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Shockeye
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on: May 20, 2005, 10:00:22 AM

Quote from: Reuters
Gay Israeli artists seek Arabs to fall in love with
Fri May 20, 2005 4:58 PM BST

By Claudia Parsons

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Two gay Israeli men have installed a huge double bed in a New York art gallery and are inviting Arab men to become their "lover" as part of an exhibition called "Sleeping with the Enemy."

But the artists who like to be known simply as Gil and Moti talk about the project in romantic terms, saying it's about "falling in love" rather than sex. Gil said visitors should not come to the show expecting to see pornography.

"The bed is there for us to live in. Artistically there are three pillows to symbolise unity of three people which goes along with the whole concept of make love not war," he said.

"We try to actually open up a dialogue and debate which is about more important issues than just sexual matters and if there's sex, OK, but it's not something we're interested in discussing," Gil said.

The sales pitch for the show in which the two live and work in the gallery surrounded by their art reads: "Israeli artists Gil and Moti are gay, married and in love. For 5 weeks, they court an Arab lover."

Since late 2002 they have made contact online with as many as 300 Arab men from across the Middle East. They typically send a message through a dating site asking if they can paint a picture from the man's photo and explaining who they are.

They then scan and e-mail the painting as a means of "seduction" and hopefully start a dialogue and meet, Gil said.

The gallery called Jack the Pelican, in Brooklyn, is displaying over 100 of the watercolours, priced at $700-$900, along with some transcripts of e-mail exchanges, photos and oil paintings and the bed.

"We felt frustrated with the political situation in the Middle East," said Gil. "As Israelis, we grew up with Arabs but we were encouraged by the education system to hate and abuse them so we thought we must do something about it."

"So we decided to fall in love with one of them."

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Moti is coy when asked whether the bed might actually be put to use if they meet an Arab man they like.

"We want people to think about sex when they enter the show because we have a bed in the front and it's clear that we are living here, but we're not interested in showing that," he said, appearing a little bashful for a man standing in front of paintings of naked men in graphic sexual positions.

Gil said they had not invited anybody to join them yet but one local Arab man had invited them to his home.

The exhibit includes video and pictures of a Lebanese man called Oliver who lived with them for nearly a year in the Netherlands. One photograph shows the three men standing naked and covered in mud in a wood, holding hands.

"We actually fell in love, with the three of us," Gil said. "He saw us as one person because we're together 24 hours a day, I think it's no longer clear how individual we are."

"He said he loved not just us but the concept. But at some point it got complicated," Gil said, explaining that Oliver found the pressure of living with performance artists who consider their life a constant show too difficult, so he left.

Aged 37 and 33, Gil and Moti, who met 11 years ago at art school in Israel, dress alike, on this occasion in yellow tee-shirts embroidered by Gil's mother with flowers and their names in Arabic, and both wear their hair gelled into spikes.
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Reply #1 on: May 20, 2005, 12:19:08 PM

Why do I see this show ending with the scream, "JIHAD!"

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Reply #2 on: May 20, 2005, 12:59:06 PM

Why do I see this show ending with the scream, "JIHAD!"

I look forward to it. I don't mind a little Jihad every once in a while.

That's not to say anything against homosexuals either. I just don't like artists who've got nothing to offer except sex.
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Reply #3 on: May 20, 2005, 01:28:13 PM

Or the "controversy == art" types

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Reply #4 on: May 20, 2005, 01:36:59 PM

Rage Against the Machine comes to mind.

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Reply #5 on: May 20, 2005, 04:08:26 PM

That's not to say anything against homosexuals either. I just don't like artists who've got nothing to offer except sex.

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Reply #6 on: May 20, 2005, 09:07:17 PM

Rage Against the Machine comes to mind.

 I couldn't stand Rage against the Machine simply because of Zach. If I could strip his voice out of the songs, thatd be awesome. They're so much better off now that dipshit is off sulking in a corner about how capitalism kicked his ass.

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Reply #7 on: May 21, 2005, 01:02:47 AM

My beef with them is that they try too hard to be "controversial"; They do it, just for the sake of it, to appeal to a certain demographic that feels "oppressed."

it's a joke really; they're pretty damn mainstream.

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