash unlike the sword uppercuts where you don't take any damage if you land on your feet.

I tell you, I tried the revolvers and they blew, so I went back to those level 13 dual SMGs, but lately I feel like they aren't cutting it as well.

The six-shooter revolvers are awesome if your aim is good. Can't match the shotties at close range but you can snipe with them so at the moment I like them better overall.

I'm thinking of hitting up that level 15 rifle, because all the rifle carrying guys seem to do extremely well.  Any good experiences with the rifle vs the SMG?

You might want to wait for the level 18 rifle if you want to switch to those. The rifles that have a longer delay than the SMGs feel, well, slower while the level 18 rifle has a shorter delay than the roughly comparable SMGs and fires even faster than the delay would indicate. I'm constantly running out of ammo with that gun since it fires so fast.

[Trippy]

They added two more servers for a total of 4 now. You'll need to download a 38.5 MB patch to add support for those, a couple of new maps, and some misc. new items.

[Ookii]

Still think the rocket launcher is cheesy given the poor netcode but now at least I can "counter" dagger dashes 90+% of the time if I'm facing them so at least I rarely die from those knockdowns these days.

I think I have a 99% on dagger dashes and sword knockdowns, I mean just keep pressing jump and they can't knock you down (unless they come from behind and I don't see them).

When I first played Gunzonline, up to level 12 something, there was only twice I didn't come in first, and I was only playing with those level 0 SMGs.  I then decided to buy a shotgun, and from there my game totally went to shit, I don't know why, which is why I bought the revolvers and such thinking it was the guns, but it wasn't.  The culmination of this was the purchase of the level 15 rifle, which is invaluable, but I realized why I was sucking was the fact I wasn't jumping around like a n00b with SMGs out the whole time, so things are now improving.  I'm now getting 11k xp a round again, which makes things a lot better, and I'm looking foward to purchasing the level 18 rifle, for I'm sure I'll do even better (I love sniping people).

Although to be great at this game it seems as if you need to be somewhat hyperactive as standing around usually equals death, and a lot of the time I find myself being too lazy keep jumping around like an idiot.

Oh and with the revolvers, I would hit people 5 or 6 times and then wouldn't die, it wasn't the fact that I couldn't aim, it was the fact that people wouldn't die! (This is with the 40 damage dualies)

[HaemishM]

Finally played it. /meh. Some interesting bits in there, but not enough to keep me interested.

[Hoax]

I got to 18 and bought the new duals and the lvl15 shotty, then I went to the free channel for some ego boosting.  I could literally go on 10-12 kill runs, basically running myself out of all ammo between each death.  That was with several other 18+ in the game on Town.  It was good times.  But the lag got pretty bad late last night so I haven't messed around much with my new toys.

The magnums are great as long as your fighting people that ping 125 or less, you are super fucked if any of your shots are not registering considering you have to reload after 6.

[Ookii]

Another question about the game is why the updates are even really needed, I mean this game has been out a couple years in Korea right, you think they would just port it over with a language change.  It seems like they keeping adding in things like it is truly a beta, before we didn't even have background art for login screens, and some of the clothing was broken, is this how it is in Korea as well?

Level 17 now, almost to 18, and I have 5200 bounty, I finally got my skill back by jumping around with SMGs all the time (and switching to the rifle to finish someone off, other than that I only use the rifle now to snipe).  I'm definantly buying the level 18 rifle, you 20ish people think I should save up for all the 20 level goodies, or blow it on something right now (because presumably I'll have 7k in bounty at least going from 18 to 20).

[Hoax]

Going 18 to 20 I think I've made about 7k-10k I'm not really sure though as I did buy a few things during that time span.

The 18 rifle is quite popular and can be very devestating against SMG people, if you have it out and somebody is jumping straight towards you they will die as the rifle will stop their momentum in mid-air.

[Trippy]

Level 17 now, almost to 18, and I have 5200 bounty, I finally got my skill back by jumping around with SMGs all the time (and switching to the rifle to finish someone off, other than that I only use the rifle now to snipe).  I'm definantly buying the level 18 rifle, you 20ish people think I should save up for all the 20 level goodies, or blow it on something right now (because presumably I'll have 7k in bounty at least going from 18 to 20).

At level 20 you'll be able to upgrade all your armor if you want. However you also may run into weight issues at this point if you haven't already. Dual SMGs + Assault Rifle is one of the heavier weapon combos so if you want to upgrade most of your armor you may have to switch weapon configs so you should plan on that expense as well.

[Trippy]

Well the god mode hackers are starting to show up in the game now, having run across one last night and a different one tonight. Now of course anytime anybody does well everybody cries "hacker" and initiates a kick vote. Oh well it was fun while it lasted but between that, the crappy netcode and general lagginess, and the pitiful experience I'm getting in gladiator games now that I'm out of my teens probably means I won't be playing as much anymore.

[Ookii]

Last night I think I ran into about 5, but if you read the forums apparently Maiet knows about them and is fixing the problem, and once they do they will ban all the people engaging in such shenanigans.  Apparently this isn't a problem at all in Korea, we naughty americans like exploiting games or something, so Maiet is pissed at all the international players.

They also need to fix the lag, it's starting to get notsofun.

[Merusk]

Last night I think I ran into about 5, but if you read the forums apparently Maiet knows about them and is fixing the problem, and once they do they will ban all the people engaging in such shenanigans.  Apparently this isn't a problem at all in Korea, we naughty americans like exploiting games or something, so Maiet is pissed at all the international players.

They also need to fix the lag, it's starting to get notsofun.

There were similar statements from the S-E devsis when FFXI came to the US.   US gamers are cancers to their game communities. Is that a surprise to anyone?

Also, I got in to this game ONCE in the two weeks I had it on my machine.  That one time I entered a few different fights labeled 'for noobs' or 'level 1-5 ONLY' and proceeded to get ganked every time I spawned by level 12-16s with no XP accumulation on my part.  I gave it a good two and a half hours and five maps but still didn't hit level 2.   The uninstall was quick and painless.

[Ookii]

Also, I got in to this game ONCE in the two weeks I had it on my machine.  That one time I entered a few different fights labeled 'for noobs' or 'level 1-5 ONLY' and proceeded to get ganked every time I spawned by level 12-16s with no XP accumulation on my part.  I gave it a good two and a half hours and five maps but still didn't hit level 2.   The uninstall was quick and painless.

Not that I want to actually defend the game, I mean it is some stupid 3d shooter in which you have to jump around like and idiot to be good, but it's not like that anymore.  I assume you played when they had the one server, well now they have 4, so getting on isn't difficult at all.

You were also playing in the free channel (all levels), you should of just switched to the begginer channel, that way you wouldn't of been "ganked" so often, and might of been able to lay the "smackdown" on the other "noobs".

[Hoax]

I'm at level 24 now, and here are some thoughts:

-its super easy to get in if the servers are up which has been most of the time.  Unfortunately the lag does blow hard fairly often.  If only I could trust the community to start creating games that said where the host was located geographically or if the koreans could let me ping a room before I joined it'd be no real problems.

-netcode does suck, once somebody breaks 150ping you will have a hard time using non smg/rifle against them as you can't afford to have shots not register

-cheaters have started pop'ing up, they are easy to spot and not hard to avoid.  They use packet spam to level themselves, and the more adapt at being losers can use rocket launchers that fire everywhere, take no damage, attack super fast, fly ect.  The devs have indeed posted that they are aware and pissed that this is such a problem and will fix it and ban people soon TM.

-This is unfortunate as it puts off things like elemental swords, better looking and more clothing, oh and more weapon types (the first one is actually something that should be comming to internation soon TM.)

-Once you break 21 it becomes a whole different game, everyone is constantly moving.  I went to the free channel despite the huge xp loss if I die to lower lvl's and went 30-7 but only gained 3k xp, it was so strange to be shooting at all these immobile targets.  I've had some fun but I do play it less but I'll keep it installed and check the gunz forum every once in awhile to try out new stuff they add.

Just in case anyone wants some lvl-up recommendations:
start w/ dual SMG, add frag grenades (lvl10) followed by whatever armor you can afford.  You want to use the best available dual SMG with whatever backup suits you best, at lvl18 buy the rifle its the best gun available till the mid 20's by far of all ranged types.  The shotgun at lvl10 is a great buy.

Basically these are guidelines assuming you will be playing lots of DM mostly on mansion (by far the most played map) with some prison thrown in.  The quickest lvl'ing and good practice is gladiator on battlearena map untill you get to lvl10 and people start upgrading their armor.